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RobroFriend 2018년 2월 6일 오후 2시 45분
any recommendations on how to improve my thrown weapon build?
So currently im rocking the 7 piece bonus Iga Set with Aya Komori as primary and Nekomata as my secondary spirit, all my armor pieces except gloves have inherited thrown weapon X2 = 100% thrown weapon damage x2. My gloves on the other hand have kunai/storm kunai - B rating, thrown weapon- 22%, and thrown weapon Ki damage. Right now im using a yasakani just so i can use tonfa as my main weapon and some other accesory that helps me round my x2% up to 100%, i have agility A, Ninjistu AA, consecutive attacks A.
can anyone give me any tips to improve this build? so far ive made it past Way of the Demon with ease but its sort of fallen very hard at Way of the Wise
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Shoebsy 2018년 2월 7일 오후 9시 48분 
Who asking for advice? If it's me. I like searching for stuff myself I rarely want to visit a forum until i'm done with the game.

If it's you.. Ask your butt-buddy Karn.. You seem to be a much more social-query focused person than results-query focused person.

If it's OP.. Idfk. Considering he asked for suggestion to better the build. that's all I left him with.
DooG Is Eternal 2018년 2월 7일 오후 10시 02분 
Kiroshi님이 먼저 게시:
Who asking for advice? If it's me. I like searching for stuff myself I rarely want to visit a forum until i'm done with the game.

If it's you.. Ask your butt-buddy Karn.. You seem to be a much more social-query focused person than results-query focused person.

If it's OP.. Idfk. Considering he asked for suggestion to better the build. that's all I left him with.
uncalled for personal assault :steamsalty:, i dun even chat with Karn much lol. But its ok.

u rarely wants to visit a forum doesn't stop others from recommending the bettert available specific solution/build, thats your preference and its nothing wrong.
Shoebsy 2018년 2월 7일 오후 10시 06분 
If I wanted to stop someone, I'd report them and that's it.

But it's not a better solution to have someone drugde though yet another conversation for such... Cut out the middle man and actually post results, which I did soooo
Seyren 'D' Windsor 2018년 2월 7일 오후 10시 13분 
Kiroshi님이 먼저 게시:
Who asking for advice? If it's me. I like searching for stuff myself I rarely want to visit a forum until i'm done with the game.

If it's you.. Ask your butt-buddy Karn.. You seem to be a much more social-query focused person than results-query focused person.

If it's OP.. Idfk. Considering he asked for suggestion to better the build. that's all I left him with.

I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to provide suggestions. But if you don't fully understand the mechanics of the game yourself, there's nothing wrong with looking at how the top players perform.

Also, bad advice even with good intentions will do more harm than good.

Would you ask a blind man (casual player) for directions? I don't think so.

The best performers in any industry start with the gold standard. No one tries to reinvent the wheel.

This might be a game, but casual or hardcore, the aim is still to get better at it.
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DooG Is Eternal 2018년 2월 7일 오후 10시 14분 
Kiroshi님이 먼저 게시:
If I wanted to stop someone, I'd report them and that's it.

But it's not a better solution to have someone drugde though yet another conversation for such... Cut out the middle man and actually post results, which I did soooo
if a good middle man can get me a better deal for my house, why not?
I just intro my buddy a good agent and his more than ever happier with the deal he gotten.

nothing to report, as i believe its just a matter of different perspective, i think we both should just chill for now.
RobroFriend 2018년 2월 7일 오후 10시 40분 
Kiroshi님이 먼저 게시:
Kiroshi님이 먼저 게시:

Body 15
Heart 72 this needs to go to 99 just to have much stronger Range Weapon Damage (Bow or Rifle in 1st Range Slot)
Stam 6 this is last to raise unless you decide on using a Yasakani and another piece of armor then raise this to meet the requirements unless you forge you're armor yourself
Str 6 this is last to raise same as above ^^^^^
Skill 99
Dex 99
Mag 37
Spirit 40

Onikiba Kusarigama (I use for the special effect rolls and set)
Change to Attack (Dexterity) A+. <<<<< rolled
Attack from Behind +22.8% <<< Inheritable
Ninjutsu Damage Bonus A+. <<<< rolled
Damage towards Raven Tenga

Oninamida Muramasa (set bonus)

Tate-ugachi Bow
Ranged Bulls-Eye Bonus
Damage to Revenants <<<<< rolled
Bow Damage (Long Range) <<<< rolled
Damage towards Yokai <<<< rolled
Agility Damage Bonus A <<<< rolled

