Need information about item levels past 150

[Severian]

Hi all, could someone who is savvy about the game (maybe a PS4 veteran) please tell me how I can acquire higher level gear once I have reached NG+?

All I could dig up so far is that I need items that say 150+X, and that I need to soulmatch similar items to raise them a level -

but, where can I find items like that and what is the maximum level for weapons and armor? Also, how much of a difference does one level make?

The wiki seems to be quite outdated and anything but a perfect source of information.

I would really appreciate your help :)

[NekoNinja]

NG+ you can kill bosses and summon revenants to get the green items. Revenants and high level NG+ missions have been my best chance. Also crafting is fairly decent I believe.

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The limit at NG+ is 150+15 (maybe+20) When you enter NG++ (Way of the Demon) I think the cap moves from 150+20 to 200+30
Way of the Nioh I think unlocks it to 300+50

I used to play on playstation, but that was like 2 months ago, finished Way of the Wise and dropped it

[NekoNinja]

Originally posted by Ash:

The limit at NG+ is 150+15 (maybe+20) When you enter NG++ (Way of the Demon) I think the cap moves from 150+20 to 200+30
Way of the Nioh I think unlocks it to 300+50

I used to play on playstation, but that was like 2 months ago, finished Way of the Wise and dropped it

Damn, what level would that be at?

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Originally posted by NekoNinjaWarrior:

Originally posted by Ash:

The limit at NG+ is 150+15 (maybe+20) When you enter NG++ (Way of the Demon) I think the cap moves from 150+20 to 200+30
Way of the Nioh I think unlocks it to 300+50

I used to play on playstation, but that was like 2 months ago, finished Way of the Wise and dropped it

Damn, what level would that be at?

Not sure what you're asking, but it goes like this:
NG (Way of the Samurai)
NG+ (Way of the Strong)
NG++ (Way of the Demon)
NG+++ (Way of the Wise)
NG++++ Final one (Way of the Nioh) "ayynameofthegame.jpg"

My memory is not the best, but I do believe it is as I explained in my first post.

If anyone remembers it correctly, feel free to correct me :)

[NekoNinja]

Originally posted by Ash:

Originally posted by NekoNinjaWarrior:

Damn, what level would that be at?

Not sure what you're asking, but it goes like this:
NG (Way of the Samurai)
NG+ (Way of the Strong)
NG++ (Way of the Demon)
NG+++ (Way of the Wise)
NG++++ Final one (Way of the Nioh) "ayynameofthegame.jpg"

My memory is not the best, but I do believe it is as I explained in my first post.

If anyone remembers it correctly, feel free to correct me :)

I mean like the level you would be at NG++++ (player level) 150? 250? 700?

[iTzGriggs]

I know if you beat floor 999 of the abyss you can get 320+150 weapons and thats max level

[awanderingswordsman]

Increasing the +value is fairly simple. If you soul match and the equip you use as a material has the same or higher +value than the final result will increase in +value by one. The material NEEDS to have a +value. Simply soul matching 2 150 +0 items together does nothing.

So some examples.

Base(+value) + material(+value) = result(+value)
150(+0) + 150(+0) = 150(+0) _____This is useless. Material must have at least +1
150(+0) + 150(+1) = 150(+1)
150(+0) + 150(+13) = 150(+1) _____The base will only ever increase by 1
150(+1) + 150(+1) = 150(+2) _____Because they both have the same +value it increases by 1
150(+3) + 150(+2) = 150(+3) _____Useless. The material must be the same +value or higher
150(+3) + 32(+3) = 150(+4) _____Lower level material doesn't effect the +value.
150(+3) + 194(+0) = 194(+3) _____You can level up the base freely without worrying about +value
150(+3) + 194(+3) = 194(+4) _____The +value is handled seperately so you get both level and +value up

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Originally posted by NekoNinjaWarrior:

Originally posted by Ash:

Not sure what you're asking, but it goes like this:
NG (Way of the Samurai)
NG+ (Way of the Strong)
NG++ (Way of the Demon)
NG+++ (Way of the Wise)
NG++++ Final one (Way of the Nioh) "ayynameofthegame.jpg"

My memory is not the best, but I do believe it is as I explained in my first post.

