nioh (1 or 2) vs sekiro

[heime2003]

what do u think of each game? could u evaluate two games on combat, difficulty and story ect?

[HighLanderPony]

I played Sekiro and am playing Nioh (1) now.
Story is servicable in both but less linear in Sekiro.
I like the combat in Sekiro better but it's still really good in Nioh, easily the best part of the game. In both games, it's snappy, responsive, and scales with player skill.
Sekiro is overall fairer than Nioh but in Nioh you can make up for that by getting levels or better gear. In Sekiro you can't stat grind. You still have ways to strengthen your character but not in the RPG/Diabloish way of Nioh.
Both can be tough and required of me to "get it" before they became more enjoyable and less frustrating than they initially felt.
Both are great in their own way.

[Wasler]

Just personal oppinion, but Nioh >>> Sekiro.
Sekiro is just "enemy movement/attack learning" until it gets boring. In Nioh you also have the opportunity to get better weapon+stats (grind), if you need it.

[David Hashougeki]

On PS4 I played Nioh 1 for 3000 hrs and Nioh 2 so far 150ish hrs. Sekiro I roughly played for 300 hrs. The playtime is supposed to show you that I know what I say about Nioh but I might not be qualified to comment on Sekiro to a comparable extent.

Without spoiling anything, you can say that Nioh is a rather accurate depiction of feudal Japan's history (minus the mythological aspects which obviously make up the fictional parts of the plot) while Sekiro is a rather full on fiction. Nioh is somewhat cliché heavy (albeit enjoyable imo) while Sekiro fascinates with more mystery - typical From Software stuff.

Combat in Nioh is much more diverse but the actual damage balance seems very arbitrary. Sekiro honestly boils down to pattern memorization to its fullest extent: parry, parry, parry, take away one full bar once the meter is full. However, you could argue that all third person actiong games come down to this, including Nioh. But in Nioh you have much more room to breathe while being able to add a personal approach to your playstyle.

Sekiro is the harder game in the long run since Nioh allows you to go for cheese builds (I strongly recommend to not go for these builds since they trivialize any fight to the point of you only collecting loot. In the end, everyone should play however their heart desires.)

Nioh has much more longevity but can feel stale, if you do not enjoy Diabloesque grinds for loot.

In Nioh you select missions and get thrown into that linear level. Sekiro is open and interconnected just like the other recent From Software games.

They aren't really comparable since they share hardly any common aspects besides the setting and the most basic third person action traits.

[Dark3nedDragon]

Having watched the (entire) playthroughs of Sekiro, which is an amazing game, but I bought Nioh 2, that should tell you enough.

Nioh 2 has Character Customization, pretty different system and gameplay wise, although both are pretty difficult 3rd Person Hardcore Action RPG's. Nioh 2 focuses more on the Diablo-esque looting, with an RPG system more akin to old-school games.

Nioh 2 can be pretty fun, very frustrating at times, so can Sekiro.

I'd say that you should pick what you are interested in, Nioh 2 is PS4 only, Nioh is a bit older (though from what I hear it is pretty good), and Sekiro is also a great option too.

I'd suggest picking up Sekiro on sale, or discounted if you're going to grab it.

[heime2003]

Postat inițial de Satan:

Having watched the (entire) playthroughs of Sekiro, which is an amazing game, but I bought Nioh 2, that should tell you enough.

Nioh 2 has Character Customization, pretty different system and gameplay wise, although both are pretty difficult 3rd Person Hardcore Action RPG's. Nioh 2 focuses more on the Diablo-esque looting, with an RPG system more akin to old-school games.

Nioh 2 can be pretty fun, very frustrating at times, so can Sekiro.

I'd say that you should pick what you are interested in, Nioh 2 is PS4 only, Nioh is a bit older (though from what I hear it is pretty good), and Sekiro is also a great option too.

I'd suggest picking up Sekiro on sale, or discounted if you're going to grab it.

i liked nioh's setting, loots and character progression while i hated its clunky combat. sekiro had decent story though

[Ebon Wolf]

Sekiro genuinely tests my skills. I still like Nioh better because of the character control. Switching between stance, parries, weapons, etc. Only thing that kills the fun is the looting n crap. This game really should have been Onimusha 4. Nioh just isn't a Souls game and can't be compared.

[Ebon Wolf]

Postat inițial de Kobe Johnson:

On PS4 I played Nioh 1 for 3000 hrs and Nioh 2 so far 150ish hrs. Sekiro I roughly played for 300 hrs. The playtime is supposed to show you that I know what I say about Nioh but I might not be qualified to comment on Sekiro to a comparable extent.

