Survival Mode or Frostfall

[Luar99]

is survival mode "good"? and vs Frostfall (with or without Ineed(Mod)) what are the cons and pros ?
And are creation club "add on" mods ? what i mean are they mods because they are more like micro transactions than mods. ask this because the ones making this "add on" are paided by bethesda like a normal bethesda worker so ? i don't want paid mods but idk if they are mod or micro transactions.
don't Kill me pls

[Scheneighnay]

Survival mode is functionally garbage, with the only redeeming factor of sortof looking good.
Getting it for free and seeing that guaranteed I'll never buy a mod from their trash store.
Unless you like having to eat every 5 minutes (or less) and have an extremely vague UI on how you're doing.

And yes, they are mods that are handled like microtransactions.

[Arcanobscura]

İlk olarak Scheneighnay tarafından gönderildi:

Survival mode is functionally garbage, with the only redeeming factor of sortof looking good.
Getting it for free and seeing that guaranteed I'll never buy a mod from their trash store.
Unless you like having to eat every 5 minutes (or less) and have an extremely vague UI on how you're doing.

And yes, they are mods that are handled like microtransactions.

If you're eating that much, you need to eat better food, i craft items that feed me 2-380, and 2-3 of those satisfy me for a long time. To really decide between each (if survival was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ free), is do you like/use "cold and wet", because currently it will lock up survival mode.

[Swordgun]

I personally would suggest neither. They both are somewhat incomplete at this point. Frostfall was great until these new changes changed everything. Also, Frostfall is not SKSE64 compatible which is a huge minus. SM is basically broken it causes the game to freeze, it makes it so you have to eat all the time. The way it makes you hit slowly due to the cold is too much. And the worst of all, enemies are not getting these debuffs which is just stupid.

Also, food is not balanced well in SM.

I personally will wait for the in-development project Last Seed by Chesko.

[JP]

İlk olarak Anqayas tarafından gönderildi:

I personally would suggest neither. They both are somewhat incomplete at this point. Frostfall was great until these new changes changed everything. Also, Frostfall is not SKSE64 compatible which is a huge minus. SM is basically broken it causes the game to freeze, it makes it so you have to eat all the time. The way it makes you hit slowly due to the cold is too much. And the worst of all, enemies are not getting these debuffs which is just stupid.

Also, food is not balanced well in SM.

I personally will wait for the in-development project Last Seed by Chesko.

It isn't hard to revert SE to 1.4.3 even then it isn't necessary. I have 0 issues with Frostfall on 1.5.3 along with SKSE64. It isn't hard to get Frostfall working with the latest update and SKSE64. I have all of Frostfall's features working along with exposure meters

[Scheneighnay]

İlk olarak Arcanobscura tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Scheneighnay tarafından gönderildi:

Survival mode is functionally garbage, with the only redeeming factor of sortof looking good.
Getting it for free and seeing that guaranteed I'll never buy a mod from their trash store.
Unless you like having to eat every 5 minutes (or less) and have an extremely vague UI on how you're doing.

And yes, they are mods that are handled like microtransactions.

If you're eating that much, you need to eat better food, i craft items that feed me 2-380, and 2-3 of those satisfy me for a long time. To really decide between each (if survival was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ free), is do you like/use "cold and wet", because currently it will lock up survival mode.

I ate cooked beef (280 I think) as soon as I became peckish and still had to eat 5 minutes later (at most).

[Swordgun]

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İlk olarak Anqayas tarafından gönderildi:

I personally would suggest neither. They both are somewhat incomplete at this point. Frostfall was great until these new changes changed everything. Also, Frostfall is not SKSE64 compatible which is a huge minus. SM is basically broken it causes the game to freeze, it makes it so you have to eat all the time. The way it makes you hit slowly due to the cold is too much. And the worst of all, enemies are not getting these debuffs which is just stupid.

Also, food is not balanced well in SM.

I personally will wait for the in-development project Last Seed by Chesko.

It isn't hard to revert SE to 1.4.3 even then it isn't necessary. I have 0 issues with Frostfall on 1.5.3 along with SKSE64. It isn't hard to get Frostfall working with the latest update and SKSE64. I have all of Frostfall's features working along with exposure meters

Well if it isn't that hard then I think OP should go for it.

