Skill magic? For what?

[YaseiChan]

Hi,

I'm new in Nioh from the souls series, and there I always was a dex with meelee only.

When I started Nioh I invested in life, heard, skill, and strength and so on. Everything wich is good for the damage I do.

But I often read that I should level up magic as well, that Ninjutsu and Onmyo is important.
But I'm confused, I don't see a tutorial about that in the game.


What is Ninjutsu?
What is Onmyo and how I use it?
Why should I level up magic when I don't see a weapon to cast any magic spell?
(Like I said, I'm used to the souls series only, and there magic is only for the spells I can cast using a special weapon)

[Rion]

By levelling up magic you can increase you magic capacity and learn some spells like 'decreasing enemy def', 'buff your weapon', 'buff your damage' and so on. Best thing is that all debuffs work on bossess so mastering magic can increase your damage drastically even if you are not dealing damage to enemies with spells directly. As for ninjutsu - i think it's not that important. It has some good skills here and there but if you are not going for a dedicated throwing build or something like that i'd suggest not to bother too much with this. Just be sure to grab passive skills like increased running speed from ninjutsu. To use spells/ninjutsu you have to prepare them at shrine and assign quick slots it kinda explained at dojo, just do some novice missions for ninja/mage.

[kalashnjkov21]

Ninjutsu is ninja stuff( throwing weapons, bomb, poison, stealth skill... etc), Onmyo is magic( works just like magic in other RPGs).
Why would u need a stave or magic weapon to cast spells while u can do it all by hands like Geralt?

[YaseiChan]

The ninjitsu/ninja I just found and have bind (I tested with this damage increase).
But how I cast magic spells?

[Morbis]

Omnyo is nice because you get a spell that slows down enemies which really helps. I also have unlocked skills that gives me amrita boost coupled with some floating swords which gives me high damage output and lets me charge my spirit gauge really fast.
And ninjitsu if you unlock it gives you the ability to respawn upon death.

[YaseiChan]

Slowly I get it by try out.
For example, I have some water buffs for my weapon in my inventory. I also can learn a "water buff skill" which I can equip which will be refilled on the shrine.
So, these Omnyo items are "free weapon buffs" it seems.

How I can get more buffs ready? Actually I can prepare only one.

[Kaizen]

Need to invest points into magic to increase your total Onmyo capacity which will allow you to ready more magics at the Ready Jutsu in shrine.

[Aluminum^1Haste]

Sloth breaks the game lol, I would suggest try boss fights without it first, and only use it if you're having trouble.
Also lightning debuff seems to stack with sloth to make your enemy move in slooooooooow motion.

[YaseiChan]

So, how many magic I need to be able to prepare 2 on "ready jutsu" (just as an example)? I don't find a list about.
I think it could work like the magic in dark souls, where you have one slot when your magic is on 10, the next when your magic is on 12 or 15 and so on.

[Kaizen]

The capacity cost is different for each spell, it shows you how much you need to ready it

[Rion]

Each spell takes different amount of your max spell capacity. Higher ranks of the same spell consume less capacity.

[YaseiChan]

Ya, but how increase the max spell capacity?

[Kaizen]

I told you, points in magic. You cap at 40 capacity until 99 points and 51 capacity at 200.

[YaseiChan]

I cannot look because I cannot upgrade right now. Each invest in magic will increase also the capacity by once?

Why this all is such complex. I just want to take the sword and begin fighting and not working for hours on equipment and stuff

[YaseiChan]

Anyway. By your replies and looking around, I slowly get it.

Thank you!

[YaseiChan]

Escrito originalmente por AluminumHaste:

Sloth breaks the game lol, I would suggest try boss fights without it first, and only use it if you're having trouble.
Also lightning debuff seems to stack with sloth to make your enemy move in slooooooooow motion.

So far I cannot get the sloth anyway, I have to finish some (for me unknown) missions first to be able to get sloth. So, on the first run, I have to do some bosses without sloth anyway.