Hail Sithis! Quest won't start.

[maievoiences]

Right after Death Incarnate is finished and after Astrid's death, the Night Mother says go to Amaund who's in Whiterun and he'll say where the real emperor is. She also says I should to talk to Nazir about my plans.

1. Hail Sithis doesn't start after the conversation.
2. Nazir doesn't have the dialogue where I tell him about the plans.
3. He and Babette do not leave the Sanctuary.
4. Amaund Motierre is neither in Bannered Mare or Volunruud. He is nowhere to be found.

I experimented on this. I had made multiple saves to see if it was any of the action/s that I took was/were the reason/s for this awfully frustrating bug.

1a. Saved Cicero
1.b Killed Cicero
2.a Killed Astrid with the Blade of Woe
2.b Killed Astrid with an iron sword without taking the Blade
2.c Killed Astrid with an iron sword but took the Blade

Unluckily, none of them worked. I had downloaded the "Dark Brotherhood for the Good Guys" mod from NMM because there were some players who experienced the same bug and they said the mod fixed the bug. It did not.

3.a Enabled the mod after Innocence Lost was finished (I used the Alternate Life - DB Start)
3.b Disable the mod after Innocence Lost was finished (Again, I used the AL - DB Start)
4.a Enabled the mode right before Death Incarnate was finished.
5.a Disabled the mode right before Death Incarnate was finished.

Again, none of them worked. I kind of really wanted to finish the questline. I tried using console commands but they had no effect whatsoever in starting Hail Sithis.

Can someone help? It would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

[maievoiences]

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[Tryst49]

The big problem is that some mods could interfere and also, some actions you took many saves back could have affected it. If you installed a mod to fix it, chances are something from way back has caused it not to work and the only real way to make it work properly would be to go back a very long way, maybe even right back to becoming the chef or even before. It might even require you to restart entirely, (at least restart the DB entirely).

[maievoiences]

Originally posted by tryst49:

The big problem is that some mods could interfere and also, some actions you took many saves back could have affected it. If you installed a mod to fix it, chances are something from way back has caused it not to work and the only real way to make it work properly would be to go back a very long way, maybe even right back to becoming the chef or even before. It might even require you to restart entirely, (at least restart the DB entirely).

Hi, thank you for your reply. I do have mods, but to my knowledge, these are the only ones that can possibly interfere with the DB questline:

1. Immersive CItizens
2. RDO
3. Realistic Conversations
4. Alternate Start
5. DB for the Good Guys

I should've mentioned that I replayed the questline three times, all different and new characters for each, using the DB start through Alternate Start, and all three of them failed. I made two new characters that did not go with the DB start, and started Innocence Lost at Level 30. Both failed as well. What I'm yet to try is go with the vanilla start through Alternate Start.

Do you think I should temporarily disable these mods while I'm doing the questline? As of yet, I've only tried disabling Realistic Conversations and it still failed lol.

[Sandormen]

Do you have the unofficial patch?

[maievoiences]

Originally posted by Sandormen:

Do you have the unofficial patch?

Yes, I do! That can't be the problem, can it? I was under the impression that USSEP would be fixing the problems, not creating them. But then again, I've only started playing so what do I know.

[maievoiences]

Anyone?

[zeratulcraft]

Try using the setstage console command to start the quest?

[[NOR] Hatsjer - Dafuq?]

I too am having the exact same problem as listed above! :(

[[NOR] Hatsjer - Dafuq?]

Originally posted by zeratulcraft:

Try using the setstage console command to start the quest?

Didn't work for me.

[[NOR] Hatsjer - Dafuq?]

Thanks for the help from the NMM community on their discord server did we find a solution.

moving the dark brotherhood for good guys to the bottom of the loadorder and typing
setstage db11 05
in the console commands.

[roob]

Originally posted by NOR Hatsjer - Dafuq?:

Thanks for the help from the NMM community on their discord server did we find a solution.

moving the dark brotherhood for good guys to the bottom of the loadorder and typing
setstage db11 05
in the console commands.

THIS GUY IS THE BEST
I've tried everything to fix it, such a bizarre fix but thank god, was just about to quit w skyrim. Thanks man!