Menu fix mod :: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition General Discussions

Store Page

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition > General Discussions > Topic Details

Lunaza

has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Jan 12, 2017 @ 10:31am

Menu fix mod

Looked around for a bit, couldn't find anything so I'm hoping someone here will know somethings.
Basically when you press esc now it will open journal if you recently had your journal open, and the same the other way around.
Is there any mod to return this to oldrim where j is always journal and esc was always the save menu?

The author of this topic has marked a post as the answer to their question.
Click here to jump to that post.

Originally posted by ConstantinE™:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18397?tab=description here you go bois.

< >

Showing 1-15 of 22 comments

aaaddd4747 has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Nov 2, 2017 @ 12:00am

I'm having this same issue, did you ever find a fix?

Lunaza

Nov 2, 2017 @ 4:31am

Originally posted by aaaddd4747:
I'm having this same issue, did you ever find a fix?

Nope sorry, but I'll let you know if I do

TehSpoopyKitteh has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Nov 2, 2017 @ 4:55am

The menu will remember where you were in it. Use the J key to access your Journal menu. All you have to do is click on "System" to find your load, save, quit, control settings and gameplay settings.

Lunaza

Nov 2, 2017 @ 4:56am

Originally posted by 🐱Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:
The menu will remember where you were in it. Use the J key to access your Journal menu. All you have to do is click on "System" to find your load, save, quit, control settings and gameplay settings.

Yes I know that, that's the problem. But that's not how it was in oldrim, I don't like how the menu remembers where you were last and I'd rather the keys opened the menu that you actually want, so J is always journal, esc is always save.

HEART

Nov 2, 2017 @ 9:19am

I'm pretty sure you can edit the key binding in the config. ini
Go in there and play around with it.

Nudl Supp'n has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Nov 2, 2017 @ 11:18am

the options for the controls say the ESC key is to open the SYSTEMS tab, which is not the case, it opens the journal.
that's a bug.

Lunaza

Nov 2, 2017 @ 11:21am

Originally posted by Larry Laffer:
the options for the controls say the ESC key is to open the SYSTEMS tab, which is not the case, it opens the journal.
that's a bug.

It's not a bug. Both the J key andf the ESC key open whichever of the two menus you last had open. So esc will open journal if you last looked at the journal. It's suppoed to do that, it just sucks.

Nudl Supp'n has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Nov 2, 2017 @ 11:26am

Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.
In the options it clearly states ESC opens (it should open) the Systems tab and for J it states Journal.
But it doesn't therefore => Bug!

Last edited by Nudl Supp'n; Nov 2, 2017 @ 11:26am

Lunaza

Nov 2, 2017 @ 11:28am

Originally posted by Larry Laffer:
Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.
In the options it clearly states ESC opens (it should open) the Systems tab and for J it states Journal.
But it doesn't therefore => Bug!

Yeah it says that but it doesn't, the fact that is says that is the bug. It's an intentional feature it's just not decribed in the keyconfig

It's workable, not like it breaks tha game or stops you from opening either menu, but its annoying and a bad design choice so I'm still looking to mod it back to the original scheme.

aaaddd4747 has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Nov 6, 2017 @ 8:25pm

Listen. bug or not its an undesirable behaviour. I find it unreasonably annoying. Also this "fix":

Originally posted by 🐱Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:
The menu will remember where you were in it. Use the J key to access your Journal menu. All you have to do is click on "System" to find your load, save, quit, control settings and gameplay settings.

doesn't even work.

This, combined with the annoying FO4 style running system, janky 3rd person camera movement, and general lack of mods makes me just want to go back to oldrim and all of its bugs and instability.

#10

TehSpoopyKitteh has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Nov 6, 2017 @ 8:52pm

Originally posted by aaaddd4747:
Listen. bug or not its an undesirable behaviour. I find it unreasonably annoying. Also this "fix":

Originally posted by 🐱Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:
The menu will remember where you were in it. Use the J key to access your Journal menu. All you have to do is click on "System" to find your load, save, quit, control settings and gameplay settings.

doesn't even work.

This, combined with the annoying FO4 style running system, janky 3rd person camera movement, and general lack of mods makes me just want to go back to oldrim and all of its bugs and instability.

Dude, Nexus Mods is reliable enough with its Nexus Mods Manager...create an account there to download using it...and with a completely free account at Bethesda.net you can log into the Mods menu in Skyrim SE's start screen to access even more mods. The feature you speak of had no fix. Just check the keyboard commands while playing and it should show you the key you use.

FO4 was created using SkyrimSE's engine. The projects were worked on in tandem.

Last edited by TehSpoopyKitteh; Nov 6, 2017 @ 8:53pm

#11

FuryoftheStars has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Nov 16, 2017 @ 12:52pm

Originally posted by Lunaza:
Originally posted by Larry Laffer:
Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.
In the options it clearly states ESC opens (it should open) the Systems tab and for J it states Journal.
But it doesn't therefore => Bug!
Yeah it says that but it doesn't, the fact that is says that is the bug. It's an intentional feature it's just not decribed in the keyconfig

It's workable, not like it breaks tha game or stops you from opening either menu, but its annoying and a bad design choice so I'm still looking to mod it back to the original scheme.

I would consider it a bug because this was not the behavior in 32-bit Skyrim. Further, the menus do not open as you describe (at least, not on mine). If I press J or ESC, it will open the Journal regardless of where I was last in the menu. Just tested to be sure I was remembering this right. ;)

#12

Lunaza

Nov 16, 2017 @ 2:30pm

Originally posted by Kleiner's final Form:
Remind me why you need to open the save menu for anything else than changing settings or closing the game, you have F5 for a reason. If you want to put extra effort into making an actual save your gonna use your mouse anyways, so i dont understand the problem.

(Controllers are not an excuse, this is the PC version)

The main problem is that when I press J it opens the save menu. It's annoying the other way round too but that's the main thing

#13

FuryoftheStars has The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

Nov 18, 2017 @ 7:45am

For me it becomes a PITA when adjusting mod settings. Also, I don't like to always use F5 for saving as it will overwrite the previous. Sometimes I like to leave myself a few good save points to fall back to just in case I screwed myself over on something and didn't realize it until later.

As an example, if I travel to an area that then gets attacked (dragon, vampires, etc) and an NPC that I (personally) need/want to live that isn't essential dies, but I don't realize it right away, do some traveling/in & out of buildings so the auto-saves overwrite and maybe throw a quick save in there, then I realize the NPC is dead... unless I've also been occasionally doing manual saves, that's that, the NPC is dead and gone. Yeah, there are resurrect mods, but there are some things that happen in the background when an NPC dies that can't be undone.

Last edited by FuryoftheStars; Nov 18, 2017 @ 7:50am

#14