Fatal Error?

[STOPchris]

I've been getting a lot of fatal error crashes on the flight deck. Any fixes or workarounds for this? There are a lot of these crashes and it is getting to the point where I don't want to finish the game because of them.

[Morgian]

I am afraid that is something on your side. The game is very stable, unless you run several things in the background. Some mods can also cause crashes, but that is another kettle of fish.

[STOPchris]

Originally posted by Morgian:

I am afraid that is something on your side. The game is very stable, unless you run several things in the background. Some mods can also cause crashes, but that is another kettle of fish.

Sure, that's why a lot of other users are also getting this error?

[ThumpieBunnyEve]

I got this error too. I fixed it by ROLLING BACK my version of the game. X_X; before i let any game update any more i make sure i zip a copy of its state up. Because update OFTEN means game-breakage these days. and this was just another case of that. So i put steam in offline mode, and deleted the game folder, and put older backed up version back in. Now none of the tredded-laser-bots cause FATAL ERROR! when they fire. the version i rolled back to is 1.1.17082 . obviously in offline mode i cant play with others JFYI.

Don't be discouraged by steam nay sayers and trolls, its apparently VERY popular this decade for people to tell you the problem is you, and be dismissive. It just proves how juvenile and shallow they are. Its neither helpful nor kind. If dismissive insulting behavior is the new 'cool' I'll happily not be.

A mod maker took so much flak from the steam community, he had to outright comment on it. https://steamcommunity.com/app/482400/discussions/0/3803901559401811793/#c3803901559402981351

the community needs hard discouragement from spreading vitriol or left unchecked its just going to cascade into cultish/mob like actions commit on players for just asking questions.

EDIT:
|ᅟᅟit's a little complicated But you can use older versions of steam games!
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|ᅟᅟyou have to learn to edit some files, and where to look on some databases. But a lot of steam user Guru's know how to (from offline mode) edit a file in steam that contains the build number of a game you have allowance to use.
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|ᅟᅟThe editing of the file sets the old release date and build number from a prior version. Then using some methods, i think it was SteamCMD or some option in the main steam client console window....yeah.. it was that..., download the old version of the game from steam. Steam apparently keeps all these 'deposits' of the game versions and revisions.
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|ᅟᅟIf i remember right then yes, with some startup settings, and your own version of steam (started with "%Path2Steam%/steam.exe" -console -noupdate) or something like that.. you can use steams console mode to acquire old versions of the game, then set your settings to Only-Update-This-Game-On-Launch. then NEVER launch the game UNLESS you put steam in offline mode... Then you can play older versions that don't have the rolling bugs of "updated versions".....
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|ᅟᅟTHIS IS A LOT... I KNOW But you only have to do all that ONE time, if you make sure you ZIP UP that successful roll-back. it requires dedication yes! It is often dedication people Actively-Playing tend to have. at least til they are finished with their save.
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|ᅟᅟOh Yeah, i should also put it out there that you shouldn't try to use a save-file made -AFTER- an update, with a rolled back version of the game. Lotsa-times that will just BORK your save. I just loaded a save from Before i updated, and continued from there thankfully.
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|ᅟᅟI am aware my EDIT is long, and this all sounds vague. I've only ever done it that way once for a game a long while back... Similar to SYSTEM SHOCK actually! called...
|ᅟᅟ"The Persistence" back when they stopped supporting win7 WHILE i was still playing my save file! yikes! but that was a pile of years ago... i don't recall the EXACT method. Some one else can please link this convoluted process here?. I am Positive there are guides on how-to-do-it. I read one once and thats how i did it... but im forgetful. :(

[Highly Inappropriate]

It's not something on your side. The many demos were all stable. Then during these three most recent updates, "Fatal Error!" crashes started to occur, and did so frequently. What's worse, they can softlock some saves, by occuring a mere second after a reload.

Unfortunately Steam forum users will always insist that any problems occuring in any games, is the fault of user computers, and never the fault of developers. Developers simply don't make mistakes. This is actually a smart tactic, because last I dared to critique a developer of a Steam game, I was banned for a full year. ...and so there is nothing wrong with your game, or any game. Just buy a new computer. If you have to get a second job to pay for two new computers every year, then so be it.

[ThumpieBunnyEve]

@Highly Inappropriate
If your having trouble playing through, i edited my above post to include some info.

all be it vague, on how to get older versions of your game from steam. If you journey down that road to acquire the older version through steam, or at least find a proper guide to do so (as my ramblings are from fragmented memory) it would be VERY helpful to future users who stumble down this rabbit-hole thread, and want to subvert the problem without waiting for the devs to get-around-to-it.

