I dislike bossfights in this game

[FreshPrinceOfPine]

This may be my only gripe I have with the game.I absolutely love the combat/setting/everything else in nioh, but I just really don't like bossfights. I enjoy fighting all the enemies and even the really difficult ones up to the boss gate, but I am fighting the deformed cat spirit, and I have yet to fight a boss that I enjoyed playing against. I don't really know what it is. I can appreciate the design choices and I know what makes a boss fight "good", but to me it just feels like a chore at the end of a main mission. It's not even that I don't like them bc I die to them a lot, every run up to the boss i just dread the upcoming fight

[Amigo]

Try a different build/weapon maybe. I've started a new game with a ninja build. I gotta say normal difficulty is a breeze. I kill bosses with ninjutsu easy peasy.

[Mike]

I have the opposite feelings for the boss fights because I love almost all of them besides the some of the duel bosses.

I really like the down to earth feel to them when compared to say darksouls bosses which are more like huge epic battles.

Do I die a lot to some bosses? of course but I feel over coming bosses in Nioh feels that much better because you have to really master the stamina and stance switching mechanic especially for udachi players where ki is precious.

[Witcher]

Same as OP except action arcade fans love them boss fights ;)

Did Return of the Gourd with Karn in Yokai Realm with a Companion, and kept dying when the 3 bosses came out. Then when she went in alone, she completed it except there were hubby and wife bosses only - Obsidian is added for 2 players only.

[FreshPrinceOfPine]

Amigo původně napsal:

Try a different build/weapon maybe. I've started a new game with a ninja build. I gotta say normal difficulty is a breeze. I kill bosses with ninjutsu easy peasy.

I typically use a spear in low stance just bc i feel monkey flip is good for dodging quick attacks and confusing the AI. Should I be swapping stances a bit more? And I feel like my kusarigama is kinda useless since the quick attacks don't stunlock and the ranged attacks take too long

[Witcher]

Whilst Low stance is good for dodging and uses less Ki, I find it doesn't do much damage, and since I'm not good at switching stances in combat I stick to Mid stance which I find is a good balance.

Thing with Nioh bosses is you can't be too greedy with attacks for your first run thru - you hit 2 or 3 shots and back away, rinse and repeat.

[Shoebsy]

You complain a lot and you claim you know what a good boss is..
But you say absolutely nothing about it?
So what.. you dislike the design choice of 1 boss? so you dislike all the bosses?


If you just dislike boss fights for whatever reason, that's fine.. But you should at least be able to suggest what they can do better for you. be it design or rarity or so on.


The only boss fight I actually dislike, is The DLC's cursed bird, That screams like an elephant. and that's because of the limited moveset and generally uninteresting challange about it.

White Tiger is personally pretty fun for me and I'd feel maybe a bit better if it replaced Oniyakori (Spelling?) The first boss..

White Tiger teaches a lot of lethal moves (lazors, combo'ing claw swipes, Tail grapple move) that if you notice them, they're very easy to dodge and get a good few hits in. If a few damage and health values were swapped, it'd be perfect for gameplay.. terrible for thematics.

Oniyakori has basic attacks and telegraphes his moves, And basically invites you to shove your tip into his rear end during many of this attacks.. Which is great for a new player, but I don't considering him more than a "Mid-boss" who just happens to be at the end of a major mission.

Also. I guess that's how the game treats him too. soooo

[Witcher]

White Tiger is fast and far reach when he jumps for first play thru. Can't remember if I summoned a visitor for help for first play thru but definitely got a visitor to help with the Twilight mission where I believe it has higher HP and/or damage.

If I'm having difficulty with a boss after dying multiple times, I will summon for help.

[Amigo]

I think one if new player mistakes is they stick to one stance and forget about other stances. Try to switch them, find which stance is good against which enemy/boss.

Odachi playstyle suggests you can switch stances during a combo. Like you start with low stance and then switch to high stance with a strong attack.

[DooG Is Eternal]

I didn't learn white tiger moves at all, just run around like a mad boi and wait for his laser. Go poke his crystal eye while his beaming and he becomes a white puxxy :/ .

[Happy Fun Cat]

For me, I really enjoyed most of the fights in the game. Honestly just really enjoyed the game. However, there are some bosses and missions in this game I hate with a passion.

Now, I liked just about every Yokai boss fight in the game. Some required me to fight 2 or 3 times my first time through, but I never found myself hating the fights as a whole, they are honestly fun. I never had problems with these bosses, and the ones I did manage to die on was due to ignorance or in the case of Umi, just falling to my death over and over again because I never learned my lesson. Same with the human fights/duels. They are challenging your first play through, but it made me a better player when I finally beat Warrior of the West, Li, ect ect.

