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MaiyagyGery Dec 27, 2024 @ 1:55am
Which is the hardest souls-like for you?
Excluding FromSoftware's which Souls-like the hardest for you?

Recently i played:
1. Steelrising - Too easy for me.
2. Lords of The Fallen (2014) - The worst camera works so far but the game kinda fair.
3. Mortal Shell - The hardest in the beginning for me, but gets easier once you got Smoldering Mace and level up a bit.
4. The Surge 1 - The worst level design in a souls-like game for me, and no maps or quest tracker.
5. The Surge 2 - So much better than the OG, well designed boss fight and the most balanced difficulty souls-like so far, not too hard not too easy and the NG+ is awesome, bad final boss, and still bad level design and no quest tracker.
6. Hellpoint - Basically Dark Souls 3 at home but with bad level design and bad graphics.
7. Lies of P - Great souls-like.
8. Nioh 1 - Hard at the beginning easier later.
9. Nioh 2 - Better and Harder than Nioh 1.

Which one the hardest for you? :D
Last edited by MaiyagyGery; Jan 20 @ 5:57am
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Senki Dec 28, 2024 @ 6:02am 
well idk they're all similar in difficulty for me

I didn't play all of them, I mainly only play the bigger budget ones so I never touched mortal shell or the surge

Wo Long in the dlcs gave me the most trouble out of any of them. Never finished Nioh 1 but Nioh 2 was pretty easy even in the dlcs.
MaiyagyGery Dec 28, 2024 @ 6:11am 
Originally posted by Senki:
well idk they're all similar in difficulty for me

I didn't play all of them, I mainly only play the bigger budget ones so I never touched mortal shell or the surge

Wo Long in the dlcs gave me the most trouble out of any of them. Never finished Nioh 1 but Nioh 2 was pretty easy even in the dlcs.
I see, you gotta try The Surge 1, 2 and Mortal Shell, i think it'll give you some trouble and i agree Nioh 1 is too easy, i dunno about Nioh 2 though.
Gotta try Wo Long later i guess, thanks for your reply.
Senki Dec 28, 2024 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
Originally posted by Senki:
well idk they're all similar in difficulty for me

I didn't play all of them, I mainly only play the bigger budget ones so I never touched mortal shell or the surge

Wo Long in the dlcs gave me the most trouble out of any of them. Never finished Nioh 1 but Nioh 2 was pretty easy even in the dlcs.
I see, you gotta try The Surge 1, 2 and Mortal Shell, i think it'll give you some trouble and i agree Nioh 1 is too easy, i dunno about Nioh 2 though.
Gotta try Wo Long later i guess, thanks for your reply.

idk they don't seem like something I would like and there are more interesting ones coming out this year

btw Wo Long's base game is very easy, only the DLCs have some pretty hard bosses. In case that matters for whether or not you want to play it.
MaiyagyGery Dec 28, 2024 @ 6:00pm 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
I see, you gotta try The Surge 1, 2 and Mortal Shell, i think it'll give you some trouble and i agree Nioh 1 is too easy, i dunno about Nioh 2 though.
Gotta try Wo Long later i guess, thanks for your reply.

idk they don't seem like something I would like and there are more interesting ones coming out this year

btw Wo Long's base game is very easy, only the DLCs have some pretty hard bosses. In case that matters for whether or not you want to play it.
I mean it's winter sale right now and you can get all the games i mentioned above for dirt cheap, why don't give it a try and don't hate the game too early, it's actually interesting later.
anyway what is the "more interesting ones" game you mentioned above?
I see, so i would need to play the DLC too for the hard bosses, noted.
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
Originally posted by Senki:

idk they don't seem like something I would like and there are more interesting ones coming out this year

