Is using Air Link bad?

[lost]

I have no real choice but to use air link, but whenever I do my FPS will fluctuate a lot 30 - 72 mostly being in the late 40s. I was wondering if there was any practical way to improve this. I would use a cable but they are expensive (also I play in my living room and my computer is upstairs). So any ways to improve FPS.

[carrotstien]

"I have no real choice but to use air link"

please clarify. If it's a question of regional pricing, we match prices. We'd much rather you play the game in an optimal way, than to play in a suboptimal way just to save money. Reach out to [e-mail] if that's the case and we'll work it out

[lost]

Originally posted by carrotstien:

"I have no real choice but to use air link"

please clarify. If it's a question of regional pricing, we match prices. We'd much rather you play the game in an optimal way, than to play in a suboptimal way just to save money. Reach out to [e-mail] if that's the case and we'll work it out

To clarify, I am asking if there is a way to improve FPS without buying a cable (which I could not use regardless). Because playing above 60fps is very realistic and very fun, I could lose hours. However below 60fps it becomes very choppy and frankly not fun, returning shots consistently and accurately becomes near impossible. My current headset is a Quest 2 128 (GB) (none of which is used). It might be due to my internet but I am not qualified in that area to judge, information about it:

DOWNLOAD - 34.49 (Mbps)
UPLOAD - 10.65 (Mbps)
LATENCY - 14 (ms)

My intuition tells me its most likely on my end but any advice would be appreciated. Cheers!

[carrotstien]

there may be things you do can...but why aren't you just playing it natively?

[lost]

Originally posted by carrotstien:

there may be things you do can...but why aren't you just playing it natively?

Can you explain what you mean by "nativley". I don't understand.

[carrotstien]

as in, playing on the game that is running on the quest, and not playing the game that is running on the pc, that is using the quest as a device onto which to project the visual information, and from which to gather user input and spatial positioning.

When you run the game on the pc, due to he ways the pc connects to the quest, the visual data needs to be encoded at the pc side, and then decoded on the quest side. This adds about 30ms overhead. This overhead significantly hurts tracking. Aside from this, a lot of other problems often arise.

What I am saying is that you should get the game from the oculus quest store for your quest, and you shouldn't try to play it from the pc. ...your pc should not be used in anyway to play the game if you are wearing a quest/quest2 on your head.

[lost]

Originally posted by carrotstien:

as in, playing on the game that is running on the quest, and not playing the game that is running on the pc, that is using the quest as a device onto which to project the visual information, and from which to gather user input and spatial positioning.

When you run the game on the pc, due to he ways the pc connects to the quest, the visual data needs to be encoded at the pc side, and then decoded on the quest side. This adds about 30ms overhead. This overhead significantly hurts tracking. Aside from this, a lot of other problems often arise.

What I am saying is that you should get the game from the oculus quest store for your quest, and you shouldn't try to play it from the pc. ...your pc should not be used in anyway to play the game if you are wearing a quest/quest2 on your head.

I buy all my VR games off of steam because I think it's going to improve the graphics of the game, because PC has always been best at handling graphically intense games. When I had seen the tiny Quest 2 I thought it would not be powerful enough to run VR games.

In terms of getting Eleven on my Quest 2... you could always throw me a key, if not I will continue playing it on SteamVR until I get angry again. Thanks for the advice.

[Sancheese]

Originally posted by carrotstien:

as in, playing on the game that is running on the quest, and not playing the game that is running on the pc, that is using the quest as a device onto which to project the visual information, and from which to gather user input and spatial positioning.

When you run the game on the pc, due to he ways the pc connects to the quest, the visual data needs to be encoded at the pc side, and then decoded on the quest side. This adds about 30ms overhead. This overhead significantly hurts tracking. Aside from this, a lot of other problems often arise.

What I am saying is that you should get the game from the oculus quest store for your quest, and you shouldn't try to play it from the pc. ...your pc should not be used in anyway to play the game if you are wearing a quest/quest2 on your head.

I'm confused, is your role in the Steam forums to convince people not to buy the game on Steam?

[carrotstien]

hi Sancheesiest. I'm the developer of this game, and I want users to play the game in the optimal manner. If you are playing the game through a pcvr headset, such as index, riftS, wmr/etc, steam is totally fine. If you are playing on a quest/quest, steam is not recommended due to the encoding/decoding overhead. Does that make sense?

[lost]

Originally posted by carrotstien:

hi Sancheesiest. I'm the developer of this game, and I want users to play the game in the optimal manner. If you are playing the game through a pcvr headset, such as index, riftS, wmr/etc, steam is totally fine. If you are playing on a quest/quest, steam is not recommended due to the encoding/decoding overhead. Does that make sense?

