Jarl Balgruuf and the Stormcloaks.

[Ghostee]

Hello. I am wondering if there is a mod out there for SE that allows Balgruuf to side with the stormcloaks? One thing I always hated about that storyline is that he sides with the Imperials, and I always feel like I've just betrayed him. There were always a couple of Jarls I liked from the Imperial side, but I'd rather not play that storyline with my current character.

I have never used mods before so Im also wondering; if I install a mod, will it work on current game saves? I'd like to avoid creating a new character just to experience mods if possible.

I think I recall seeing a simialar mod for the old skyrim, but I'm not sure if it still works, and I don't really care to mod that version at the moment.

[AC Denton]

Originally posted by Peregrin:

Hello. I am wondering if there is a mod out there for SE that allows Balgruuf to side with the stormcloaks? One thing I always hated about that storyline is that he sides with the Imperials, and I always feel like I've just betrayed him. There were always a couple of Jarls I liked from the Imperial side, but I'd rather not play that storyline with my current character.

He joins the opposite side you do, the battle of whiterun is neccisary in the core game. If you join the Imperials he will join the Stormcloaks.

Originally posted by Peregrin:

I have never used mods before so Im also wondering; if I install a mod, will it work on current game saves? I'd like to avoid creating a new character just to experience mods if possible.

Mods CAN work on current saves. Though a lot of the time they interfere and it's almost always best to start with a new save file.

Originally posted by Anthony Snow Campbell:

He joins the opposite side you do, the battle of whiterun is neccisary in the core game. If you join the Imperials he will join the Stormcloaks.

No, I remember that the jarl wouldn't actually choose a side until the Stormcloaks attacked, it was then that they and the Imperials fought them.The Jarl does not join the opposite side, because if you are an Imperial and defeat the Stormcloaks he does not get replaced by an imposter.

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by Anthony Snow Campbell:

He joins the opposite side you do, the battle of whiterun is neccisary in the core game. If you join the Imperials he will join the Stormcloaks.

No, he gets pissed off at you for turning traitor to him and Whiterun. He has a personal feud/disagreement with Ulfric and basically sides with the Imperials because he's forced to by Ulfric's aggressiveness. Either you bring Ulfric's axe to him, signalling that the time is coming for a decision, or you are an agent of the Empire and prove that Ulfric is getting ready to invade. Both force Balgruuf's hand.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Anthony Snow Campbell:

Originally posted by Peregrin:

Hello. I am wondering if there is a mod out there for SE that allows Balgruuf to side with the stormcloaks? One thing I always hated about that storyline is that he sides with the Imperials, and I always feel like I've just betrayed him. There were always a couple of Jarls I liked from the Imperial side, but I'd rather not play that storyline with my current character.

He joins the opposite side you do, the battle of whiterun is neccisary in the core game. If you join the Imperials he will join the Stormcloaks.

Um not quite, he joins imperials no matter which side you join, if you join the imperials he is still on imperial side. The battle for whiterun is always the imperials defending against the stormcloaks, if you are stormcloak you attack, if you are imperial you defend.

[SpeedFreak1972]

such a mod would be a nightmare, because the civil war questline is buggy as is however you add this in the mix it could bug the whole game. this is tied in so many other quests ... including the main quest.

[Nexim95]

Originally posted by Anthony Snow Campbell:

He joins the opposite side you do, the battle of whiterun is neccisary in the core game. If you join the Imperials he will join the Stormcloaks.

Have you even played Skyrim?

[The Maggot Guy]

Originally posted by Lion Ornstein:

Originally posted by Anthony Snow Campbell:

He joins the opposite side you do, the battle of whiterun is neccisary in the core game. If you join the Imperials he will join the Stormcloaks.

Have you even played Skyrim?

for 22 hours or so on oldrim and only 8 or sew on se apparently... So really no.

[dcain3456]

Jarl Balgruuf chose....poorly

[SpeedFreak1972]

Originally posted by dcain3456:

Jarl Balgruuf chose....poorly

well someone has to be jarl under empire rule ... you can't expect vignar to be the empire Jarl.

[BurningFalcon]

This mod is said to convice the Jarl to join the Stormcloaks, yet, according to the comments, it kills the questline.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/7020/?tab=posts