Breton = Worst racials

[Dissection]

I've been using google to check what are best racials. In youtube they say it's Breton and I also came up to this poll:

31% Breton
13% Altmer
5% Argonian
5% Bosmer
6% Dunmer
15% Nord
5% Imperial
9% Khajit
7% Orc
5% Redguard

I have every single magic school at 108% legit with no exploits/mods or other tools. It takes me literally 3sec to swap jewerly and I make dragons completely useless in legendary.

So in the end best racials comes to fact which has best cooldown against bosses in dungeons especially if you're melee player. Answer = #1. Argonian if you don't overspam/make pots and #2. Orc if you spam/make lots pots. Argonian is winner when it comes for effeciency out of all races.

[Xerkie]

Skyrim belongs to the Lizards.

[One Eye Jack]

I prefer the cats

[78pac7]

Wait so how do Argonians have better "cooldowns" against bosses? What cooldowns are you refering to?

[Shellbie]

Originally posted by Squidbarrel:

Wait so how do Argonians have better "cooldowns" against bosses? What cooldowns are you refering to?

Histskin

Old video, but you get the idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg0caLulXoo

[KrazyOne]

Since when being able to ignore 25% of all damage done by Dragons and Mages a bad racial? Concidering some of the more powerful enemies are infact spellcasters.

Worst Racial is the Wood Elf, concidering after lvl 5 it pretty much becomes useless.

[78pac7]

Originally posted by Katherine:

Originally posted by Squidbarrel:

Wait so how do Argonians have better "cooldowns" against bosses? What cooldowns are you refering to?

Histskin

Old video, but you get the idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg0caLulXoo

So he boosted his hp regen? Does that affect cooldowns, though? From my understanding, Greater Powers like Histskin have a 24 hour cooldown (in-game time). Did he change this or something? I just don't see how this affects the "cooldown".

[Shellbie]

Originally posted by Squidbarrel:

Originally posted by Katherine:

Histskin

Old video, but you get the idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg0caLulXoo

So he boosted his hp regen? Does that affect cooldowns, though? From my understanding, Greater Powers like Histskin have a 24 hour cooldown (in-game time). Did he change this or something? I just don't see how this affects the "cooldown".

The cooldown remains the same, but his health regen goes to the roof making any boss fight a cake walk.

link to the old build
http://www.tamrielvault4.com/groups/topic/view/page/1/group_id/3/topic_id/236

[Belanos]

Originally posted by KrazyOne:

Since when being able to ignore 25% of all damage done by Dragons and Mages a bad racial?

Not to mention a +5 bonus for almost every magic skill, except for Destruction and Enchanting. A +10 bonus for Conjuration and the ability to summon a Familiar right from the start. Then an additional +5 bonus to Speech and Alchemy. Plus a Major Power that absorbs 50% of any magic that's tossed at you. I'd hardly call that a bad race. It sounds to me like the OP just doesn't know how to use a Breton properly.

[78pac7]

Originally posted by Katherine:

Originally posted by Squidbarrel:

So he boosted his hp regen? Does that affect cooldowns, though? From my understanding, Greater Powers like Histskin have a 24 hour cooldown (in-game time). Did he change this or something? I just don't see how this affects the "cooldown".

The cooldown remains the same, but his health regen goes to the roof making any boss fight a cake walk.

link to the old build
http://www.tamrielvault4.com/groups/topic/view/page/1/group_id/3/topic_id/236

Well, yeah, but there are plenty of ways to cheese boss fights. Like stacking the Atronach Stone with Dragonskin as a Breton to make you immune to magic. A lot of bosses fight almost elusively with magic. Alduin, Miraak, Dragon Preists for example. Far easier than getting regen enchanted gear, health + regen potions as the guy in the vid did. All you need is one standing stone and one racial ability.

[Shellbie]

Originally posted by Squidbarrel:

Originally posted by Katherine:

The cooldown remains the same, but his health regen goes to the roof making any boss fight a cake walk.

link to the old build
http://www.tamrielvault4.com/groups/topic/view/page/1/group_id/3/topic_id/236

Well, yeah, but there are plenty of ways to cheese boss fights. Like stacking the Atronach Stone with Dragonskin as a Breton to make you immune to magic. A lot of bosses fight almost elusively with magic. Alduin, Miraak, Dragon Preists for example. Far easier than getting regen enchanted gear, health + regen potions as the guy in the vid did. All you need is one standing stone and one racial ability.

