Secret Doors?

[Audax Dreik]

Almost finished Medical and I have to ask ... is there a tell for the secret doors I'm missing? I've found most of them off memory, but I can't for the life of me tell that they're there. It's true that in the original the blue outline was maybe a little over conspicuous, but now there doesn't seem to be a tell at all, not even the wall description at the top of the screen?

Am I missing something or ...? I'm not sure I like this. Now it's back to wall-humping AND floor humping, I'm not sure how you'd ever find that secret floor panel on the first level if you didn't know it was already there.

[LordBlade]

Oh, I thought it was a different wall. I know I found one that was different. But I can't remember where the hell it was. Sorry.

[53 & still gaming]

Originally posted by MDK:

Oh you will have to wallhump. They removed all the tells from the original.

Only way to find them now is knowing the original by heart or using the sensaround module, which they removed the original function of (360° FOV) to show stuff on the minimap instead.

can you please explain to me how Sensaround works now ? It does not seem to do anything for me when I click on it.

[Krotow (LV)]

Originally posted by tritscwa:

For medical in particular there is a Super Devious one that is... I think unique. It is super simple, but I know I missed it for over an hour even knowing where to search.

Found this one even without finding purely by luck and intuition about that "this spot might be a secret door". Honestly I already forgot about it from 1994 game - it was too long ago.

Indeed secret spots in remake are harder to spot. Had to strugle a little while searched first two spots in Medical level near corridor to central hub which are well known for everybody who played 1994 game at least twice. Also devs removed a spot with grenades between RESIST room and conference room with secret room where Magnum is.

[Myztkl©-Kev]

Originally posted by 51 & still gaming:

Originally posted by MDK:

Oh you will have to wallhump. They removed all the tells from the original.

Only way to find them now is knowing the original by heart or using the sensaround module, which they removed the original function of (360° FOV) to show stuff on the minimap instead.

can you please explain to me how Sensaround works now ? It does not seem to do anything for me when I click on it.

level 1 sensearound will highlight items on the minimap when you are in the same room, otherwise it only shows items through walls if you are facing their direction.

[lizard81288]

I found a floor one by accident. I killed a robot and it fell over. I was mashing the X button and the floor opened up. I closed the door again to see if I could spot any difference and nope. It just looks like the floor.

[Pyro Penguin]

Originally posted by Myztkl©-Kev:

Originally posted by 51 & still gaming:

can you please explain to me how Sensaround works now ? It does not seem to do anything for me when I click on it.

level 1 sensearound will highlight items on the minimap when you are in the same room, otherwise it only shows items through walls if you are facing their direction.

it doesn't show items behind secret walls even if you are standing right in front of it

[Myztkl©-Kev]

Originally posted by Pyro Penguin:

Originally posted by Myztkl©-Kev:

level 1 sensearound will highlight items on the minimap when you are in the same room, otherwise it only shows items through walls if you are facing their direction.

it doesn't show items behind secret walls even if you are standing right in front of it

I figured as much, I haven't really tested it. the lvl1 is basically useless.

[Necroscourge]

SOME doors have tells, but others look completely the same as other walls; you practically need Sense v3 if you want to actually find anything. The range on V2 sucks

[Zalugar]

Gonna share the secrets I found in hopes of others joining in. These are only secret/hidden doors. Because those are the fun ones. Marked by the orange markers you can use in-game.

Medical: Found 7 (thanks to Armstrong for telling me one I missed). Only one I found so far that a floor, and the the floor one was the only one with a solid tell it was there.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984125618
Research: Only found 2. One was more of a wall you open up from the other side via a button but I'm counting it, since it opens a wall.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984126146
Reactor: Found 4. Though 2 are connected so it's effectively 3.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984125998
Storage: Only found 2.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984125807
There's very little tells for which ones are secrets. The best example I've seen is lighting on Research, but then you have storage which is just a lit up door, of which there are at least 100 other ones that aren't secrets.

Nothing seems to help detect them. I've seen some mention of the Sensaround Radar Unit V3 but seeing how useless V2 is, I doubt it. The people talking about it didn't seem particularly confident either. The vision patch sadly doesn't help either.

There is surprisingly little information about these secret doors online. The gamefaqs guide for the old game even only tells you how many secret doors are on a level, and not even where they are. Not that they seem to be 1-to-1 with the remake, since I found 7 on Medical and it lists 6 as secret doors.

[ironblader]

good work ladies&gents! i stumbled over an yt vid --> Medical HIDDEN LOCATIONS. System Shock Remake

where´s another secret hidden door, right next to the magnum room, with 2 ammo packs in it... but i cant access it...seems that this was in the last beta demo and the dev´s might removed it ?!

[Cyborg]

Originally posted by Zalugar:

Gonna share the secrets I found in hopes of others joining in. These are only secret/hidden doors. Because those are the fun ones. Marked by the orange markers you can use in-game.

Medical: Found 7 (thanks to Armstrong for telling me one I missed). Only one I found so far that a floor, and the the floor one was the only one with a solid tell it was there.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984125618
Research: Only found 2. One was more of a wall you open up from the other side via a button but I'm counting it, since it opens a wall.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984126146
Reactor: Found 4. Though 2 are connected so it's effectively 3.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984125998
Storage: Only found 2.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984125807
There's very little tells for which ones are secrets. The best example I've seen is lighting on Research, but then you have storage which is just a lit up door, of which there are at least 100 other ones that aren't secrets.

Nothing seems to help detect them. I've seen some mention of the Sensaround Radar Unit V3 but seeing how useless V2 is, I doubt it. The people talking about it didn't seem particularly confident either. The vision patch sadly doesn't help either.

There is surprisingly little information about these secret doors online. The gamefaqs guide for the old game even only tells you how many secret doors are on a level, and not even where they are. Not that they seem to be 1-to-1 with the remake, since I found 7 on Medical and it lists 6 as secret doors.

Just looted V3 and it says in the item description that it will highlight hidden doors.

[ironblader]

Originally posted by Zalugar:

Gonna share the secrets I found
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There is surprisingly little information about these secret doors online. The gamefaqs guide for the old game even only tells you how many secret doors are on a level, and not even where they are. Not that they seem to be 1-to-1 with the remake, since I found 7 on Medical and it lists 6 as secret doors.

Is there a specific gamefaq guide you're talking about? Like nowadays "piggyback, prima game guides" or just general?

[Wonzling]

One small tell for secret doors is that the walls in question are always symmetrical and can move apart down the middle, so if there is a greebly, display, pipe or similar crossing it, it can't be a secret door. However, I might be mistaken because I've only found the symmetrical ones :P

[ironblader]

1994 manual [pixeldrain.com]

[LordBlade]

https://imgur.com/a/H1vARWm
Anyone know how to get to the partially uncovered area in the top right?
I can "see" it through the walls (it gets mapped out) but I have no idea how to get there.