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Law 2017 年 11 月 2 日 下午 1:37
Is Nioh as good as Bloodborne?
I played Bloodborne and it was fantastic. Nioh looks quite similar, but from what I've read on the internet, people are saying that they dropped Nioh halfway through, because it was too repetitive. Can someone who has played both let me know if I should get Nioh on my new PC as someone who thinks Bloodborne is one of the best games ever, or is it a cheap "knock off"?
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One Elf 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 3:56 
引用自 Inherited
引用自 Red Birb
Yeah you gotta claw in BB. Sprint is still dodge. Dodge is still O iirc. I ahven't been playing it recently I might be wrong. Though with the lock on being frequent most people don't use the Claw.

I read nioh won't have kb/m so if its similar control scheme it'll be a b11tch for me. Unless sprinting/run is automatic .
Actually in Nioh

https://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Controls

You don't have to claw unless you don't believe in locking on. You can sprint while locked on. Also the camera follows behind you pretty well while turning. Though you can always change your attack buttons to R1/R2. Idk how the PC version will work, chances are I will use kb/m because button combinations can be kind of annoying in Nioh.

If that stuff doesn't work very well for you then yeah you'll be doing the claw alot. However the camera usually does a great job of already turning to where your going.
T9X 69 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 4:02 
引用自 Red Birb
引用自 Inherited

I read nioh won't have kb/m so if its similar control scheme it'll be a b11tch for me. Unless sprinting/run is automatic .
Actually in Nioh

https://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Controls

You don't have to claw unless you don't believe in locking on. You can sprint while locked on. Also the camera follows behind you pretty well while turning. Though you can always change your attack buttons to R1/R2. Idk how the PC version will work, chances are I will use kb/m because button combinations can be kind of annoying in Nioh.

If that stuff doesn't work very well for you then yeah you'll be doing the claw alot. However the camera usually does a great job of already turning to where your going.

Well from quite a few sources there is no KB/M support so you might have no choice but to use a controller. I personally enjoy using a controller more in general, but especially for games like this. The lock on works really well, and honestly never had trouble slicing down multiple enemies, even with switching between stances mid battle. I'm not into using a KB/M like lots of people are, so I can't really speak for them, but I find it hard to believe people will struggle using a controller that normally use KB/M just because the game works so well with the controller layout.

But again. I'm not a heavy KB/M user, so I could just be talking out my ass haha
Harlequin 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 4:03 
naah, nioh is a good game, but blodborne is better game. but are different game, bloodborne is a soul like, nioh is more ninja gaiden than dark souls
One Elf 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 4:09 
引用自 T9X 69
引用自 Red Birb
Actually in Nioh

https://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Controls

You don't have to claw unless you don't believe in locking on. You can sprint while locked on. Also the camera follows behind you pretty well while turning. Though you can always change your attack buttons to R1/R2. Idk how the PC version will work, chances are I will use kb/m because button combinations can be kind of annoying in Nioh.

If that stuff doesn't work very well for you then yeah you'll be doing the claw alot. However the camera usually does a great job of already turning to where your going.

Well from quite a few sources there is no KB/M support so you might have no choice but to use a controller. I personally enjoy using a controller more in general, but especially for games like this. The lock on works really well, and honestly never had trouble slicing down multiple enemies, even with switching between stances mid battle. I'm not into using a KB/M like lots of people are, so I can't really speak for them, but I find it hard to believe people will struggle using a controller that normally use KB/M just because the game works so well with the controller layout.

But again. I'm not a heavy KB/M user, so I could just be talking out my ass haha
I don't really struggle. it's just sometimes on PS4 I get "unresponsive" moments when I attempt to do things like Sprint behind a enemy L1+Triangle. I even make sure I stop and yet sometimes the game feels the need to ignore the L1 part. it could be because of the performance. I was after all using the nurarihyon special move alot. Might change on PC with a more consistant framerate.

gackie 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 4:46 
No. Not from a mechanical nor writing standpoint.
One Elf 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 4:51 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!
No. Not from a mechanical nor writing standpoint.
Explain mechanically? I know Nioh writing is kind of on the lowend. However what makes Nioh worse mechanically?
gackie 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 4:55 
引用自 Red Birb
引用自 Hat Skeleton!
No. Not from a mechanical nor writing standpoint.
Explain mechanically? I know Nioh writing is kind of on the lowend. However what makes Nioh worse mechanically?
Less to do with balancing, more actual visceral design in combat. There are some nice moves like that one spinny attack axes can do, but it doesn't feel as satsifying. They're two differently built games. Nioh is alot more cinematic. Bloodborne is alot more visceral. I was speaking from my opinion anyway.
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One Elf 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 5:01 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!
引用自 Red Birb
Explain mechanically? I know Nioh writing is kind of on the lowend. However what makes Nioh worse mechanically?
Less to do with balancing, more actual visceral design in combat. There are some nice moves like that one spinny attack axes can do, but it doesn't feel as satsifying. They're two differently built games. Nioh is alot more cinematic. Bloodborne is alot more visceral. I was speaking from my opinion anyway.
Visceral? I guess that is subjective. Mechanically they are completely different. Nioh is far more indepth than Bloodborne because you need more attacks/stances to cover more options. In Bloodborne you have to deal with each weapon attack pattern. Not to mention there are skills with those stances and abilities that effect their damage, stamina consumption or ki damage to opponent. The Gem system is damage focused last i checked but I played very long ago and might nolonger be in the know.