If anyone remembers it correctly, feel free to correct me :)

I mean like the level you would be at NG++++ (player level) 150? 250? 700?

probably 700 "player level" never went to way of the nioh, dropped it after finishing way of the wise.

[awanderingswordsman]

Player level cap is 750(+1000).

Upon hitting level 750 you can spend amrita to gain up to 1000 more "focus levels" but these levels are very weak in comparison. You can choose between putting points in life, defense, attack, or luck.

If you put all 1000 points in just one stat this is what you end up.
Life = 500 (2 points = 1 life)
Attack = 200 (5 points = 1 attack)
Defense = 200 (5 poitns = 1 defense)
Luck = 100 (10 points = 1 luck)

[Severian]

Thanks a lot guys. That makes things a lot clearer.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Originally posted by awanderingswordsman:

Player level cap is 750(+1000).

Upon hitting level 750 you can spend amrita to gain up to 1000 more "focus levels" but these levels are very weak in comparison. You can choose between putting points in life, defense, attack, or luck.

If you put all 1000 points in just one stat this is what you end up.
Life = 500 (2 points = 1 life)
Attack = 200 (5 points = 1 attack)
Defense = 200 (5 poitns = 1 defense)
Luck = 100 (10 points = 1 luck)

Seems like Luck would be the best stat at that stage of the game. And extra 200 attack when you already got 4K+ (possibly considerably more) isn't that significant, neither is 500HP when mobs probably OHKO you regardless. Defense is even more useless than the rest.

Is it possible to be at Abyss 999 and still be able to survive more than one hit? Like without heavy armor and 200 in body + stamina? I've heard differing reports between people saying abyss 999 is OHKO no matter what by anything that attacks, and others claiming they could face tank 999 with 320+150 gear.

[Jesaiya]

You will not be able to facetank much there. For me it was all a 1shot

[awanderingswordsman]

I honestly have no idea. I never played it on PS4 and I'm only on way of the demon right now. I do have to say that researching this game is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nightmare. Everything is out of date. Hopefully someone updates the wiki (I saw a thread of someone saying they would from a few days ago). I know at least one grace gives over 2k hp so I could see if you stacked either damage resist or hp you could get really tanky. At minimum you can get 9 piece set bonuses for an extra ~20% damage resist on top of the armors innate damage resist but it's probably better at some point to just go for hp.

I've only been down to floor 4 in the abyss (accidentally left cause I'm so used to using the go forward glowy thing) and figured I should do what I can to make it to way of the wise. Just beat the final DLC story mission of way of the strong hoping that would unlock queens eyes on way of the demon like it did when in way of the strong when I beat the DLC on way of the samurai but no dice. Before too long I'll actually be there and able to tell ya first hand how hard it is to survive. Still having some trouble deciding on what I want my set to be but I can't find any info on set bonuses from new DLC stuff so that makes it kind of hard. Thinking 4 izanagi, 3 kigetsu, 5 ninigi and make sure to roll absorb hp (auto recovery) on my helm but I just can't find any data on anything current so it's very frustrating.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Originally posted by Jesaiya:

You will not be able to facetank much there. For me it was all a 1shot

Even with 200 body + stamina and the best tank set you can get? I doubt I'm even going to play the abyss if the tankiest builds get OHKO'd anyway. The setup I was gonna go with for level 750 was 200 in body+stam+spirit with 100 in magic, and 50 spread among other stats. Those 3 stats would make me full tank + living weapon, and good amount of cheese casts.

I can easily say that some attacks that would have 2hko'd me with light armor would need 3 shots to KO me in heavy, which is a decent improvement. OHKO no matter what isn't a challenge, it's a cheese fest. I might as well just living weapon spam everything, and perma-sloth bosses. Or go pure cheese, and full works of debuffs on every boss, sloth, attack + defense down + lifeseal + land dischord, followed by full buffs on me + living weapon spam.

[awanderingswordsman]

I mean, everyone and their mom that went to floor 999 did so one shotting things with crit living weapon builds. More so because it'd take forever with a legit build and it's very repetitive. Also with quick change scrolls you don't really die in one hit no matter how hard you get hit so it's not as bad as it sounds.