The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Rokoshy Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:38am
[Lore] What happens to the Dragonborn after you finish all quests, secondary and main, on the game?
Asking not about the gameplay.

Since during your game you have become servant of so many things, done so much stuff, and made so many pacts and such, what happens to the Dragonborn after the events of the game? Or what happens after he dies?
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CrackeR Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:41am 
You stand on a rock , disintegrate and go to the great dragon roost in the sky!!!!! :steammocking::steammocking::steammocking::steambored:
Swordgun Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:47am 
It's an open-world and a sandbox game, it's like Minecraft with quests and scripted events.
Last edited by Swordgun; Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:48am
Ilja Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:58am 
I would say that Akatosh has dibs for Dragonborn's soul. It does not really matter which other arrangements he/she makes.

Only exception might be the Dark Brotherhood. Sithis might have few words to say about Dragonborn's afterlife (or rather lack of it), if our hero decided to side with Void.
Rokoshy Oct 25, 2017 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by Ilja:
I would say that Akatosh has dibs for Dragonborn's soul. It does not really matter which other arrangements he/she makes.
Sounds about right.
Makes you wonder why all daedra princes made arrangements with you.
MysticMalevolence Oct 25, 2017 @ 8:08am 
Your soul is split and in the next game all of the factions will have a dovahkiinarine to side with them.
Internet Boy Oct 25, 2017 @ 9:14am 
Bethesda likes to write away their main characters so they don't have to deal with the consequences of player choice. The Nerevarine went on a journey to Akavir to never be heard from again, the Champion of Cyrodill mantled Sheogorath and thus is indistinguishable from the old Sheogorath and if I had to bet on it the Dragonborn will likely disappear in service of Hermeus Mora.

Don't expect to hear from the Dragonborn again.
DrNewcenstein Oct 25, 2017 @ 12:29pm 
No one knows. Bethesda isn't saying. Everything else is speculation and conjecture. Everything. No matter how much "sense" it makes, it's all conjecture.

With that said....
How did the player even get the blessing of Akatosh? Did you die when you were captured and put on the cart? Where others thought you were unconscious, you were really dead? And in that blink, did Akatosh bestow upon you a new soul, which is why you don't have memories of or links to anyone in Skyrim?
Surely if you lived in Skyrim, did you not have one person who recognized you? Even your cart co-passengers don't know you, with the exception of maybe Lokir of Rorikstead, but given his dialog towards you, you apparently didn't know all that much about each other, or for very long.

And then what's up with those crazy eyes Lokir gives you as you ride into Helgen and Ralof speaks about the Dominion? Almost as if Lokir has something to say, but doesn't. Were you both agents of the Dominion sent specifically to locate Ulfric who was trying to sneak around? Was Lokir running to Elenwyn when they arrowed him down in the highway, down like a dog on the highway?

And what about those Dork Brotherhood Assassins? Who sent them? Why? They come even if all you do is flee Helgen and go to your Player Home, completely bypassing Riverwood and never seeing Ralof or Hadvar ever again, and doing everything legally. Is this some clue to who you were before you woke up on the cart?

If Akatosh gave you that soul to begin with, and your original one is already gone, you've gone to whatever end you signed up for before that, and Akatosh claims the soul he gave you, because it's not yours to barter away. It's a loaner, and he has renter's insurance.
Then again, maybe Akatosh says you're free to do as you please.

Maybe the Dragonborn is just an overlay that is recalled once your Dragonborn-specific tasks have been completed, and you're left somewhere to wake up with your original soul, wondering where you are, how you got there, and why, with no memory of the Dragonborn stuff, except as a dream.
Which means if you signed up for all sorts of afterlife after-parties while wearing your Dragonborn soul pants, you've scrood yourself pretty hard.

Sithis might be the only one to out-rank Akatosh, since he was the first, and Akatosh was merely the first to take form in the void, which is Sithis.

The Daedra are minor spirits by comparison to the Aedra and Sithis, who is not a Daedra, so Hircine, Nocturnal, Molag Bal (assuming you're a Vampire - he makes no claim on your soul in exchange for his Mace), Hircine, and Hermaeus Mora will have to take a number.
They are the only Daedra who put in such a claim on your afterlife, and Molag Bal only does so indirectly by virtue of you being a Vampire.

