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Solitude Liberation Glitch
Hello,

after the battle of Solitude, in which I managed to kill Tulius and Rikke, Ulfric gave his speech as usual and the quest ended.

However, after I've been questing for a while, the map markers for Solitude and the Blue Palace never returned. There are still Haafingar guards all over the place and the city is still in ruins (altho it's not burning anymore) and the battle music is playing. The palace is locked as well as the bard academy. Every person in the city acts as nothing happened. Also Elisif makes her usual speak as Ulfric won. Simply everyone, from Windhelm to Solitude acts as they're supposed to. But the city is still in "war mode".

I tried to talk with Ulfric again and no change. Also I tried the setstage CWsiegeobj 9000 console comnmand, quested for a while, but that didn't help either.

Does anyone has any solutions for this?


PS: I defeated the Dark Brotherhood long before I started the CW. I'm not Thane in Solitude or Windhelm yet.

PPS: The only mod I use is the one that shows the Barenziah Stones on the map, but I started using that after the battle.
Last edited by Suicidal Sheep; Feb 17, 2017 @ 3:18am
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Suicidal Sheep Feb 17, 2017 @ 6:26am 
*bump*
TSP Feb 17, 2017 @ 7:02am 
Hey, have you tried a step that UESP recommends?
After killing General Tulius and Ulfric's second speech, Solitude may stay in war mode.

An easy solution is to fast travel to Windhelm and talk to Ulfric in the Palace of the Kings, where he will offer you to be Thane of Eastmarch. This should reset Solitude back to normal, with Stormcloak soldiers instead of Haafingar guards.

If you do the above and it still doesn't work, I recommend you to get the USSEP:
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266/?
It is, I daresay, the most important mod for Skyrim SE. I usually recommend using USSEP at the start of a new game, but since you're in one already:

Move far away from Solitude (Say, windhelm), save.
Install USSEP.
Load up the latest save, wait 24 hours. Go back to Solitude. You may have to still use the part in quotations above.
Suicidal Sheep Feb 17, 2017 @ 7:57am 
Thanks mate. I'll try. It's actually for my gf. She has a habbit that her Skyrim glitches, sometimes gamebreaking. Dunno why.

Talking with Ulfric didn't work. She has become Thane of Eastmarch now and still no change in Solitude. I'll let her try the USSEP tho.
Suicidal Sheep Feb 17, 2017 @ 9:57am 
USSEP didn't fix it. Still as before. Any other idea? Maybe some console command, anyone?
TSP Feb 17, 2017 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Suicidal Sheep:
USSEP didn't fix it. Still as before. Any other idea? Maybe some console command, anyone?
Before you do this, make sure you save first:

Sorry this is about 3 years late xD but this is for anyone else stuck in a permanent battle for solitude like thing. If you have completed the quest and is still like it, then type in resetquest cwsiegeobj and the siege will stop. I have yet to see any side effects from this but everything has returned to normal and the stormcloaks act like the quest is completed.
*From some random dude that had the same problem
Last edited by TSP; Feb 17, 2017 @ 10:41am
Suicidal Sheep Feb 17, 2017 @ 11:13am 
Yup, saved before as you said. Didn't help.

Also, saw that random dudes post as well on google search. Didn't fix the problem either.
Void#151625 Feb 17, 2017 @ 12:06pm 
1 return first to windhelm castle talk again to ulfric or rather listen to his talk
2 travle to the closes point to solitude and enter and unlock it again
its the common bug like that most the time that happens and you must do this steps to hear all talks form Ulfric to compelte it
just hearing his talk in solitude is not enough you must listen to his after talk in windhelm castle as well to fully complet it!
once listen to all those talk solitude must be unlocked by you again to have it work.

in solitude the act talk is more show buisness
where you get the end conclusion in widnhelm castle.
the step in windhelm castle is needed to give you the details of the moot.

so to speak solitude greate speach is part A(public)
windhelm castle talk is part B (bit more private)
ps top have the talk work...
1 you must load that save file when you in windhelm castle and that from a new started skyrim game cause soemtemes the reference to war is stuck!
for this reason never use continue it will keep the stuck reference......
use allways load to enter you game when you start skyrim...
and after war shut down skyrim enter windhelm catsle... save
shut down skyrim... let the war cache be cleared.....
and then start game and load the game and do NEVER use CONTINUE!.
sicne CONTINUE allways will break your game in stuck cache reference....

Skyrim SE Continue is as broken as Oblivions Continue button same problame with both.
the reason it bugs is following:
it does NOT load a save game, but loads the reference data of the last game refrence cache.... what means if play refrence is broken or stuck it will stay same........

Continue should had be written with only charcter name an newest save file and then load it but sadly it does not work like that..... instead it loads only the last loaded reference data!
Last edited by Void#151625; Feb 17, 2017 @ 12:37pm
Suicidal Sheep Feb 19, 2017 @ 7:57am 
@CDM
That didn't work either unfortunaly.

