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Catpuppy Dec 28, 2017 @ 6:26am
Inhabited Kodama Bowl Mystery
I've scoured the internet, but to this day it doesn't look like there's a definitive answer to what this consumable does. Does anyone know?
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Rogue Dec 28, 2017 @ 7:16am 
boost your selected shrine kodama bonuses once, or recharge the onsen bath if you used it.
Catpuppy Dec 28, 2017 @ 7:18am 
Does it work even if I have all the kodamas found? Will it make the 25% Amrita bonus stronger?
Rogue Dec 28, 2017 @ 7:28am 
A percent of a percent , same effect as the kodama bowl you get as a helmet called Kodama Blessing Power up. 25% boost gains 20% so the boost is now 25%x1.2 = 30%. One time use per mission.

However Bowl helmet can reach 30% @ 999 familiarity, so 25%x 1.3 = 32.5% bonus.
Sailing Dec 28, 2017 @ 8:07am 
I've tried throwing down 20-30 bowls at a hot spring and while it looked pretty cute, nothing happened. I've also done some testing with the oracle blessing and it had no effect - a specific enemy gave the same amount of amrita both before and after using a bowl.
NUDE TAYNE Dec 28, 2017 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by Rogue:
A percent of a percent , same effect as the kodama bowl you get as a helmet called Kodama Blessing Power up. 25% boost gains 20% so the boost is now 25%x1.2 = 30%. One time use per mission.

However Bowl helmet can reach 30% @ 999 familiarity, so 25%x 1.3 = 32.5% bonus.

How do you know this?
Sailing Dec 28, 2017 @ 7:47pm 
It's unfortunately very easy for misinformation to gain traction over the internet. The best we can do is to doubt what we read and verify for ourselves if we're so inclined. That of course goes for what I'm about to say as well. I conducted a brief experiment to check if what I've claimed remains true. TLDR is that it appears to be the case.

As a fairly lazy control, I killed the first bandit in Isle of Demons on Way of the Samurai without changing anything in my setup. This granted 86 Amrita.
Doing so with the oracle blessing (at 25%) grants 107 which is exactly 86*1.25 rounding down.
Repeating with a max familiarity Kodama Bowl equipped (30% Kodama Blessing Power-up) and the Oracle Blessing (25%) still active grants 113 which is exactly 86*1.325 rounding down, or alternatively 86*(1+0.25*1.3).
All of this is in line with what we already know about the Kodama Bowl headpiece.

However, throwing down the consumable item Inhabited Kodama Bowl before killing the bandit has no effect on any of these numbers. To be absolutely clear:
Throwing down an Inhabited Kodama Bowl without a blessing active and then killing the bandit grants 86 Amrita.
Throwing down an Inhabited Kodama Bowl with Oracle Blessing active and then killing the bandit grants 107 Amrita.
Throwing down an Inhabited Kodama Bowl with Oracle Blessing active and a max familiarity Kodama Bowl (hat) equipped and then killing the bandit grants 113 Amrita.

As far as I can tell, the Inhabited Kodama Bowl does not affect the active Kodama Blessing.
Yian Yan Dec 28, 2017 @ 7:53pm 
SCIENCE! I like it.
Sailing Dec 28, 2017 @ 8:42pm 
It's fascinating that we still don't know what it does. Truly, one of the mysteries of the universe, beautiful in its own way.
KuBr0 Dec 29, 2017 @ 12:27am 
the inhabited kodama bowl does one thing only > lets you use a hotspring after it has been already used. Tested - works.
Sailing Dec 29, 2017 @ 12:44am 
Originally posted by KuBr0:
the inhabited kodama bowl does one thing only > lets you use a hotspring after it has been already used. Tested - works.

Can you provide more info? Like which hot spring on which stage, where and when you put down the bowl, etc. Because it didn't work for me when I tried it.
KuBr0 Dec 29, 2017 @ 12:58am 
I used it once a while ago after the game came out and I got my first few inhabited bowls, not sure of any specific conditions but what you could try is visiting a shrine before getting back to the used hotspring + pop 2x inhabited kodama bowls at once? I give this another try myself when I get on my PS4
Sailing Dec 29, 2017 @ 1:21am 
I may be misunderstanding you but visiting a shrine resets the hot spring anyway so it doesn't make much sense to my mind.
KuBr0 Dec 29, 2017 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by Sailing:
I may be misunderstanding you but visiting a shrine resets the hot spring anyway so it doesn't make much sense to my mind.

it does? Bcs I thought it doesn't. Maybe they replaced the mechanic without mentioning it in the notes? I thought once used, only inhabited kodama bowls can re-activate it again.
Neil McCauley Dec 29, 2017 @ 1:42am 
My theory:
You throw it down and one of the uncollected Kodamas appears there and you dont have to look for it??
I cannot test it as I have all 225 of those little dudes and I'm too lazy to make a new character.
Sailing Dec 29, 2017 @ 2:03am 
Originally posted by KuBr0:
Originally posted by Sailing:
I may be misunderstanding you but visiting a shrine resets the hot spring anyway so it doesn't make much sense to my mind.

it does? Bcs I thought it doesn't. Maybe they replaced the mechanic without mentioning it in the notes? I thought once used, only inhabited kodama bowls can re-activate it again.

I'm only going off memory here as well, but I recall shrines always resetting hot springs, even on the vanilla PS4 version.

Originally posted by Neil McCauley:
My theory:
You throw it down and one of the uncollected Kodamas appears there and you dont have to look for it??
I cannot test it as I have all 225 of those little dudes and I'm too lazy to make a new character.

I tested this recently too. I went through The Gilded Deception since I had a save file backup around there, dropping bowls occasionally as I made progress. I went as far as finding 8 of the 9 Kodama before dropping a bunch of bowls around the last one - nothing happened. It also didn't act as a temporary Kodama Sense as someone suggested to me it would.
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