Aye sir!

[Diablerie]

Originally posted by Belanos:

Originally posted by KrazyOne:

Since when being able to ignore 25% of all damage done by Dragons and Mages a bad racial?

Not to mention a +5 bonus for almost every magic skill, except for Destruction and Enchanting. A +10 bonus for Conjuration and the ability to summon a Familiar right from the start. Then an additional +5 bonus to Speech and Alchemy. Plus a Major Power that absorbs 50% of any magic that's tossed at you. I'd hardly call that a bad race. It sounds to me like the OP just doesn't know how to use a Breton properly.

Good advantages initially but it all balances out after a while, heck I played a redguard mage that was pretty much nearly immune to spell damage and had high spell absorb through use of the atronach stone and the alteration perks

[Dissection]

I've played only Khajiit so far and I can confirm after having xp from game and reading all racials stats that Argonian is by far best. That video you posted doesn't suprise me at all.

Orc is defienetly best for stealth character. If I had been orc I'd do 3500 damage openers legit with no mods/exploits. Well it's overkill because game is allready easy with ranger but for minmax sake defienetly orc.

For my next 2-hander for legendary build it will be defienetly Argonian. I'll use rings/amus for resistances.

Cooldowns don't matter in game because after quicktraveling + selling they always reset for boss/dragons fights without having to force resting and you use hotkeys which doesn't take any effort.

[Xerkie]

Personally i'd say Argonians, Orcs, and Bretons are the best.

Argonians have water breathing from the start which in itself is a great perk, and while their racial skill bonuses aren't huge they make up for it with Histskin, which piles on survivability in the form of letting you regenerate TEN TIMES the Health for a while, and the cooldown isn't terribly long. Pair this with some health upgrades and Konahrik and you can become virtually unkillable. If you want to, upgrade heavy armor, wear some, and upgrade the heavy armor tree. You'll be able to become literally immortal.

Another race that can do this is the Orc, who has +10 Heavy Armor, +5 Block, +5 Enchanting, +5 One-Handed, +5 Smithing, and +5 Two-Handed, which are great racial bonuses. But the cherry on the cake is Berserkers rage, which grants unparelleled survivability and combat strength. For one you take half as much damage for a while. Pair this with some heavy armor or upgraded light armor and you can become damn well near unkillable. Again, pair this with Konahrik and a large Health pool and you can become immortal (Although it's more chancy due to Berserk's far longer cooldown) because at 15% HP you'll still have a good amount of HP to fight, but you'll take half damage and have the armor bonus, so you'll only get hit for maybe a few points each attack, which is enough to trigger Konahrik's effect.

Bretons are amazing Magick tanks because of their magick versatility and 50% Magick resistance. Most late-game enemies (Miraak, Alduin, and Legendary Dragons) use magick in abundance, which makes the Bretons only better as the game progresses. Combine the 50% Magick resistance with the Atronarch stone and you'll not only be immune to magick, but 100% of Magick attacks fired at you will go directly to your mana. Combine this with Miraaks set [Or a set with Regenerate Magicka | Increase Magicka] and you'll almost never run out of mana. Bretons, imo, are the third best race.

[Mytheos]

Well there may be differences as the game progresses...

But in the end Bretons win...

Sure you can get crazy regen with a lizard...but you dont need crazy regen if you just have good armor and decent HP.

The magical resist and absorb from bretons takes care of the more difficult parts to cover which is magic resist and absorb.

Varies a bit depending on what you do but...on the overall Bretons = #1

( Probably why they won the poll 2 to 1 vs 2nd place. )

[Dissection]

Well it's simple really. If you skip enchanting then Breton is best by far.

If you enchant then Breton is close to worst. If I'm totally honest nothing can beat Khajiit at being worst.

When it comes for res I haven't had single issue yet in legendary because I swap 105 res in 3sec. Imagine having res gear while insane health regen whole 60 seconds. It's insane.