Argonians are the worst race

[Magic Spazm]

Their only upside being breathing in water which is easy done by potion, enchant, and spell. Only reason they still around is because they are so easily enslaved.

[Omaeka]

Not sure what it matters, with the except or the Orc's berserk ability the racials are only slightly important early game and become less impactful the further you progress. Even on Legendary or with difficulty mods the racials are not very noticable. You pick the race you like or you pick Orc and zerk to win.

Imperious racial mod is well worth using though, balances the races quite well and gives pretty powerful lore friendly abilities that come with 'destiny' type quests to unlock them. NPCs get them too so it's fair game.

Although if we wish to argue semantics, all races are garbage except the Altmer who scale better than every other race in offensive magic AND melee. SetScale OP. DISCLAIMER: Does not include zerking Orc.

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by Netiger:

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

dunmer if you go vampire helps against fire though

and nord isnt bad either if you play with mods, forgot what the name of the mod is but EnaiSiaion has one where i think nords are a great race^^

Capping fire resist is way easier than capping Magic Resist, but I see your point.

true, but not if you start the game as a vampire via mods or by rushing to that specific quest ;)

[Magic Spazm]

Originally posted by AriekB:

without the Argonians you wouldn't know Hist Sap was addictive, almost as much so as Skooma, besides.... not everyone want's to be a human, elf or a furry....so scales give those people a choice...

Cut down the hist trees. Burn them to the ground. Hist trees were able to enslave garbage Argonians and can't be trusted around other races.

[MysticMalevolence]

Originally posted by Magic Spazm:

Originally posted by AriekB:

without the Argonians you wouldn't know Hist Sap was addictive, almost as much so as Skooma, besides.... not everyone want's to be a human, elf or a furry....so scales give those people a choice...

Cut down the hist trees. Burn them to the ground. Hist trees were able to enslave garbage Argonians and can't be trusted around other races.

They created the argonians, not simply enslaved them.
Is it enslavement when humans make robots to do work? Maybe so, but no enslaving was done, as they were created as slaves.

Besides, hist trees are the oldest things in Nirn; you're sadly mistaken if you think it would be so simple to cut them down and burn them. May I remind you that argonians are the only mortal race that can reach them.

[AriekB]

the best thing I can think of to compare the Hist to is the Trees on Pandora on the "Avatar" world. they are ancient and share a link, which the argonians have tapped into sharing memory/knowledge from generations, resulting in a "hive mind"

Quoted from Wiki:

Not much specific information is known about the Argonian religion. However some knowledge about these unique beliefs are known to non-Argonians. The most important thing to understand about their religion is the close bond between the odd Hist tree and the Argonians. The Hist is a unique type of tree that grows all around Black Marsh and is looked highly upon by the inhabitants. This tree, according to the Argonians, is intelligent and fully conscious. It produces a special sap that gives Argonians visions and enlightenment to their souls. In fact, Argonian hatchlings drink the sap of the Hist at birth and infancy. According to them, the sap of the hist tree, when drank, gives a hatchling its soul. When that Argonian dies, his soul travels back to its Hist tree and is stored until another hatchling drinks that Hist. Thus, the Hist is giving it a soul, and so the cycle repeats. The Hist tree can telepathically talk to the Argonian that has drank the sap.

[WickedRequiem]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121206203240.htm

[Shellbie]

Originally posted by Magic Spazm:

Their only upside being breathing in water which is easy done by potion, enchant, and spell. Only reason they still around is because they are so easily enslaved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYupLEVYSPo

[FireFox]

Troll: "OMG Bethesda how dare you make other races besides humans, humans are superior and bestest race evar!, REEEEEEEE!"

[AriekB]

Originally posted by FireFox:

Troll: "OMG Bethesda how dare you make other races besides humans, humans are superior and bestest race evar!, REEEEEEEE!"

WHAT ARE YOU, A RIEKLING? No I know your an Argonian. yeahhhh thats it your Argonian!!!

[AriekB]

Originally posted by WickedRequiem:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121206203240.htm

and that is why Humans go insane when they drink the Hist sap.... now you know, and knowing is half the battle!!

[JerzeyCJ]

fun fact: argonians kicked mehrune dagon's ass when he tried invading black marsh during the oblivion crisis. Every other region was having issues with oblivion gates and the dremora, except the hist and argonians.

[JerzeyCJ]

Originally posted by Magic Spazm:

Originally posted by AriekB:

without the Argonians you wouldn't know Hist Sap was addictive, almost as much so as Skooma, besides.... not everyone want's to be a human, elf or a furry....so scales give those people a choice...

Cut down the hist trees. Burn them to the ground. Hist trees were able to enslave garbage Argonians and can't be trusted around other races.

Do you want roided up mega argonians slaughtering your army and pushing into your land to continue the fight? Because that's how you get roided up mega argonians slaughtering your army and pushing into your land to continue the fight.


side note: nothing has been shown thus for that the hist actively prevent the argonians from leaving black marsh or that they interfere with their everyday lives. They only give them telepathic suggestions when the hist are actively in danger. And less enslavement, more symbiotic, they need each other.

[AriekB]

Originally posted by Katherine:

Originally posted by Magic Spazm:

Their only upside being breathing in water which is easy done by potion, enchant, and spell. Only reason they still around is because they are so easily enslaved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYupLEVYSPo

is it just me or does the lisp just make you think an argonian is narating this video?

[Shellbie]

Originally posted by AriekB:

Originally posted by Katherine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYupLEVYSPo

is it just me or does the lisp just make you think an argonian is narating this video?

Well, the poor soul who is narrating the video looks really devastated so yeah lol.

[Killerspinach]

Thye made up for this in Quake Champions. That lizard is op af.