I'm also confused because I have been muted? Which means I am not playing the game optimally.

[carrotstien]

there are a lot of potential reasons for why your mic does not work. Please visit the discord so that the community or someone from the team can assist you with troubleshooting. Most of the time it's simply a permissions issue. Either grant permissions or revoke and provide mic permissions to the app

[lost]

Originally posted by carrotstien:

there are a lot of potential reasons for why your mic does not work. Please visit the discord so that the community or someone from the team can assist you with troubleshooting. Most of the time it's simply a permissions issue. Either grant permissions or revoke and provide mic permissions to the app

I have been muted for 17 days for "toxic language", which I think means ♥♥♥♥ talking. Therefore, if indeed it means ♥♥♥♥ talking then I would like to state why this is crappy:

First and foremost, ♥♥♥♥ talking is simply fun. It's a way to interact with other players in a light-hearted, banter-filled way. When done right, it can add an element of excitement and anticipation to the game.

Secondly, ♥♥♥♥ talking can be used strategically. By getting inside your opponent's head, you can gain a mental edge over them and ultimately improve your chances of winning.

And finally, ♥♥♥♥ talking can simply make the gaming experience more enjoyable for everyone involved. It can add an element of trash talk and competitiveness that can make the game more enjoyable and fun to play.

[carrotstien]

i have no idea why you have decided to discuss this on a forum post "Is using Air Link bad?"
as far as all of your reasoning as to why you think what you are doing is ok and even good - you have been reported by users. That means what you are doing is bothering people. I don't care what your opinion on life is, I and the moderation team isn't here to police your behavior from some universal standpoint. Curse all you want - when you know for sure that it's something your opponent is ok with. If you are not able to know when and if it would bother your opponent, then we mute you - as you can't be trusted with the privilege to talk with your your opponents.
If you still have concerns, please reach out to any store support and ask if you have some right to toxic language in an online experience. They'll tell you the same thing I tell you: your rights ends at the precise moment you start bothering other people.

[lost]

Originally posted by carrotstien:

i have no idea why you have decided to discuss this on a forum post "Is using Air Link bad?"
as far as all of your reasoning as to why you think what you are doing is ok and even good - you have been reported by users. That means what you are doing is bothering people. I don't care what your opinion on life is, I and the moderation team isn't here to police your behavior from some universal standpoint. Curse all you want - when you know for sure that it's something your opponent is ok with. If you are not able to know when and if it would bother your opponent, then we mute you - as you can't be trusted with the privilege to talk with your your opponents.
If you still have concerns, please reach out to any store support and ask if you have some right to toxic language in an online experience. They'll tell you the same thing I tell you: your rights ends at the precise moment you start bothering other people.

I honestly don't remember anyone coming to me to say that they were bothered by what I was doing. I believe that they missed the vital step of addressing their concerns with me directly. Instead, they went straight to reporting. I cannot be expected to know whether I'm bothering someone without them telling me so.

[carrotstien]

PS: i wanted to look up the reports against you, but I don't even see your account. So i cross checked which accounts that have been restricted for toxic language, with about 17 days left, and I see one

https://www.elevenvr.net/eleven/1065568

if that's you: you have 26 unique users report your for toxic language.

Clearly you can't be trusted with your mic. We'll be keeping an eye on you after the mic ban expires. If you continue, you'll get your mic banned permanently.


"I cannot be expected to know whether I'm bothering someone without them telling me so."

you can. In fact, 99% of users don't have a single report against them.


In the case where you were completely oblivious, now you know. That sort of language is not acceptable here.

[lost]

Originally posted by carrotstien:

PS: i wanted to look up the reports against you, but I don't even see your account. So i cross checked which accounts that have been restricted for toxic language, with about 17 days left, and I see one

https://www.elevenvr.net/eleven/1065568

if that's you: you have 26 unique users report your for toxic language.

Clearly you can't be trusted with your mic. We'll be keeping an eye on you after the mic ban expires. If you continue, you'll get your mic banned permanently.


"I cannot be expected to know whether I'm bothering someone without them telling me so."

you can. In fact, 99% of users don't have a single report against them.


In the case where you were completely oblivious, now you know. That sort of language is not acceptable here.

I know it was wrong and I'll try to do better. I'm sorry for any pain or discomfort I may have caused. I'll try to be more mindful in the future. You have made me aware of how my words can impact others and I'll try to be more mindful of that in the future. Thank you for giving me a chance to apologize and grow. Also where can I see the reports on that website?