[JP]

İlk olarak Anqayas tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak SynthetiXxX tarafından gönderildi:

It isn't hard to revert SE to 1.4.3 even then it isn't necessary. I have 0 issues with Frostfall on 1.5.3 along with SKSE64. It isn't hard to get Frostfall working with the latest update and SKSE64. I have all of Frostfall's features working along with exposure meters

Well if it isn't that hard then I think OP should go for it.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1167006481

http://steamcommunity.com/id/512618741846956/screenshot/876372911253026307

[☘♥♥♥♥♥♥Ireland]

İlk olarak raul.torroais.martins tarafından gönderildi:

is survival mode "good"? and vs Frostfall (with or without Ineed(Mod)) what are the cons and pros ?
And are creation club "add on" mods ? what i mean are they mods because they are more like micro transactions than mods. ask this because the ones making this "add on" are paided by bethesda like a normal bethesda worker so ? i don't want paid mods but idk if they are mod or micro transactions.
don't Kill me pls

Well since survival mode is just a lite, bugg filled version of Frostfall why would you NOT choose Frostfall? Frostfall has the added benefit of being free to everyone also.

[Sly-Scale]

Or we can all go back to the old Skyrim, where it feels like a game and not a commercial experiment.

[Tec]

Being completely unbiased here and not really having an issue with the creation store, honestly i get what you mean, the thing is there are some elements survival mode add's that Frostfall/iNeed/Wet & Cold etc dont have, which is why i wanted it to work, but i ahve too many side mods that add little things and work with Frostfall that i dont wanna risk messing with adding in the survival mode that will most likely brake it. As if i do ill most likely ahve to disable Frostfall and iNeed which will stop working wiht some of my AI mods that make use of them. So as much as i would like the things like diseases, paided shrines and a nice GUI that survival mode gives, i would probably hold off on it for now, unless those mods ever get support to work with it (which it seems will never happen which is a shame, because i would like to make use of those features)

I wish people would get over the 'paid mods' hate train though, this isnt exactly what that is, its a long term program to hopefully inspire future games to have continual DLC content for their games, right now its just mods on the store (you can tell they are temporary and quick creations, i get what their marketing director was going for but i think it would ahve been better to wait for actual DLC content to be put on it, rather than settle for what it is now), but i can see in the future there being fully fledged DLC's for those modders that want to get paid for creating that kind of content.

Also to clarify, Frostfall is available for SKE64, that version is even available on the bethesda.net in-game mod browser. Along with iNeed, Wet and Cold etc.

[Dragonlord3344]

I still use wet and cold with survival mode, but i have tried frostfall/ineed/wet and cold vs survival mode/wet and cold and i prefer survival mode, it does changes the ui which is the only big dif, untill script extender is full blown out.

[MeinChurro]

İlk olarak Anqayas tarafından gönderildi:

I personally would suggest neither. They both are somewhat incomplete at this point. Frostfall was great until these new changes changed everything. Also, Frostfall is not SKSE64 compatible which is a huge minus. SM is basically broken it causes the game to freeze, it makes it so you have to eat all the time. The way it makes you hit slowly due to the cold is too much. And the worst of all, enemies are not getting these debuffs which is just stupid.

Also, food is not balanced well in SM.

I personally will wait for the in-development project Last Seed by Chesko.

Yeah, there are only like 4 types of food that is even worth eating. Speaking of that it's really funny cause I found 2 pound cooked mammoth, and I was like "alright, this has got to feed me for a bunch!".. nope. Only 10 hp. You'd think cooked rabbit would feed you at lesat as much as salmon, or cabbage soup, but nah..

Survival mode is average, I would reccomend playing with it, just to change things up, but you should probably grab namira's ring pretty quick. You'll want to be eating people so that you don't go hungry often in half the dungeons. Also, eating people as werewolf counts, probably vampire feeding too, but I can't stand the ugly eyes, and I am too lazy to mod and fix it manually with TCO.

[Deylendor]

Frostfall > Survival Mode

[Arcanobscura]

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İlk olarak Arcanobscura tarafından gönderildi:

If you're eating that much, you need to eat better food, i craft items that feed me 2-380, and 2-3 of those satisfy me for a long time. To really decide between each (if survival was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ free), is do you like/use "cold and wet", because currently it will lock up survival mode.

I ate cooked beef (280 I think) as soon as I became peckish and still had to eat 5 minutes later (at most).

eat until you are "well fed"

[ƒaylen §øl]

Depends on you.

Currently Frostfall and Campfire are somewhat incompatible with SKSE64 and most likely will not be updated to fix the issues since the mod author (Chesko) has been MIA for months now. People have been assuming he went MIA to work on Creation Club content and rumors have spread suggesting he is behind Survival Mode.

Survival Mode does do more than Frostfall and Frostfall does things that Survival does. You can completely emulate Survival with Free Mods (and do more than what Survival offers) but you would need about 4 or 5 mods to completely emulate it (Mostly because some mods require more mods).