Since you can't be a Vampire and Werewolf at the same time (strictly speaking of the established Elder Scrolls lore and ignoring all glitches, exploits, console commands, and mods to the contrary), then either Molag Bal or Hircine are going to be instantly eliminated from the final consideration.

Azura, Meridia, Boethia, Mephala, and Namira want you to be their Champion in life, and appear unconcerned with your afterlife. At most, Namira would want your corpse to serve as food for her followers. Your soul, who knows? She's not clear on this.

Peryite, Clavicus Vile, Malacath, and Mehrunes Dagon only want you to do the one thing for them in life, and then they're done with you. Except for Dagon; he wants you dead because you're a mortal. Even if you play as an Orc, Malacath won't make you Chief of a stronghold once you complete his quest. Which kinda sucks if you think about it.

And then there's Sheogorath, the Player from Oblivion (since the Shivering Isles DLC is now canon and lore).
Since he put no stipulations on the Wabbajack, he may have no concern for your afterlife. Then again, he's crazy, so you really can't say. Since he'll never have to go through the Jyygalag crisis again, he won't tap you as his replacement. Then again, he's crazy, so you really can't say.

The Aedra do not seem to care either way. Do they live together in Aetherius, like the Gods of Olympus? Or do they each have their own bubbles like the Daedra and only ever meet one another in Mundus, as when they met with Sheogorath as chronicled in the Sixteen Accords of Madness?

Do the Aedra all sit in agreement that you've done right by them, so they'll do right by you?

Will Shor call you to his Hall, even if you're not a Nord? Didn't exactly see any non-Nords when I was there.

If you're Argonian, you return to the Hist, no matter what, because that is a totally separate thing from Aedra and Daedra. It's still unclear if an Argonian Vampire or Werewolf (Volkihar and Inner Circle type) is even lore-possible. Standard vampirism is a disease, to which Argonians are immune, but the direct transfer by a Volkihar is a sharing of a curse of Molag Bal.
Likewise, Lycanthropy via the Inner Circle or Hircine's Ring are the same, as you're accepting a curse.
So for an Argonian, it may be a grey area. These may be the only two lore-possible ways to contract these afflictions.

The same could be said for Kajhiit, as they're not a bipedal derivative of the less-furry bipedal races, despite any previous statements of them being a *-mer race.

While Redguards developed separately from the Elven, Imperial, Nord, and Orc races, it is assumed they are merely brothers from another mother, and thus can suffer similar fates with respect to the Aedra and Daedra.
Same as happened to all the other heros of Elder Scroll games, nobody knows exactly, but it's probably the same as what you've done before.
Miso Mar 29, 2019 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by DrNewcenstein:
No one knows. Bethesda isn't saying. Everything else is speculation and conjecture. Everything. No matter how much "sense" it makes, it's all conjecture.

With that said....
How did the player even get the blessing of Akatosh? Did you die when you were captured and put on the cart? Where others thought you were unconscious, you were really dead? And in that blink, did Akatosh bestow upon you a new soul, which is why you don't have memories of or links to anyone in Skyrim?
Surely if you lived in Skyrim, did you not have one person who recognized you? Even your cart co-passengers don't know you, with the exception of maybe Lokir of Rorikstead, but given his dialog towards you, you apparently didn't know all that much about each other, or for very long.

And then what's up with those crazy eyes Lokir gives you as you ride into Helgen and Ralof speaks about the Dominion? Almost as if Lokir has something to say, but doesn't. Were you both agents of the Dominion sent specifically to locate Ulfric who was trying to sneak around? Was Lokir running to Elenwyn when they arrowed him down in the highway, down like a dog on the highway?

And what about those Dork Brotherhood Assassins? Who sent them? Why? They come even if all you do is flee Helgen and go to your Player Home, completely bypassing Riverwood and never seeing Ralof or Hadvar ever again, and doing everything legally. Is this some clue to who you were before you woke up on the cart?

