Meadow
This topic has been locked
Shelter 3
This seems like the best place to to ask "Might and Delight Shelter" games. So Shelter 3. What should the main animal be? (I swear to god if someone says wolf...) I have been thinking a moose or elk. First it is a herbivore and in "Shelter" the badger is an omnivore and in "Shelter 2" our Lynx is a carnivore. Plus it will be fun to have it with multiplayer. "Meadow" looks ok to me but that's my opinion. Share your ideas in the comments! See ya next time!
< >
Showing 1-15 of 132 comments
friendly Oct 7, 2016 @ 8:08pm 
I believe there's a 'suggestions' section still up, maybe even a subforum in the Shelter 2 Steam page for this very purpose
Jynn Oct 7, 2016 @ 11:22pm 
i'm not sure about an entire game focused on herbivores, to be honest

For carnivores you have the challenge of keeping your cubs fed, and predators usually have longer time with their young than herbivores, which are quicker to develop and leave their parents (barring species like rhinos and elephants)

Though something elephant or rhino based would be cool, though predators that'd actually hunt them would be a problem then.

but anyways, herbivores would have food everywhere, you wouldn't have much of a challenge of keeping them fed, mostly just running from predators every time they'd show up

i myself would choose fox or a tiger =P
Hey your the guy that made that amazing Mia Herd screnshot from The Isle. Noice. But yeah make a good point. How bout twins as a deer (Not stealing from another post. WInk wink.)
Fox Soul Oct 8, 2016 @ 12:05pm 
I REALLY want Shelter 3 to be about foxes. They match with the theme so well: You aren´t on the top or bottom of the food chain, you are a carnivore and your cubs stay with you for a season or so.
Also foxes are my favorite animals (yeah, thats why my nickname is Fox Soul)

I wouldn´t pick a herbivore because you have food everywhere. I also wouldn´t pick wolves because there are already loads of tons of games with wolves and M&D would probably suffer from copy rights because of Wolf Quest.
Felis Alba Oct 9, 2016 @ 3:49am 
As much as I love wolves, I will have to agree that 1) They're overrated(I still love them anyways :/), 2) Wolf Quest, 3) It wouldn't "fit" the Shelter theme of a lone animal. I really do love them and a while ago I would like to see a Shelter game with wolves, but everyone is right about them and I have to reluctantly agree,

What would fit in an animal that not many people notice. Sometimes I forget that badgers even exist, and while felines are popular animals a lynx isn't typically the first one to pop into mind. Personally I though a bear would be pretty cool, but they're the top of the food chain and only really have to worry about other bears. Like Fox Soul said, foxes would be kinda cool but I think they're also in that category of being too popular like wolves(I'm sorry I really loves foxes too but they're popular...) and Jynn's idea of a tiger is freaking awesome(one of my top five favorite animals) but once again too popular, plus an apex predator :(

I would think of something like an ermine or martin. Not too noticeable, lower on the food chain but not too low(they're still predators). I'm not sure though... that's just my opinion.

I'm sorry... I just offended everyone on here :/
Fox Soul Oct 9, 2016 @ 4:41am 
Foxes aren´t popular at all! Say a good fox simulator game fox PC. That´s right: there isn´t one.
The only good games that have a foxes as playable animals are Ultimate Fox Simulator, for mobile and Seasons After Fall, which is linear and 2D.
So I think a shelter game with foxes would be nice, because many people still see foxes as a plague, and it wouln´t suffer from copy rights.

Another animal that can work is the caracal, but maybe it´s too similar to the lynx. Maybe a tasmanian devil? I don´t know, I can´t take the foxes out of my head :(
Pinkbunnybesos Oct 9, 2016 @ 4:51pm 
What about a roe deer, they are solitary, i think they live in North America and food i hard to find
Moooo Oct 9, 2016 @ 5:59pm 
Originally posted by Fox Soul:
Foxes aren´t popular at all! Say a good fox simulator game fox PC. That´s right: there isn´t one.
The only good games that have a foxes as playable animals are Ultimate Fox Simulator, for mobile and Seasons After Fall, which is linear and 2D.
So I think a shelter game with foxes would be nice, because many people still see foxes as a plague, and it wouln´t suffer from copy rights.

Another animal that can work is the caracal, but maybe it´s too similar to the lynx. Maybe a tasmanian devil? I don´t know, I can´t take the foxes out of my head :(

I think what they meant is that in culture foxes are popular, and that something that isn't as well-known could be a better choice.
Jynn Oct 9, 2016 @ 7:51pm 
i think the issue we'll run into is that if we keep the North American theme, it is going to get harder to find a creature to base a shelter game off of.

-herbivores - In general, wouldn't be hard to find food, and lose their young much ealrlier than carnivores, meaning the game in general will be easier / shorter.

Example is white tail deer. Babies are born in May-June, and are fairly self sufficient by winter, though stay with their parent for a bit longer. But that means you'd have 3 seasons to raise them and then it's over, and during the winter where food would actually be scarce they'd be self sufficient and feed themselves. The rest of the time, finding food wouldn't be hard unless the create specific food sources you have to eat, but that means you just walk around until you find them and eat them, rather than the thrill and challenge of a hunt.


