The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Escapegoat Nov 25, 2016 @ 9:46am
Are Skyrim Dragons Gay?
Not that there's anything wrong with that, they all seem to have a male voice, so it seems like they're all male. Alduin was supposedly the first dragon created by Akatosh, and all the "descendent" dragons were lesser in some way. How are there even descendents exactly? I don't see Alduin with a wife. So what did they do? Adopt a dragon? From where?
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Qnomei Nov 25, 2016 @ 10:00am 
They were all born from the god Akatosh, and they don't reproduce.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons
They are immortal, but can only be killed permanently by the Dragonborn or other dragons.
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BarbarianHeart Nov 25, 2016 @ 10:00am 
Dragons are asexual and they can't reproduce by convential means. They are similar to the daedra in this respect. They are ageless and immortal, though they can obviously be killed by violence. They are all said to be the children of Akatosh, which means he could be the god who created them in the first place. Alduin is more their "father" because he leads them, than by biology.
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Shellbie Nov 25, 2016 @ 10:01am 
Akatosh->Dragons
God->Angels->Demons->Humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvgSCWiOhE8
Jirki88 Nov 25, 2016 @ 10:16am 
The in-game book There Be Dragons by Torhal Bjorik quotes information gained by the College through "questioning" of Daedra, saying about dragons: "Eternal, immortal, unchanging, and unyielding. They are not born or hatched. They do not mate or breed."

The book The Alduin/Akatosh Dichotomy by Alexandre Simon quotes ancient Nord Chiefs saying that Akatosh and Alduin is different. Alduin himself says, when battled at the Throat of the World, the following: "Meyz mul, Dovahkiin. You have become strong. But I am Al-du-in, Firstborn of Akatosh!" (Al-du-in; Destroyer-Devour-Master).

The fact that Alduin says "Firstborn" indicates that there came others after him. Most likely, they were all created by Akatosh, probably right after he himself were created. Alduin's name might indicate he was created as an opposite of Akatosh.

It is however interesting to note that Alduin usually is referred to "he" in-game, for example during the ancient nords cutscene. By all accounts, however, dragons are genderless. The reason for them using "he" would, assumably, be due to the Nord society by default being patriarchal.
Stormborn Nov 25, 2016 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by Jirki88:
The in-game book There Be Dragons by Torhal Bjorik quotes information gained by the College through "questioning" of Daedra, saying about dragons: "Eternal, immortal, unchanging, and unyielding. They are not born or hatched. They do not mate or breed."

The book The Alduin/Akatosh Dichotomy by Alexandre Simon quotes ancient Nord Chiefs saying that Akatosh and Alduin is different. Alduin himself says, when battled at the Throat of the World, the following: "Meyz mul, Dovahkiin. You have become strong. But I am Al-du-in, Firstborn of Akatosh!" (Al-du-in; Destroyer-Devour-Master).

The fact that Alduin says "Firstborn" indicates that there came others after him. Most likely, they were all created by Akatosh, probably right after he himself were created. Alduin's name might indicate he was created as an opposite of Akatosh.

It is however interesting to note that Alduin usually is referred to "he" in-game, for example during the ancient nords cutscene. By all accounts, however, dragons are genderless. The reason for them using "he" would, assumably, be due to the Nord society by default being patriarchal.

Your comment was very informative and well written, and I appreciate the insight you provided.
Cheers.
Last edited by Stormborn; Nov 25, 2016 @ 10:40am
EDIT: sorry, wrong thread lol
Last edited by 𝕊𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄-𝕂𝔸𝕋; Nov 25, 2016 @ 11:27am
Escapegoat Nov 25, 2016 @ 11:36am 
If they're asexual how come all the Daedra wear some kind of cloth to cover their "nether region"? And how do the other Deadra somehow have boobs?
Guess that's another thing to change for ES 6: make immortal creatures more unique.
Last edited by Escapegoat; Nov 25, 2016 @ 11:36am
Jirki88 Nov 25, 2016 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by Escapegoat:
If they're asexual how come all the Daedra wear some kind of cloth to cover their "nether region"? And how do the other Deadra somehow have boobs?
Guess that's another thing to change for ES 6: make immortal creatures more unique.

Because the Daedra manifest in the physical world mainly for interaction with men and mer; in the case of the Daedric Princes, they can appear as male (Sheogorath) or female (Azura) or something else (Hermaeus Mora for example), all depending on what the Prince themselves want. They are however genderless and can appear in any which way - most likely their appearance is tied to the cultural perception of them (Azura as the protective mother, Sheogorath as the erratic old man, etc).

For lesser Daedra, that is, mainly Dremoras, they've got armour equipped, and even if they don't have any genitalia, it's a bad idea to leave that region of the body unprotected. All Dremoras wear heavy armour, and even their robes offer heavy protection. There is nothing explicitly stated about lesser Daedra genders, but it'd probably be safe to assume they have none, like their greater masters. They are however a humanoid lifeform, and it's entirely possible that they take on specific characteristics from men or mer for some reason or other.
Clintdeadslayer Nov 25, 2016 @ 11:54am 
Asexual, poor dragons, no wonder they are so grumpy.
Originally posted by Escapegoat:
If they're asexual how come all the Daedra wear some kind of cloth to cover their "nether region"? And how do the other Deadra somehow have boobs?
Guess that's another thing to change for ES 6: make immortal creatures more unique.

Daedra can take on male or female personas at will.
Jirki88 Nov 25, 2016 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Jurassic King:
Originally posted by Escapegoat:
If they're asexual how come all the Daedra wear some kind of cloth to cover their "nether region"? And how do the other Deadra somehow have boobs?
Guess that's another thing to change for ES 6: make immortal creatures more unique.

Daedra can take on male or female personas at will.
Bit too sweeping statement, I think. Greater Daedra, e.g. the Daedric Princes, can. Whether Lesser Daedra, e.g. Dremoras and the like, actually can... that's a lot more open.
MysticMalevolence Nov 25, 2016 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by Escapegoat:
If they're asexual how come all the Daedra wear some kind of cloth to cover their "nether region"? And how do the other Deadra somehow have boobs?
Guess that's another thing to change for ES 6: make immortal creatures more unique.
Thread is about dragons, not dremora.

Originally posted by Clintdeadslayer:
Asexual, poor dragons, no wonder they are so grumpy.
On the contrary, while the Dovahkiin may be distracted with such mortal desires the dragons continue to burn and sack villages at an efficient rate.
MysticMalevolence Nov 25, 2016 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by Toast:
It's true you don't see many dragon women. And in fact, they are so alike in voice and appearance, that they are often mistaken for dragon men. And this in turn has given rise to the belief that there are no dragon women, and that dragons just spring out of holes in the ground! Which is, of course, ridiculous.
I see what you did there.
Originally posted by Jirki88:
Originally posted by Jurassic King:

Daedra can take on male or female personas at will.
Bit too sweeping statement, I think. Greater Daedra, e.g. the Daedric Princes, can. Whether Lesser Daedra, e.g. Dremoras and the like, actually can... that's a lot more open.

That's what I meant, the princes. I usually associate "Daedra" with the princes and then Dremora with the lesser ones.
🌸Azuma🌸 Dec 13, 2022 @ 10:51am 
Okay this has got to be the funniest discussion I've ever found on steam wtf XD
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