btw Wo Long's base game is very easy, only the DLCs have some pretty hard bosses. In case that matters for whether or not you want to play it.
I mean it's winter sale right now and you can get all the games i mentioned above for dirt cheap, why don't give it a try and don't hate the game too early, it's actually interesting later.
anyway what is the "more interesting ones" game you mentioned above?
I see, so i would need to play the DLC too for the hard bosses, noted.
Im not to sure in regards to comparing difficulty across a broad spectrum of souls likes as it doesnt matter a whole lot to me but another crabs treasure, jedi fallen order and nine sols are all great, wouldnt say any of them are too hard but all very enjoyable in their own ways, some being more soulslike than others
MaiyagyGery Dec 29, 2024 @ 12:17am 
Originally posted by TWEAKER TWEAKER PUMPKIN EATER:
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
I mean it's winter sale right now and you can get all the games i mentioned above for dirt cheap, why don't give it a try and don't hate the game too early, it's actually interesting later.
anyway what is the "more interesting ones" game you mentioned above?
I see, so i would need to play the DLC too for the hard bosses, noted.
Im not to sure in regards to comparing difficulty across a broad spectrum of souls likes as it doesnt matter a whole lot to me but another crabs treasure, jedi fallen order and nine sols are all great, wouldnt say any of them are too hard but all very enjoyable in their own ways, some being more soulslike than others
aha i'm very curious about another crabs treasure.
is jedi fallen order a souls like though?
Senki Dec 29, 2024 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
anyway what is the "more interesting ones" game you mentioned above?

Wuchang fallen feathers and The first Berserker Khazan

There's also Vindictus Defying Fate which I'm not sure if it's a soulslike yet but it looks cool
MaiyagyGery Dec 29, 2024 @ 2:53am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
anyway what is the "more interesting ones" game you mentioned above?

Wuchang fallen feathers and The first Berserker Khazan

There's also Vindictus Defying Fate which I'm not sure if it's a soulslike yet but it looks cool
I see, thank you for the information
deeper Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Wuchang fallen feathers and The first Berserker Khazan

There's also Vindictus Defying Fate which I'm not sure if it's a soulslike yet but it looks cool

Not heard of any of them, thanks, they look promising.
Last edited by deeper; Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:58am
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
Originally posted by TWEAKER TWEAKER PUMPKIN EATER:
Im not to sure in regards to comparing difficulty across a broad spectrum of souls likes as it doesnt matter a whole lot to me but another crabs treasure, jedi fallen order and nine sols are all great, wouldnt say any of them are too hard but all very enjoyable in their own ways, some being more soulslike than others
aha i'm very curious about another crabs treasure.
is jedi fallen order a souls like though?
from what ive seen yeah, closer to sekiro tho
MaiyagyGery Dec 29, 2024 @ 10:14pm 
Originally posted by TWEAKER TWEAKER PUMPKIN EATER:
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
aha i'm very curious about another crabs treasure.
is jedi fallen order a souls like though?
from what ive seen yeah, closer to sekiro tho
welp i played fallen order, it's just not as hard as souls-like but some feels like that indeed.
Balthasar Gelt Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:00pm 
I mean you're talking to people who cherish the Nioh series so far after it was modern. Meaning they're cultured when it comes to Soulslike/Masocore (and generally quite handsome/pretty).

That in mind, Steelrising, Lords of the Fallen, Mortal Shell, The Surge 2, and Hellpoint are "we have Souls at home" . They imitate vaguely, but don't nail the formula or iterate it on it BETTER. They certainly try to bring new flair to the genre, but that only works when you do the core parts right (like Sekiro/Bloodborne).

Lies of P is pretty great, only played a couple hours though. Surge 1 was also mechanically pretty satisfying, whereas in the sequel they made everything kinda floaty and less exact IMO.

So in general my answer is... YES.
Balthasar Gelt Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
Originally posted by TWEAKER TWEAKER PUMPKIN EATER:
from what ive seen yeah, closer to sekiro tho
welp i played fallen order, it's just not as hard as souls-like but some feels like that indeed.
Started promising but my god it became tedious. Also, Cal's mentor had some crazy bulging eyes that freaked me out. I like that actress though, she's great. But she was giving me the stink-eye with both eyes mang. Shidd was unseemly.
MaiyagyGery Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:42pm 
Originally posted by Luigi "Lisan al Gaib" Mangione:
Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:
welp i played fallen order, it's just not as hard as souls-like but some feels like that indeed.
Started promising but my god it became tedious. Also, Cal's mentor had some crazy bulging eyes that freaked me out. I like that actress though, she's great. But she was giving me the stink-eye with both eyes mang. Shidd was unseemly.
indeed, it was too generic too for me, and the cal's girlfriend is awesome too lol.
i have never finished Sekiro, parry style is just not for me. I dont know why, but i cant never get properly the parry timing, in any game. Second place probably wo-long, but i have still enjoyed and finished it.
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