Nioh: Complete Edition

Nioh: Complete Edition

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vadaKkan Dec 19, 2017 @ 12:21pm
No autosaves, No checkpoints, Only shrines
The game is challenging and i like it, but without the autosave or checkpoints or manual saves its becoming frustrating. its taking all the beauty of this game away. There are no checkpoints before starting a boss fight.What a waste.
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Sleepy Neko Dec 19, 2017 @ 12:25pm 
Usually you can unlock shortcuts that leads directly from the closest shrine straight to the boss so you should have no problems getting back to the boss if you died.
Zukabazuka Dec 19, 2017 @ 12:43pm 
Shrines act as checkpoints really.
Witcher Dec 19, 2017 @ 12:57pm 
Shrines are usually located close to the boss room (just need to find it). Some bosses make it difficult for you to reclaim your guardian spirit. So, what frustrates me is when you are higher level, you need to get lots more amritas and if you die before reclaiming your guardian spirit, it's all gone in a puff :/
Cirnostyle Dec 19, 2017 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Witcher in Japan:
Shrines are usually located close to the boss room (just need to find it). Some bosses make it difficult for you to reclaim your guardian spirit. So, what frustrates me is when you are higher level, you need to get lots more amritas and if you die before reclaiming your guardian spirit, it's all gone in a puff :/
3 options: if you have a lot of amrita, grind the rest to level up before the boss, bring summoner's candles, and/or forge a silabar ingot between missions.
SG Dec 19, 2017 @ 1:42pm 
Ah, the good old days when games were really challenging. Some numbered tries that you lose and restart the whole game.

Before reaching the end point of the level look around and find the fastest way possible after opening nearest shortcut to a shrine. If you lose and return back to it just run to the boss. It's easy to fool and avoid enemies.
Witcher Dec 19, 2017 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by Cirnostyle:
3 options: if you have a lot of amrita, grind the rest to level up before the boss, bring summoner's candles, and/or forge a silabar ingot between missions.

1. If there's less than 100k before leveling, it's easy to grind a bit more but not when more is required.

2. Summoner's candle are rare. So, I prefer to use the Travel amulet except some bosses can be too fast to use them - e.g., White Tiger.

3. What's a silabar?
Edit: Nvm, I found out what it is and need to store amrita at the blacksmith but it won't store more during mission, right?
Last edited by Witcher; Dec 19, 2017 @ 1:54pm
Cirnostyle Dec 19, 2017 @ 2:30pm 
no, silabar ingots are just a way to 'bank' your amrita after missions with some loss. can be combined with 1. though
Ziron Dec 19, 2017 @ 6:11pm 
the shrines themselves ARE the checkpoints/autosave...
toasted Dec 19, 2017 @ 7:37pm 
Originally posted by n4nirmal09:
The game is challenging and i like it, but without the autosave or checkpoints or manual saves its becoming frustrating. its taking all the beauty of this game away. There are no checkpoints before starting a boss fight.What a waste.
this is false you have to find them because they are hidden, almost every dungeon in the entire game has 2-4 shrines before bosses
Idi Amin Dec 19, 2017 @ 7:57pm 
Originally posted by n4nirmal09:
The game is challenging and i like it, but without the autosave or checkpoints or manual saves its becoming frustrating. its taking all the beauty of this game away. There are no checkpoints before starting a boss fight.What a waste.
You're telling me, I actually beat a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boss, got to continue quest and my entire PC freezes, having me have to repeat the ENTIRE quest again.
Bravo devs.
Zyrconia Dec 20, 2017 @ 3:11am 
You are never further away from the boss than 1-2 full stamina bars of sprinting. Didn't happen once in any level.

You just need to find the appropriate shrine (some are hidden) and scout a good path. Those paths are always short and have either no enemies, or up to 3 enemies you sprint by.

This is an old school lesson learned form Dark Soul days. The game is not convenient in readily apparent way, you need to put a bit of work in it and the checkpoints actually turn out to be fine.

Never ever engage the boss as soon as you found him. Instead, backtrack to your nearest shrine and learn that path well. If you can't make it there in 2 stamina bars, try 3. If by 4, you didn't make it, you surely are heading for the wrong shrine.
Engels78 Dec 20, 2017 @ 3:20am 
Originally posted by Idi Amin:
Originally posted by n4nirmal09:
The game is challenging and i like it, but without the autosave or checkpoints or manual saves its becoming frustrating. its taking all the beauty of this game away. There are no checkpoints before starting a boss fight.What a waste.
You're telling me, I actually beat a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boss, got to continue quest and my entire PC freezes, having me have to repeat the ENTIRE quest again.
Bravo devs.

Nothing new... Like in Dark Souls bonfires ;) And in MANY games from consoles you do not have save files just checkpoints! And here is the same! So why this anger? :p
Oh and after Boss fight game remeber this and do not need to beat him again.
Last edited by Engels78; Dec 20, 2017 @ 3:22am
Aryend Dec 20, 2017 @ 8:13am 
Like many people said, I haven't found a single boss in the game that was further than a couple of sprints away (provided you explore enough and find the shortcuts).
That said I do have some different issues with the autosave system... Coming from Souls where you progress would be saved automatically and you would appear more or less where you were standing at when restarting the game, Nioh's save system seems to be more inconsistent, with less frequent saves. There's been many instances where I lost progress for quiting the game, for example I would finish a mission, do some stuff at the blacksmith (soulmatch, reforge, refashion etc...) then quit the game and when restarting load back to where I just finished the mission, losing all my reforged stats, refashions etc...
Last edited by Aryend; Dec 20, 2017 @ 8:15am
Zyrconia Dec 20, 2017 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by Aryend:
Like many people said, I haven't found a single boss in the game that was further than a couple of sprints away (provided you explore enough and find the shortcuts).
That said I do have some different issues with the autosave system... Coming from Souls where you progress would be saved automatically and you would appear more or less where you were standing at when restarting the game, Nioh's save system seems to be more inconsistent, with less frequent saves. There's been many instances where I lost progress for quiting the game, for example I would finish a mission, do some stuff at the blacksmith (soulmatch, reforge, refashion etc...) then quit the game and when restarting load back to where I just finished the mission, losing all my reforged stats, refashions etc...
I think the game saves only on shrines in missions.

As for on the map, it doesn't.

You need to select save.

Well, it does now after a reforge, but it didn't initially. Just to be sure, I always select save while on the main map.

I too don't fully trust them autosaves.
Aryend Dec 20, 2017 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Zyrconia:
I think the game saves only on shrines in missions.

As for on the map, it doesn't.

You need to select save.

Well, it does now after a reforge, but it didn't initially. Just to be sure, I always select save while on the main map.

I too don't fully trust them autosaves.
Yeah, I'll have to get used to saving manually. Has also saved my amrita a couple of times due to ragequitting though xD
Last edited by Aryend; Dec 20, 2017 @ 8:36am
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