I wouldn't say it's more cinematic. However on the base difficulty it is certianly way less of a challenge than Bloodborne. I think the term will better be Nioh can be less aggressive than Bloodborne. Bloodborne is a severely aggressive game afterall.
最后由 One Elf 编辑于; 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 5:02
T9X 69 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 5:21 
引用自 Red Birb
引用自 Hat Skeleton!
Less to do with balancing, more actual visceral design in combat. There are some nice moves like that one spinny attack axes can do, but it doesn't feel as satsifying. They're two differently built games. Nioh is alot more cinematic. Bloodborne is alot more visceral. I was speaking from my opinion anyway.
Visceral? I guess that is subjective. Mechanically they are completely different. Nioh is far more indepth than Bloodborne because you need more attacks/stances to cover more options. In Bloodborne you have to deal with each weapon attack pattern. Not to mention there are skills with those stances and abilities that effect their damage, stamina consumption or ki damage to opponent. The Gem system is damage focused last i checked but I played very long ago and might nolonger be in the know.

I wouldn't say it's more cinematic. However on the base difficulty it is certianly way less of a challenge than Bloodborne. I think the term will better be Nioh can be less aggressive than Bloodborne. Bloodborne is a severely aggressive game afterall.

If you haven't played recently and only around launch, then yes, Bloodborne is the more difficult game. However, they have sinced made a lot of balance changes (mostly since certain weapons/skills/armor sets etc could be easily exploited) along with adding more versions of NG+.

The newest version of NG+ doesn't just make everything a higher level, certain enemies can have different buffs plus a few other things to add an extra challenge. In those difficulties Nioh is more difficult in my opinion. In all honesty, aside from the Spider boss in Bloodborne, I didn't find it much more challenging than the Souls series.
One Elf 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 5:27 
I played when they released the DLC then I didn't rebuy it. It was borrowed from my brother but I got the DLC to clear.I just needed to do the ending without the cords and I would have platinum the game. Did a lot though.
T9X 69 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 5:33 
引用自 Red Birb
I played when they released the DLC then I didn't rebuy it. It was borrowed from my brother but I got the DLC to clear.I just needed to do the ending without the cords and I would have platinum the game. Did a lot though.

It's actually one of the only 3 games I've ever cared enough to take the time to Platinum. I wish the PS4 kept track of hours played, I'd love to know how many hours I poured into it. I'm guessing close to 250 or more.
One Elf 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 5:38 
引用自 T9X 69
引用自 Red Birb
I played when they released the DLC then I didn't rebuy it. It was borrowed from my brother but I got the DLC to clear.I just needed to do the ending without the cords and I would have platinum the game. Did a lot though.

It's actually one of the only 3 games I've ever cared enough to take the time to Platinum. I wish the PS4 kept track of hours played, I'd love to know how many hours I poured into it. I'm guessing close to 250 or more.
probably as much as me xD My first 5 months of having a PS4 was Bloodborne and Warframe. I do enjoy it, however Nioh holds me more. Enough that I'm getting it on PC when it releases. I enjoy the combat alot and the co-op. Shame its kind of dead on PS4 because people don't co-op unless they need help v.v
T9X 69 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 5:43 
引用自 Red Birb
引用自 T9X 69

It's actually one of the only 3 games I've ever cared enough to take the time to Platinum. I wish the PS4 kept track of hours played, I'd love to know how many hours I poured into it. I'm guessing close to 250 or more.
probably as much as me xD My first 5 months of having a PS4 was Bloodborne and Warframe. I do enjoy it, however Nioh holds me more. Enough that I'm getting it on PC when it releases. I enjoy the combat alot and the co-op. Shame its kind of dead on PS4 because people don't co-op unless they need help v.v

Yeah playing with randoms kinda sucked, but it's also the PS4 community, so I wasn't expecting much. What I did like is the DLC didn't require you to beat the level before playing it through front to back with a friend. I'm curious if the PC version will have that change for the entire game or if it will be the same. Unless they patched it and I missed it.
One Elf 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 5:59 
引用自 T9X 69
引用自 Red Birb
probably as much as me xD My first 5 months of having a PS4 was Bloodborne and Warframe. I do enjoy it, however Nioh holds me more. Enough that I'm getting it on PC when it releases. I enjoy the combat alot and the co-op. Shame its kind of dead on PS4 because people don't co-op unless they need help v.v

Yeah playing with randoms kinda sucked, but it's also the PS4 community, so I wasn't expecting much. What I did like is the DLC didn't require you to beat the level before playing it through front to back with a friend. I'm curious if the PC version will have that change for the entire game or if it will be the same. Unless they patched it and I missed it.
You can jolly co-op with a friend still. I know I was playing it afew days ago. Floor 100+ in the abyss is cancer '^'
Nightefx 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 8:27 
Bloodborne is the best out of the Souls borne series, yet Nioh does its own thing in its own way. I enjoyed both games but Bloodborne hands down does everything better. Nioh is worth a play through.
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