Iga Helm: Thrown Weapon Damage x2 + 22.9% <<<<Inheritable
Iga Chest: Thrown Weapon Damage x2 +22.9% <<<Inheritable
Iga Gloves: Ninjutsu Damage Bonus (Shuriken) B <<< rolled, Ninjutsu Damage Bonus
(Storm Kunai) B<<< rolled, Thrown Weapon Damage x2 21.6%,<<<rolled, Thrown Weapon Ki Damage +22.9%<<<rolled, Unlimited Ninjutsu +4.7 <<<<Inheritable
Iga Pants: Thrown Weapon Damage x2 +22.9% <<<Inheritable
Iga Feet: Thrown Weapon Damage +22.9% <<<Inheritable

Fan: Ninjutsu Power +13, Thrown Weapon Damage +15.5%
Omamori Charm: Ninjutsu Power +8, Thrown Weapon Damage +16.3%

Ninjutsu Power 842

Guardians - 1st Gyokuto, 2nd Nekomata

Skills:
Spear - Third Rule of Thrusting - 3.

Ninja:
Shuriken 3, Shuriken Shooter, Thrown Blade Tech 3, Concealment
Kunai 3, Storm Kunai 3
Paralytic Groundfire 3
Groundfire 3
Sneak Attack
Quivermaker 3, Bowmaster 3
Dashing 3, Cloudrunner 3
Quick-Change 3, Dodging 3
Medicine Man 3
Snakebite 3, Endurance 3
Ninja Tool Mastery 3

Magic:
Weakness 3
Awakening
Sloth 3
Shadowround 3
Resistance Talisman 3
Incantation Mastery 3

Very High Damage
Melts Mobs and Bosses fast and easy in WotW
This Build is OP (^_^)

Here's what a google search got me in less than 2 minutes. It's pretty straight forward, because throwing weapons/damage is so limited in the game.
honestly the biggest difference in the build im seeing from mine is the gyokuto, and youre using full IGA set while im using a yasa magatama for set -1, so in other words you have bout 15% more weapon damage... but i guess ill give it a shot
RobroFriend 2018년 2월 7일 오후 10시 44분 
Seyren Windsor님이 먼저 게시:
Kiroshi님이 먼저 게시:
Who asking for advice? If it's me. I like searching for stuff myself I rarely want to visit a forum until i'm done with the game.

If it's you.. Ask your butt-buddy Karn.. You seem to be a much more social-query focused person than results-query focused person.

If it's OP.. Idfk. Considering he asked for suggestion to better the build. that's all I left him with.

I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to provide suggestions. But if you don't fully understand the mechanics of the game yourself, there's nothing wrong with looking at how the top players perform.

Also, bad advice even with good intentions will do more harm than good.

Would you ask a blind man (casual player) for directions? I don't think so.

The best performers in any industry start with the gold standard. No one tries to reinvent the wheel.

This might be a game, but casual or hardcore, the aim is still to get better at it.
o.o im completely lost why people are arguing on my discussion lmfao.. i dont mind people showing me videos of people's builds but the only reason i wouldnt care for them most of the time is cuz they either get THE god roll drop on an accessory with all the perfect stats or they spend literal hours forging/reforging and farming for gold for the best rolls on stats, and tbh im just looking for simple stats or set changes i can make to improve my build at least to finishing Way of the Wise
Conget 2018년 2월 7일 오후 10시 53분 
Just as information, the build in the video was assembled in marobashi WotN and I had only finetuned it a little bit in abyss.


Back to topic:

I would not recommend TWD dmg x2 to make it all the way to 100%, as its a waste of inheritable slot for something which the effect isnt very sigbificant. I would replace at least one with the regular TWD

Most people keep it at 80 % ( While I maintain 60% just to get another dmg buff, but its up to the player decide how he want to deal with it. Both are fine).

Further check, something you might have seen in the video, did you learned the spear skill: (First/second/third) rule of thrust ? It gives another bit of dmg.

Aya komori as GS: unless you really aim for attack from the back, otherwise I would suggest to use gyokota/Enku (Or switched in priorities of those two GS, depends on your ninjutsu).

Why not nekomata, you might have asked. Well, I did some research before and it surprised me as well that nekomata doesnt gives the best buff if you already have TWD in you gear.

Of course you can use tonfa, but dont forget that for the yasalani slot you actually sacrificed an accessoire slot (Unless your yasakani has good thrown weapon damage buff as well).

O yeah, make sure you use the title buffs on ninjutsu dmg as well.

