Any Cossacks-like game?

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Except Cossacks 2, of course.

I have tried Heroes of Annihilated Empire, which is a bit similar (runs on the same engine than Cossacks 2), but it's a general fantasy game. Is there something else?

[zancek0]

American Conquest is also from GSC Game World. It is probably what you are looking for. Other than that you probably heard of Age of Empires series,

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zan eredeti hozzászólása:

American Conquest is also from GSC Game World. It is probably what you are looking for. Other than that you probably heard of Age of Empires series,

Yeah, but Age of Empires has :
- limited ressources, which means moving to get more ressources,
- extremely limited population, which means micromanagement,

Compared to Age of Empires' "woo I has 3 soldiers I is awesome well time to build more houses", I really enjoy Cossacks' "that cute, I have 100 soldiers, and I'm still counting".

[zancek0]

Couldnt agree more.

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That being said, I'll check American Conquest.

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Hartmann Smith eredeti hozzászólása:

That being said, I'll check American Conquest.

you better do.

[Starman]

Rise of Nations? I not played it myself yet but it has something similer to cossacks style play i think :D

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zan eredeti hozzászólása:

you better do.

Just did. It's damn beautiful, but the lack of tutorial makes it a bit confusing.

Digital_Soul eredeti hozzászólása:

Rise of Nations? I not played it myself yet but it has something similer to cossacks style play i think :D

Except that units are basically squads, it's a bit similar, yeah. There are several ages, each with its own ressources. In the present, for exemple, there's petrol.
There's also Rise of Legends, which has some nice features, as well as an original setting.

[MagneticJerk]

American Conquest definately, it's pretty much Cossacks 1.5, revamped engine but the core gameplay is pretty much exactly the same, though I'd say a lot more limited in multiplayer/skirmish. It's a lot mor focused on the campaigns I'd say.
Other than that, it's difficult to say and depends on what you mean with "Cossacks-like". I'm assuming you mean RTS games with a focus on economy and that have a large scale.
There sadly aren't many like that, and all I can think of have a futuristic scenario:
Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander, AI War: Fleet Command and Warzone 2100. The last one is free, so there's no harm in trying it out yourselve right away. It has a large focus on research and artillery, but pretty much no economy (you just capture oil-deposits and build a rig on them, also you must have a powerplant for all 4 rigs you have. That's it.) I really like it though.

[TΩKSYK]

American Conquest series hands down.

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MurcDusen eredeti hozzászólása:

Other than that, it's difficult to say and depends on what you mean with "Cossacks-like". I'm assuming you mean RTS games with a focus on economy and that have a large scale. though.

I shoulda explained, I meant a focus on economy, yeah, but if possible, with 2D sprites rather than 3D.

And American Conquest, I got it, the AI is pretty tricky. On very easy, it knows it should rush the peasants to capture them.
And the mechanisms aren't that simple too, because apparently muskets units can one-shot, but often misses.

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Hartmann Smith eredeti hozzászólása:

MurcDusen eredeti hozzászólása:

Other than that, it's difficult to say and depends on what you mean with "Cossacks-like". I'm assuming you mean RTS games with a focus on economy and that have a large scale. though.

I shoulda explained, I meant a focus on economy, yeah, but if possible, with 2D sprites rather than 3D.

And American Conquest, I got it, the AI is pretty tricky. On very easy, it knows it should rush the peasants to capture them.
And the mechanisms aren't that simple too, because apparently muskets units can one-shot, but often misses.

Glad to see there are people who prefer 2D sprites over 3D :)

I generally love 2D isometric games and I have a small collection of 2D games and trying to collect as many as I can.

IMO American Conquest & Cossacks series are one of the greatest RTS games ever made to this date with well made 2D graphics and I love the way theyve created unique architecture for every nation, it is just amazing, you wont find this kind of detail in many many games.

http://cossacks.heavengames.com/images/buildings/index.shtml

AI is pretty great too (At least for me) you could still have incredible fun playing solo with AI.

Thinking of other similar games... I have played and liked the game called "Alexander" which is made by GSC and is similar to Cossacks except its based on Alexander the Great and Hellenistic period and theres another game called "The Entente" which is WWI rts but has similar features and its a lot fun if you ask me, but sadly theyre not available on Steam and I remember I tried to play The Entente 2 years ago and had problems running on Win7 even with patches, Im also not sure if theres a newer version out there which is compatible with newer OS's.

Theres also another game called "America: No Peace Beyond the Line" which is 2D and fun to play but heck theyre NOT ON STEAM and hard to find *sigh*

I didnt know "Heroes of Annihilated Empire" was available on Steam, I have added to my wishlist.

There are more games but I dont remember right now, maybe you should check Stronghold if you havent already.

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Artaxeus eredeti hozzászólása:

I didnt know "Heroes of Annihilated Empire" was available on Steam, I have added to my wishlist.

Ha, this one I have. Pretty boring. The AI, even in easier difficulty, will put the pression on you very quickly, which means if you're not spamming a lot of units, it'll zerg rush you.
I never finished a skirmish with another race than the undead.

And Stronghold is, well, the reason I still like isometrics RTS. I mean, I really like the serie (rushing the enemy castle with an army of werewolves/assassins/polar bear never gets old), but in the 3D games (Stronghold 2 and Stronghold legend), the units tend to clips into each other, walking through water, making bridges useless, and weird pathfinding. I still remember that time I had 5 catapults on top of each others, looking like one catapults throwing fives stones at once.
Not to mention sprites allows a lot of details without taking too much RAM.

[TΩKSYK]

I agree completely, thats why I didnt say Stronghold 2 or 3, I didnt like them but Stronghold 1 is fun, though it misses a big feature and thats the skirmish mode, beside that theres Stronghold Crusader with Skirmish mode but you cant play on European theme, only desert which I dont like.

There are few 3D rts I like, for example "The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth 1 & 2" and yeah its not available on Steam how nice...

[MagneticJerk]

I actually prefer 2D as well usually, but that narrows down the selection of games considerably... of the ones I suggested only AI War remains I guess, and that doesn't have that great a focus on economy. You might still want to try the demo I (be warned, the game has a really steep lurning curve and so much content even without the DLCs that it's overwhelming the first times you play it).
I've been looking for cossacks-like games ever since, but there really isn't much out there like it. It seems that the Starcraft/Warcraft and AoE type of RTS games have always been rather dominant. There also are the late nineties C&C style games (C&C Red Alert and Red Alert 2 obviously, but also stuff like KKND) which I really like, but they really aren't anything like Cossacks. Other then that I can only think of all the tactical games like Close Combat, Blitzkrieg, Sudden Strike etc, but that isn't what you're looking for either (by definintion).

Battle for Middle-Earth is nothing like Cossacks, especially the first one with it's rather limited base builidng (you get about 6 or 8 building slots or so per Base and get to choose from about the same amount of buildings, and bases themselves can only be build on predefined spots on the map). It also has a large focus on heroes and special abilities, a squad system and a unit cap. The second one at least revamps the bases so you can actually build freely (well, inside a certain radius around your castle). I had quite some fun with them though, but they're not comparing well to Cossacks.

[TΩKSYK]

I also didnt say BFME was like Cossacks, I gave it as an example of good 3D rts game which I like.