Without spoiling anything, you can say that Nioh is a rather accurate depiction of feudal Japan's history (minus the mythological aspects which obviously make up the fictional parts of the plot) while Sekiro is a rather full on fiction. Nioh is somewhat cliché heavy (albeit enjoyable imo) while Sekiro fascinates with more mystery - typical From Software stuff.

Combat in Nioh is much more diverse but the actual damage balance seems very arbitrary. Sekiro honestly boils down to pattern memorization to its fullest extent: parry, parry, parry, take away one full bar once the meter is full. However, you could argue that all third person actiong games come down to this, including Nioh. But in Nioh you have much more room to breathe while being able to add a personal approach to your playstyle.

Sekiro is the harder game in the long run since Nioh allows you to go for cheese builds (I strongly recommend to not go for these builds since they trivialize any fight to the point of you only collecting loot. In the end, everyone should play however their heart desires.)

Nioh has much more longevity but can feel stale, if you do not enjoy Diabloesque grinds for loot.

In Nioh you select missions and get thrown into that linear level. Sekiro is open and interconnected just like the other recent From Software games.

They aren't really comparable since they share hardly any common aspects besides the setting and the most basic third person action traits.

Lol at Nioh being accurate.

[Mayheim]

They are both good games but you can get a lot more playtime out of Nioh than Sekiro.

[Pnume]

It's like comparing a 3 star restaurant (Sekiro) and a Fast Food (Nioh).

Nioh does the job somehow, it has some redeeming qualities but it is unrefined, full of cheap stuff and re-used content ad nauseum. This game could have been 5 time smaller with the same amount of unique content and be better for it.

The bosses in Sekiro are light years away in term of design especially if you play them agressively. They feel very much alive with the way they react to your approach and be really intense if you stay in their faces.

A lot of bosses in Nioh are just whiff punish feast. If you love running around pocking the boss then run again you will love it I gess. I find that kind of gameplay boring. There are maybe a few nice ones but none are memorable.

The guard is also pretty stupid. It does reduce your ki so you have to manage that and some attacks go through it but it's a pretty lame mechanic overall. Doesn't matter where the attack come from. You keep the button down and even an arrow from the back will bounce of you like you are made of steel. The dodge on the other hand is seriously hazardous to use. Hitboxes are worse than dark souls 1 and the game punish you for using it most of the time. Again pretty lame IMO.

Oh this game drown you in loots too. Some people love that. Personnally I don't enjoy sorting out clutter.

[AscendedViking7]

I prefer Sekiro in all 3 aspects. :P

[David Hashougeki]

They aren't comparable though (besides basic third person action games). I strongly prefer Nioh, but, honestly, I have only recommended Nioh once to another player.

If you want recommendations between Sekiro and Nioh 1, then I'd easily suggest Sekiro. If you are planning to go for Nioh 2 vs Sekiro, then it's more or less a draw (highly subjective utterance of my opinion). Nioh 2 is almost identical with minor additions and polish that makes it so much better than Nioh 1.

If money and, more importantly, time is not the issue, then get both since they both feel vastly different.
Sekiro excited me more since I deeply enjoy the From Software style, but Nioh I like better and play more.

[optimocelestial]

And in my opinion, Nioh 2 is the best Souls-esque title in the history of since the beginning. Then Bloodborne, then Nioh 1. And it will be Nioh 2 until Nioh 3 comes out and so on until eternity.

Team Ninja polished this game like that toy-fixer guy from Toy Story 2. 90's and 00's kids know who I'm talking about.

I was able to do all this even before I decided what build I wanted to try. Sekiro cool, but that game got ya'll boys lookin' like a pretzel man until you start buying them skills.

[..::RS::..]

Postat inițial de heime2003:

what do u think of each game? could u evaluate two games on combat, difficulty and story ect?

I pre-order sekiro and I have 3 hours on that, The movement/combat sucks tbh. I don't feel it responsive enough. And the game sometimes wants to be hard "just because why not?", there isn’t a consistent difficulty like in Nioh 1, where even a random dude can make you his ♥♥♥♥♥ if you are not thinking.

[heime2003]

Postat inițial de ..::RS::..:

Postat inițial de heime2003:

what do u think of each game? could u evaluate two games on combat, difficulty and story ect?

I pre-order sekiro and I have 3 hours on that, The movement/combat sucks tbh. I don't feel it responsive enough. And the game sometimes wants to be hard "just because why not?", there isn’t a consistent difficulty like in Nioh 1, where even a random dude can make you his ♥♥♥♥♥ if you are not thinking.

ive been drawned more to nioh than sekiro becuz of setting but both is very clunky in combats