How often do you switch melee weapons?

[Witcher]

Per the title, how often do you do it and when or for what purpose?

I'm currently using the Dual Swords with Kusarigama, and am finding it difficult to adjust or use different attack moves/controls bet the 2, not to mention how to allocate Samurai skill points to both :/

I started using the Kusarigama but now prefer the dual swords, and don't wanna buy another Book of Reincarnation to reskill until I know what are the benefits.

[Anatolius]

Not very often, my initial pick was Odachi + Dual Swords. which later change to Sword + Odachi

[SG]

I use a single sword as main (has better range than dual swords) and any heavy high damage weapon as secondary. I switch to the secondary with enemies that I run and hit-dash away and repeat. The main weapon is for combos. It is also good to switch to the heavy secondary to attack stunned enemies but that requires some practice and good reaction to master.

[pozertron]

I never switch, simply because i can't use anything other than Odachi. Every other weapon just feels off and i fail alot. Good thing there are 4 shortcut panels.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

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Having Weapons with different Elements and switching between the two.
Like How I have a Water Element Based Katana and a Fire Element Based Spear.
On Research Katana Eletric Based and Earth Base Spear.
Note: Yeah I main only these 2 weapo stance XD

Do you add element damage to weapons using items with Re-Forge?

Nah I just find weapons with Elements and Soul Forge them

[FatesVagrant]

At the moment I'm only investing in spear, I'm not far enough in to have points to really work on more than one since I want all the spear skills. The other weapon slot is for whatever I feel like at the time. I mostly switch weapons...just because I want to play around with a different weapon, plus it's easy points.

That said I do sometimes switch to sword in tight spaces that make using anything other than pokes annoying for spears. Kusarigama has lots of very fast hits (status weapon?) and variable range so I could see that being useful as secondary for specific situations.

[Giblix]

I choose the weapon I want for the build I'm playing. Then I start with that weapon + spear. Spear in early game is just too good not too use. It gives you some nice range and easy kills if your other weapon isn't an odachi hehe. As I progress the spear gets used less and less and I start using my choosen weapon almost exclusively.

So that means I use only 1 melee weapon type throughout the entire game after the first 40-50lvl's. The 2nd melee weapon I switch out for anything really. It depends what stats it offers. Melee slot 2 is purely there for stats that boost the overall build i'm playing. Meaning it can be any weapon type as long as it has lots of tasty stats, or lots of stat slots to re-forge into the ones I want.

Main weapon slot I switch out for a better version if I happen to find one. Then I immediately use whetstones too max out its familiarity.

I don't care about equipping weapons because they have different elemental types. You got talismans and such to put elements on your weapons. Late game you might want to reforge to get 1 element type on your weapon and synergize it with an element from talisman to create Discord. But thats for lvl 250-300+ when it starts to matter.

for Ranged I use a rifle and bow most of the time. Just like 2nd melee weapon the stats are most important and not the damage. The stats ahve to be supportive for the overall build. Even with sub-par damage output a bow takes out anything that doesn't wear head protection. Those that do wear head protection get shot by the rifle or hand cannon for an insta-kill. Rarely use a cannon/rifle to take an opening shot against large oni's/yoki's/bosses.

The really good players don't switch out tons of weapon types either. In most of the game it means you'd have to spread points all over the place and not maximizing damage output. In the late part of the game you have plenty of points to max out a lot, but even then you rarely max out all skills from all weapon types. Instead just keep putting points in the 3 skills at the bottom of your respective weapon to maximize output potential with insane numbers.

If I want to play dual swords instead of kurasigama I just start an entire new game on a new save. After playing the game for the first time with my Kurasigama, all that content goes really slow. You're oding it for the first time, have no idea how to beat bosses yet etc. But with my Odachi and Tonfa builds I did now. You can run through all the content so damn fast then. There really is no reason not to start a new game then.

[Talon Rose]

I take offense to "the really good players".
I never do and I manage just fine, can go from start to finish (non-DLC) in less than 10 deaths.
it just doesn't strike me as a thing I should do, spread around my limited skill points to 2 weapons so I can lol it up for no reason. Rather specialize on the one and learn all the micro-timings, ranges, etc.
Or I could switch to my un-trained weapon with the wrong stats for no reason :-P

[Kodiak]

well, u can buff yourself with one weapon (this chainthiny for example got some dmg buffs) and than switch to your other weapon for fighting

[Ginrikuzuma]

I'm mainly invested in my Kurasigama.