About your increase consecutive dmg bonus on gear: I suggest to use Equipment lightness damage bonus in WotD, WotW instead. It is more rewarding as the dmg is already at max on first hits while consecutive needs to keep throwing, which you dont always have the time for it. If you want the increase consecutive mdmg bonus, grab the clan bonus Gamo instead


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RobroFriend 2018년 2월 7일 오후 11시 05분 
Conget님이 먼저 게시:
Just as information, the build in the video was assembled in marobashi WotN and I had only finetuned it a little bit in abyss.


Back to topic:

I would not recommend TWD dmg x2 to make it all the way to 100%, as its a waste of inheritable slot for something which the effect isnt very sigbificant. I would replace at least one with the regular TWD

Most people keep it at 80 % ( While I maintain 60% just to get another dmg buff, but its up to the player decide how he want to deal with it. Both are fine).

Further check, something you might have seen in the video, did you learned the spear skill: (First/second/third) rule of thrust ? It gives another bit of dmg.

Aya komori as GS: unless you really aim for attack from the back, otherwise I would suggest to use gyokota/Enku (Or switched in priorities of those two GS, depends on your ninjutsu).

Why not nekomata, you might have asked. Well, I did some research before and it surprised me as well that nekomata doesnt gives the best buff if you already have TWD in you gear.

Of course you can use tonfa, but dont forget that for the yasalani slot you actually sacrificed an accessoire slot (Unless your yasakani has good thrown weapon damage buff as well).

O yeah, make sure you use the title buffs on ninjutsu dmg as well.

About your increase consecutive dmg bonus on gear: I suggest to use Equipment lightness damage bonus in WotD, WotW instead. It is more rewarding as the dmg is already at max on first hits while consecutive needs to keep throwing, which you dont always have the time for it. If you want the increase consecutive mdmg bonus, grab the clan bonus Gamo instead


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so trade out guardian spirits for gyokuto primary and enku secondary. i have every single stat increase from all the skill trees. switch out one of my inheritables for base thrown weapon damage, and find some equipment lightness damage.
btw i am running points in magic for the obvious weakness shadowround sloth etc but im not sure if those debuffs scale higher after 20 points in magic
but tbh im pretty sure tho that having x2- 100% = double damage on every thrown weapon
Conget 2018년 2월 7일 오후 11시 16분 
Robro님이 먼저 게시:
Conget님이 먼저 게시:
Just as information, the build in the video was assembled in marobashi WotN and I had only finetuned it a little bit in abyss.


Back to topic:

I would not recommend TWD dmg x2 to make it all the way to 100%, as its a waste of inheritable slot for something which the effect isnt very sigbificant. I would replace at least one with the regular TWD

Most people keep it at 80 % ( While I maintain 60% just to get another dmg buff, but its up to the player decide how he want to deal with it. Both are fine).

Further check, something you might have seen in the video, did you learned the spear skill: (First/second/third) rule of thrust ? It gives another bit of dmg.

Aya komori as GS: unless you really aim for attack from the back, otherwise I would suggest to use gyokota/Enku (Or switched in priorities of those two GS, depends on your ninjutsu).

Why not nekomata, you might have asked. Well, I did some research before and it surprised me as well that nekomata doesnt gives the best buff if you already have TWD in you gear.

Of course you can use tonfa, but dont forget that for the yasalani slot you actually sacrificed an accessoire slot (Unless your yasakani has good thrown weapon damage buff as well).

O yeah, make sure you use the title buffs on ninjutsu dmg as well.

About your increase consecutive dmg bonus on gear: I suggest to use Equipment lightness damage bonus in WotD, WotW instead. It is more rewarding as the dmg is already at max on first hits while consecutive needs to keep throwing, which you dont always have the time for it. If you want the increase consecutive mdmg bonus, grab the clan bonus Gamo instead


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so trade out guardian spirits for gyokuto primary and enku secondary. i have every single stat increase from all the skill trees. switch out one of my inheritables for base thrown weapon damage, and find some equipment lightness damage.
btw i am running points in magic for the obvious weakness shadowround sloth etc but im not sure if those debuffs scale higher after 20 points in magic
but tbh im pretty sure tho that having x2- 100% = double damage on every thrown weapon

Thats the biggest issue of many kunai players has. Sure its fine to have double dmg on every twd, but just keep in mind you lose about 20% of the possible atk buff. Its you to decide how you want to play though.


Just keep in mind, if you ever going to try sanada thrust dmg, the weight might not be at your favor
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Master 2018년 2월 7일 오후 11시 24분 
Any decent healthy forum would encourage anyone to share their thoughts and opinions, and not be dominated a few elitist veterans.

A game forum is also a place for learning. For help with gameplay, improvements to builds etc.

As long as people are respected here, live and let live.

And being labelled as a butt friend when it's clear that I did not do anything is infuriating.
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