If Akatosh gave you that soul to begin with, and your original one is already gone, you've gone to whatever end you signed up for before that, and Akatosh claims the soul he gave you, because it's not yours to barter away. It's a loaner, and he has renter's insurance.
Then again, maybe Akatosh says you're free to do as you please.

Maybe the Dragonborn is just an overlay that is recalled once your Dragonborn-specific tasks have been completed, and you're left somewhere to wake up with your original soul, wondering where you are, how you got there, and why, with no memory of the Dragonborn stuff, except as a dream.
Which means if you signed up for all sorts of afterlife after-parties while wearing your Dragonborn soul pants, you've scrood yourself pretty hard.

Sithis might be the only one to out-rank Akatosh, since he was the first, and Akatosh was merely the first to take form in the void, which is Sithis.

The Daedra are minor spirits by comparison to the Aedra and Sithis, who is not a Daedra, so Hircine, Nocturnal, Molag Bal (assuming you're a Vampire - he makes no claim on your soul in exchange for his Mace), Hircine, and Hermaeus Mora will have to take a number.
They are the only Daedra who put in such a claim on your afterlife, and Molag Bal only does so indirectly by virtue of you being a Vampire.

Since you can't be a Vampire and Werewolf at the same time (strictly speaking of the established Elder Scrolls lore and ignoring all glitches, exploits, console commands, and mods to the contrary), then either Molag Bal or Hircine are going to be instantly eliminated from the final consideration.

Azura, Meridia, Boethia, Mephala, and Namira want you to be their Champion in life, and appear unconcerned with your afterlife. At most, Namira would want your corpse to serve as food for her followers. Your soul, who knows? She's not clear on this.

Peryite, Clavicus Vile, Malacath, and Mehrunes Dagon only want you to do the one thing for them in life, and then they're done with you. Except for Dagon; he wants you dead because you're a mortal. Even if you play as an Orc, Malacath won't make you Chief of a stronghold once you complete his quest. Which kinda sucks if you think about it.

And then there's Sheogorath, the Player from Oblivion (since the Shivering Isles DLC is now canon and lore).
Since he put no stipulations on the Wabbajack, he may have no concern for your afterlife. Then again, he's crazy, so you really can't say. Since he'll never have to go through the Jyygalag crisis again, he won't tap you as his replacement. Then again, he's crazy, so you really can't say.

The Aedra do not seem to care either way. Do they live together in Aetherius, like the Gods of Olympus? Or do they each have their own bubbles like the Daedra and only ever meet one another in Mundus, as when they met with Sheogorath as chronicled in the Sixteen Accords of Madness?

Do the Aedra all sit in agreement that you've done right by them, so they'll do right by you?

Will Shor call you to his Hall, even if you're not a Nord? Didn't exactly see any non-Nords when I was there.

If you're Argonian, you return to the Hist, no matter what, because that is a totally separate thing from Aedra and Daedra. It's still unclear if an Argonian Vampire or Werewolf (Volkihar and Inner Circle type) is even lore-possible. Standard vampirism is a disease, to which Argonians are immune, but the direct transfer by a Volkihar is a sharing of a curse of Molag Bal.
Likewise, Lycanthropy via the Inner Circle or Hircine's Ring are the same, as you're accepting a curse.
So for an Argonian, it may be a grey area. These may be the only two lore-possible ways to contract these afflictions.

The same could be said for Kajhiit, as they're not a bipedal derivative of the less-furry bipedal races, despite any previous statements of them being a *-mer race.

While Redguards developed separately from the Elven, Imperial, Nord, and Orc races, it is assumed they are merely brothers from another mother, and thus can suffer similar fates with respect to the Aedra and Daedra.


I like this reply alot, it asks alot of good questions. however im going to correct a few things.

First and formost. you assume the dragonborn loses his power to akatosh at some point, this is wrong, how?. miraak. miraaks existence is the best case as to why the dragonborn forever stays a dragonborn. as to this post. its clear you end up serving hermaus mora forever. since you can gain immortality from apocrypha's many pieces of knowledge, as shown by miraak. if one was to say he lives forever, he literally could in canon
Vomit Heart Mar 29, 2019 @ 8:15am 
You go missing and are never seen again as per normal.
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