Anyone else with an idea or is it broken for all eternity?
Void#151625 Feb 19, 2017 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Suicidal Sheep:
@CDM
That didn't work either unfortunaly.

Anyone else with an idea or is it broken for all eternity?
did you check rikka and the generals corpses....?
btw how much time has passed in game i think it takes 7 -14 ingame days to fix it some times.. if that still doesnt help thatr run threw can be broken and might need debug fix..... but will then even break more.... after my experience...

this bug tends to be caused when you have an overflow inside the game....... caused for some reason or another: like console commands, mods, to powerfull stuff, bad load of cache added and removed mods can cause it as welll...... seen it happen....

its one of the first signs that a game save is broken.......
and should be put to bed...... like .. RIP has been nice but its goodbye ................
best thing todo is restart a new game with proper mods and with unofficial patch.

your best soloution in that case is go back to a save that is befor you started the war and hope that overflow had not happend by then...... if you have the backup that is....

reason war is buggy is cause it can conflict with main story and a lot of other quests not just one.... and if the war one is broken it clearly shows that round 20-100 quest are broken....
Last edited by Void#151625; Feb 19, 2017 @ 8:22am
Ultr@ro Sep 17, 2017 @ 9:38am 
i had this problem,deleted all saved games ,i started the game all over again WITHOUT USING the NEW QUICKSAVE option
after killing the general and after the speach outside i folowed the new king outside until he stoped then i fast travel to stables then farm then windhelm then whiterun... that worked for me.

i also made sure to kill the dragon that atacks @ Morthal , might bug later on i asume
Last edited by Ultr@ro; Sep 17, 2017 @ 9:47am
RonnyLaRock Dec 4, 2019 @ 8:34am 
Hello. I also had this bug where Rikke and Tulius would just attack me and never die.
Over and over again this happened - until i read a post about one guy having the same problem.
He said to finish the main quest first - which i hadn't.
I was only missing the last quest to go to Sovngard, so I went and sent Alduin away and returned to Skyrim.
Then i went back to the outpost, spoke with Galmar and he told me to get the orders from Ulfric.

Buthcered the imperials instead of just running to Castle Dour, and then i went inside - leaving the two Oc.Agents outside (they didnt involve in the fight with the empire)

FINALLY - the quest went like it should. They talked and then Rikke and Tulius attacked Ulfric and Galmar.

So yeah, i think this bug may come when you havent completed the main questline first.
Visi Dec 4, 2019 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by Johny_Israel:
Hello. I also had this bug where Rikke and Tulius would just attack me and never die.
Over and over again this happened - until i read a post about one guy having the same problem.
He said to finish the main quest first - which i hadn't.
I was only missing the last quest to go to Sovngard, so I went and sent Alduin away and returned to Skyrim.
Then i went back to the outpost, spoke with Galmar and he told me to get the orders from Ulfric.

Buthcered the imperials instead of just running to Castle Dour, and then i went inside - leaving the two Oc.Agents outside (they didnt involve in the fight with the empire)

FINALLY - the quest went like it should. They talked and then Rikke and Tulius attacked Ulfric and Galmar.

So yeah, i think this bug may come when you havent completed the main questline first.
Sweet necro. idk what causes it exactly, but I just completed the Battle for Solitude yesterday successfully and bug-free whilst having barely any MQ progress. I haven't even seen the Greybeards on this character. Apparently that final confrontation can be quite buggy. Be sure you use the unofficial patch.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Battle_for_Solitude#Bugs
Dongald Jeffreys Sep 18, 2021 @ 11:51pm 
Even more necro here. I had this bug and what worked for me was walking outside Solitude's gate with Ulfric, then running on foot for a minute or two, away from Solitude. Then I fast traveled to Windhelm and the battle music stopped and Solitude was back on the map.
MossBurger Jun 16, 2022 @ 6:10am 
- Just got this glitch and managed to fix it (after a lot of failures). What worked for me was travelling to Markarth and waiting 15-in game days, then travelling to the Haafinger Stormcloak Camp and pressing a few of the miniature flags on the map in the large tent. I would try just doing that first before waiting the 15 days as I suspect that's what fixed it. Also, had no quests activated at the time in case that had something to do with it?

-No mods active, PC player.
Hope that helps, Good luck :)
Nightdagger Mar 28, 2023 @ 4:53pm 
Apologies for the necro, but I just got hit with this bug last night myself. Trying all of the fixes here did not work, but as a last ditch effort, I travelled to Windhelm, waited 30 days, then went to Katla's Farm and walked back to Solitude from there, and for some reason that broke me out of the bug and restored Solitude back to normal.

PC player, modded, using USSEP so beware, while it probably fixes some of the triggers for this, it doesn't fix all of them!

Again, sorry for the necro on this thread, but if it helps other people get out of this, it's worth it IMO.
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