-smaller than fox - take the weasel someone mentioned. your prey would consist of things smaller than you, so mice and the occasional rabbit. It'd be like Shetler 2 just with more limited options and the same predators, so i'm not sure how well that'd go because it'd just be a similar experience

-wolf - opens up pack options as well as larger prey (moose and such), and could still have predators (bear, cougar perhaps), but wolves are indeed a bit over dune in game media

-fox - similar experience to a lynx, so you'll run into the same issue as weasel and other small predators in that it's going to almost be a carbon copy lynx experience, just with slight adjustments. the only benefit i see to fox is that it is quite popular culturally and thus will still pull in interested fans who don't mind replaying similar elements simply because they can do it as a fox

now if we were to go outside of North America we'd have different animals, but ultimately the same experience.

If we go Africa, the Cheetah, Jackal, etc would still have a similar life style to lynx and might not pull in anything new experience wise.

-Apex predators like Lion or Tiger will have few predators other than others of their species and opportunistic smaller predators like hyenas, so might not be a good choice either due to the lack of threats to you yourself, as there was for the lynx and badger

-now a large, complex herbivore like elephants could be a very interesting experience, except for the fact your young wouldn't be in danger from much. Not many things hunt elephants, so you'd wind up with no real danger. Same for Rhino.

so to sum up...i don't know what they can do for a new shelter game and still provide a new experience, but at least going with foxes would draw an interested crowd and still make sales
Last edited by Jynn; Oct 9, 2016 @ 7:52pm
Felis Alba Oct 14, 2016 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by MissAmargasaurus:
I think what they meant is that in culture foxes are popular, and that something that isn't as well-known could be a better choice.
Precisely(did I even spell that right? XD)

Also I was thinking specifically of the pine martin.
Last edited by Felis Alba; Oct 14, 2016 @ 6:12pm
SchericT Oct 19, 2016 @ 7:12am 
What if Shelter 3 was about beavers? It would be a fresh style thats different enough from Shelter 2, but can still about raising a litter. Now eventhough beavers are herbivores, they still need to hunt.... for trees! Thinking about how a game like this would work, a pregnate beaver and her mate looking for a suitable stream for a dam and lodge, the mate being killed by a lynx (a recurring antagonist?), and the changing enviornment a beaver pond would create.... it would be really cool.
StarLight Oct 19, 2016 @ 11:35am 
if you hadn't noticed the shelter series is based on lonesom woodland animal... i for one think the shelter series should expand alittle... maybe a leopard... but i have to agree with foxes i just said leopard cause there avoid so much in games and i LOVE leopards, espacially the snow leopard and panther LOVE THEM so i, for one, think a leopard would be grate, yet again thought it isn't a woodland creature...OMG i just remembered, what if they did a raccoon, i know they usually live in the trees but it would still be cool plus a a sertain age of the babies they actually stay mostly in logs...my main hope is leopard but umm its most likly if anything going to be a fox...
LittleWolfle Oct 19, 2016 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by StarLight:
if you hadn't noticed the shelter series is based on lonesom woodland animal... i for one think the shelter series should expand alittle... maybe a leopard... but i have to agree with foxes i just said leopard cause there avoid so much in games and i LOVE leopards, espacially the snow leopard and panther LOVE THEM so i, for one, think a leopard would be grate, yet again thought it isn't a woodland creature...OMG i just remembered, what if they did a raccoon, i know they usually live in the trees but it would still be cool plus a a sertain age of the babies they actually stay mostly in logs...my main hope is leopard but umm its most likly if anything going to be a fox...
It would be so fun to climb trees as a leapord...just wanted to throw my two cents in lol.
Fox Soul Oct 20, 2016 @ 5:46am 
I don´t know... Maybe another type of predator... Raccons can be good, but what about a falcon? maybe a seal? I don´t know but I think the free flight or swim mechanic can be interesting for a shelter game. Imagine: as a falcon you have to teach your babies to fly before they leave the nest, and this could be a dangerous act, because if you don't do it right your babies are going to fall to death or something like this.

As a seal you have to avoid drowning, freezing and countless fearsome predators in the lonely, cold ice plains. Sounds suitable, no?
Last edited by Fox Soul; Oct 20, 2016 @ 5:46am
Lammergeier Oct 25, 2016 @ 5:10am 
I know you guys are always like "no" to apex predators, but they have a hard enough time rearing their young. In a Shelter 2 discussion about this same topic, I mentioned a Polar bear for Shelter 3 (if there ever will be one), because Polar bears have it hardest, I would think, for apex predators.
Other bears, travelling during the melting season, and the struggle to find food. And, if it's possible, to go down swimming underwater, hunting for fish. In the water, you'll be in danger yourself. Don't forget orcas, guys!
Anyway, those are all the dangers I can think of off the top of my head ;3
Last edited by Lammergeier; Oct 25, 2016 @ 5:11am
< >
Showing 1-15 of 132 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Oct 7, 2016 @ 7:58pm
Posts: 132