Match engine exploit, cheat or real thing? Demolisher tactic, strikerless

[Mr Football Coach]

Do you think its a cheat of using those kinds of tactics to overpower the match engine? Where is the fun then?

[Agarwaen]

It depends on where you find fun... some people have fun when they win every game 5-0, so for theese people, it may be usefull. some people have fun when they destroy the engine of games (glitches for speedrunners for example) so theese people will have fun finding a game breaking tactic. some other people don't like to loose too often, but don't like to cheat so much, so they use the in game editor for let's say, remoove injuries, for example, but don't use broken tactics. Some other people like challenge, so they try to win champions league with second division slovakia team, theese people don't need game exploits to have fun ^^

[Mr Football Coach]

So you think these tacicts are broken tacics? But is not editor for sure. The SI know is it, so its not a cheat.

[Agarwaen]

i didn't say it is a cheat, but ther eis no problem using it if you are aware that it can lower your fun with the game...
If you play multi, then probably 99% of people will use such broken tactics... so just be aware...

[Neil Brock]

Which specific tactic do you think makes it so easy? Is there one you could link to that we could investigate further? Thanks.

[fourfourtwo79]

All of this. Last years it was the flanks, this years it is the central areas which is in large parts how wide midfielders position in defending now, barely helping to cover central areas. This has existed ever since the first versions, the only thing that differed some was how severe the defending/ai hole was, and that the methods to game the engine have become more advanced, with communities such as FMBase etc. running fully on tactic testing leagues -- and the central areas can be plugged a bit by going 3 central defenders or having multiple DMs. http://www.mrltactics.com/ Which is also what leads to frustration for everybody downloading tactics without knowing why / how they work. All of hose guys will also be back with saying how the game were broken as their previous tactics wouldn't work anymore once the defending sees another overhaul and plugs the exploit areas targeted.

Is this a cheat? Only if you feel cheated yourself in my book! Using it in online multiplayer becomes unfortunate, as so much of player quality is drawn redundant if players only can be marked at leas some off a very limited set of formations to counter -- and all the other just collapse. This style just has a few unfortunate draw backs rarely acknowledged by any of the providers, namely drawing half the management a bit redundant, the players never learning how to play and still winning winning winning plus the entire style depending on big engine issues and AI issues which are always subjective to change. With the nr. 1 tactics on this, you can just load up holiday in beween matches and qualify for the CL first season with below average sides without making subs nor watching a thing, as for most AI formations it is impossible to mark such huge central overloads (3 AMC strikerless, 2 cms behind on support pushing up, even the wide backs tucking in narrow). Most AI formations simply collapse, and once overloaded, one of mostly two CBs is then drawn out of the d-line, which means GG.

[Evil_Befall]

Originally posted by (Q):

there are loads of exploits,(dx9)pop the y rotation is my fav,but its boring,epic wins.10 seasons without a loss.beat man city 27-0 one time.
Rooney was a god that day

the ♥♥♥♥ what ? 27-0 ? my best score is 17-0 it was a practice match h

[Dragon Force]

Originally posted by (Q):

there are loads of exploits,(dx9)pop the y rotation is my fav,but its boring,epic wins.10 seasons without a loss.beat man city 27-0 one time.
Rooney was a god that day

Wut? lel

[Neil Brock]

As said do you have a link to these tactics? If we can look at the tactics internally we can see if and potentially why they 'exploit' and make changes for future versions. Thanks.

[Agarwaen]

dude, if you wanna see thoose tactics, go on http://www.mrltactics.com ...