However, LW humans most likely made me rage the most. Not because they are hard, some are, some arn't, but they are so damn annoying for me to fight. Now, Nobu I liked as a LW user, their fight was amazing for what it was and for the most part always enjoy fighting him.

Secondly, I really disliked nearly every boss fight in all the DLCs. They where not 'fun' in my opinion (I got a kick out of Sasuke, but didn't enjoy the fight). However, just like LW humans, there is 1 DLC boss fight I enjoyed, and that was Nine Tails. Coming off what I would consider my most hated boss fight up to that point, I was concern going into it, but when the fight started, I just loved it. It wrapped up what I considered something I painfully forced myself through into an end boss that made the experience almost worth it. Almost. DLC sucks.

As for missions, nearly every mission that required fighting 2 bosses at once I really disliked. Going through no cheese, no one shot my first play through doing those missions was like dragging my feet, and honestly was the reason I switched builds after I started the DLC.

[Witcher]

James D Bad RAger původně napsal:

I didn't learn white tiger moves at all, just run around like a mad boi and wait for his laser. Go poke his crystal eye while his beaming and he becomes a white puxxy :/ .

Think you are confused bet White Tiger and Nue? Nue is the one that shoots laser ... not White Tiger which tends to jump and claw and uses his tail like a spider monkey.

[DooG Is Eternal]

Witcher in Japan původně napsal:

James D Bad RAger původně napsal:

I didn't learn white tiger moves at all, just run around like a mad boi and wait for his laser. Go poke his crystal eye while his beaming and he becomes a white puxxy :/ .

Think you are confused bet White Tiger and Nue? Nue is the one that shoots laser ... not White Tiger which tends to jump and claw and uses his tail like a spider monkey.

Both shoot laser and becomes vulnerable when you poke them at the right spot.

[Happy Fun Cat]

Witcher in Japan původně napsal:

James D Bad RAger původně napsal:

I didn't learn white tiger moves at all, just run around like a mad boi and wait for his laser. Go poke his crystal eye while his beaming and he becomes a white puxxy :/ .

Think you are confused bet White Tiger and Nue? Nue is the one that shoots laser ... not White Tiger which tends to jump and claw and uses his tail like a spider monkey.

White Tiger does the same thing. Has a straight line beam attack, unlike Nue who goes from side to side.

[FreshPrinceOfPine]

Kiroshi původně napsal:

You complain a lot and you claim you know what a good boss is..
But you say absolutely nothing about it?
So what.. you dislike the design choice of 1 boss? so you dislike all the bosses?


If you just dislike boss fights for whatever reason, that's fine.. But you should at least be able to suggest what they can do better for you. be it design or rarity or so on.


The only boss fight I actually dislike, is The DLC's cursed bird, That screams like an elephant. and that's because of the limited moveset and generally uninteresting challange about it.

White Tiger is personally pretty fun for me and I'd feel maybe a bit better if it replaced Oniyakori (Spelling?) The first boss..

White Tiger teaches a lot of lethal moves (lazors, combo'ing claw swipes, Tail grapple move) that if you notice them, they're very easy to dodge and get a good few hits in. If a few damage and health values were swapped, it'd be perfect for gameplay.. terrible for thematics.

Oniyakori has basic attacks and telegraphes his moves, And basically invites you to shove your tip into his rear end during many of this attacks.. Which is great for a new player, but I don't considering him more than a "Mid-boss" who just happens to be at the end of a major mission.

Also. I guess that's how the game treats him too. soooo

I was not complaining about just white tiger, I was just providing a description as to where I was in the game so far. And you're right in that I didn't really provide details on my dislike for the bosses. Honestly it may just be me personally. They're typically fair and often times have a mix of hard to avoid moves to real telegraphed attacks plus the designs are really cool looking, but I can't describe why I don't like them. Like in dark souls I look forward to fighting artorias or the abyss watchers or in dragon age I love fighting the high dragons (ik they're completely different games, but still bosses nonetheless), etc. I guess it may have to do with the fact that a lot of the boss attacks do really high dmg so I find myself getting 1-2 shot often or stunlocked, which I understand is a part of the learning experience, but idk. Each to their own

[Witcher]

You are both right, @James D and @Happy Cat. I just forgot and don't remember White Tiger shooting beam laser as a visitor helping another player ... maybe I drained his Ki quick enough that he doesn't have enough to shoot lasers or he doesn't do it with close combat?