I used to use the sword back when I was forced to due to it being part of the Iga Jonin set. And while I got pretty damn good at parrying with Backwave II (and the occasional Water Shadow II) I missed my original secondary weapon the Tonfas.

Earlier in the week I did manage to get a Yasakani Magatama so I ditched the sword and went back to my tonfas.


I still mainly use the Kurasigama but I am using a steam controller so I do have it set to abuse Flash Attack and I do switch to Tonfas and back to Kuri every now and then.

For those that want to do something similiar with the gamepad what I did was on the right Grip I set 2 activators.
1) Start Press I had it do right bumper (to start the Ki pulse)
2) Release Press I had it do right bumper and Dpad Left

[HumaneKilling]

set purpose to each one of the two weapons that you will use, I would suggest to have one weapon as the normal weapon and the other as the living weapon weapon.
Normal weapon = sword and dual sword (both rely on their iai or the cross cut thingy but good for all general purposes, dual sword can break horns of onis). Spear is good in general (shove and spear rain) until way of the wise (skills like spearfall and chidori nerfed on higher diffs, wild spear's tracking nerfed overall). Tonfa and odachi (odachi is great in general, i only used the sarutobi gunstick tonfa where you get a explosion effect with some moves so i suck with it but tonfa has great stamina damage.)

LW weapon = kusarigama is the best when you have the right build (susanoo, izanami etc), odachi comes next for both yokai and humanoids (great range, good damage to stamina, moonlit snow is insane in LW), spear is like odachi but not as good for humanoids due to lower stamina damage to bosses such as tachibana muneshige (these enemies block most of the time and spear cannot get through their stamina as easily as odachi), but imo spear has better attacking angles in LW with horizontal swings where odachi has the weird near vertical swing while moving which can make it difficult to track smaller enemies, although not being able to guard break efficiently does suck a bit but dont get me wrong, spear wrecks large yokai bosses (wild spear and celestial spear). I haven't used the axe much but its also a very good LW weapon.

Spear/dual swords have reliable ways to break yokai horns spear shove/windstorm, I feel like dual swords are really fun and versatile when you know how to cross cut properly (charge the cross cut while moving).

in my honest opinion, stats dont make too much of a difference, im at lv750 and all my stats are flat out at 99, all weapons have damage scaling with three stats either way so the difference for dps in terms of stat scaling is absolutely minimal . What you really want is weapons with higher lvs and + values with good armor bonuses (lv320 + 150 sword has twice as much base dmg as a normal lv320 weapon with no + value). on top of that i really want to be able to use all weapons with one stat build, the damage difference is negligible and I can still one shot a lot of the bosses on WotN with kusarigama using renegade dragon.

That being said, i think your weapon choices are quite decent, dual swords for all general purposes and kusarigama for LW. If you are really short on samurai points, dont worry you get thousands of those at higher levels but atm for kusarigama just get bladespin/renegade dragon
and dual swords max sign of the cross, get god of wind (max or not up to you), water sword is good but clashes with windstorm and also ki pulse while dodging etc, this will be your go to weapon for most situations. I only started using kusarigama when i had a build for it (izanami+7 misfortune 8 hardships+god of war), from experience it might not be a great LW weapon without proper builds and hence i got through WotS to WotW with spear for most yokai bosses and occasionally odachi for humanoids (if they act like ♥♥♥♥♥ and block most of the time).

[Z-Boy]

Can't you go past 99 in stats when you cap at 750?

[awanderingswordsman]

Yeah you can go to 200 once you unlock way of the nioh. Stats above 99 provide absolutely pitiful bonuses to everything except attack scaling which seems to be linear with no fall off.

[Z-Boy]

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Yeah you can go to 200 once you unlock way of the nioh. Stats above 99 provide absolutely pitiful bonuses to everything except attack scaling which seems to be linear with no fall off.

Dang, do ninja capacity go up as well or caps at 40?

[awanderingswordsman]

Onmyo and ninja capicity don't increase from leveling those stats above 30 as far as I know. I don't actually use much jutsu so idk.

[Z-Boy]

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Onmyo and ninja capicity don't increase from leveling those stats above 30 as far as I know. I don't actually use much jutsu so idk.

I see, thanks