[Highly Inappropriate]

Thank you, Thumpie. I'm not sure if I can do that for the GOG version, so I'll just keep on waiting. It's okay. I'm a bad person. I deserve it.

[ThumpieBunnyEve]

@Highly Inappropriate

how to roll back your versions on GOG games:
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419630535057-The-rollback-feature-reverting-to-a-previous-version-of-the-game?product=gog

this one has a gif:
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419630535057-The-rollback-feature-reverting-to-a-previous-version-of-the-game?product=gog

with it being this easy... you know i think ill go buy it on GOG also. Thanks for the research opportunity! ⋆^-^⋆

I am quite impressed with GOG over this. shees Steam you should implement the same sooo easily! DOOO it!

OH! oh oh! Yes! WEE! the games on sale on GOG right now too! (2024-05-20@20;30EST) Yep TY ima get it on GOG too, thanks to you @Highly appropriate! ；D

[MrVirus 2019]

Well, one of the reasons for these fatal errors is that in patch 1.2, support for processors without AVX was removed

[Highly Inappropriate]

Originally posted by MrVirus 2019:

Well, one of the reasons for these fatal errors is that in patch 1.2, support for processors without AVX was removed

That might be it. I am baffled by this decision, since I'm (with my modern graphics card) able to run this game as maximum settings without framedrops, until it randomly crashes, and since the support was there before. I don't see any reason to remove this support.

[Highly Inappropriate]

Also, I could roll back to an earlier version, but that means that I both have to deal with the OLD softlocking crash bugs, and also a recycling station that isn't even large enough to fit large guns in it, along with what I hear is a much worse end fight.
I might have to just watch this game be played by some random teenage narcissist on YouTube.

[MrVirus 2019]

Originally posted by Highly Inappropriate:

Also, I could roll back to an earlier version, but that means that I both have to deal with the OLD softlocking crash bugs, and also a recycling station that isn't even large enough to fit large guns in it, along with what I hear is a much worse end fight.
I might have to just watch this game be played by some random teenage narcissist on YouTube.

So I don't understand why they removed it.
I specially rolled back to 1.1 and everything is normal.
As an anecdote, I have a laptop for work, and it has AVX. But it is impossible to play on it because it is not designed for games

[MrVirus 2019]

I'm more surprised that the developers are stepping on the same rake.
As I dug deeper into this problem and saw that there were many games that had AVX added, the gaming community raised an uproar and the developers released a patch that removed AVX and everything went back to normal.

[Highly Inappropriate]

Originally posted by MrVirus 2019:

I'm more surprised that the developers are stepping on the same rake.
As I dug deeper into this problem and saw that there were many games that had AVX added, the gaming community raised an uproar and the developers released a patch that removed AVX and everything went back to normal.

Why would the community be against more support? What?
I have an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz, and it doesn't appear to have AVX.
It's a Bloomfield, right before Sandy Bridge which has AVX support.
I just don't understand how they can have just enough support for it to run fine, except for the occational random crashes.

[ThumpieBunnyEve]

For those using the steam versions, i believe you can downgrade your SystemShockRemake following the steps on this site: https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-downgrade-steam-games/ As mentioned above by me, its.. a process.. but hopefully one you only have to do once, if you Zip it up and store it there after.

As for having bought the GoG version now also, i just found out i cant roll it back to version 1.1.### the only options were previous versions of 1.2.### so ill have to see if i can find a guide for that... im pretty sure GoG would keep prior deposits, just like steam does. it just shows the most recent 3 so to not 'overwhelm' the gamer whos game has stopped working with an update. (As usually Devs fix said problems in a patch or 2.)

Guess im hunting for "ancient" rollback options on GoG too. my 1.1.### version on steam i won't allow to update, is working fine.

i hope this 'AVX' oversite is cleared up for users soon. Its sad when devs cripple compatibility for their paid clients.

[MrVirus 2019]

Originally posted by Highly Inappropriate:

Originally posted by MrVirus 2019:

I'm more surprised that the developers are stepping on the same rake.
As I dug deeper into this problem and saw that there were many games that had AVX added, the gaming community raised an uproar and the developers released a patch that removed AVX and everything went back to normal.

Why would the community be against more support? What?

I meant that some games didn't support CPUs without AVX. The community was outraged that she was not there. And developers have either brought back or added non-AVX CPU support