Secret Doors?

[Audax Dreik]

Almost finished Medical and I have to ask ... is there a tell for the secret doors I'm missing? I've found most of them off memory, but I can't for the life of me tell that they're there. It's true that in the original the blue outline was maybe a little over conspicuous, but now there doesn't seem to be a tell at all, not even the wall description at the top of the screen?

Am I missing something or ...? I'm not sure I like this. Now it's back to wall-humping AND floor humping, I'm not sure how you'd ever find that secret floor panel on the first level if you didn't know it was already there.

[Zalugar]

Originally posted by tritscwa:

A visual tell, not really. That said, the sensiaround mod can give you at least some idea where a hidden room is (it displays items on your minimap).

Doesn't help at all. I turned it on, opened and closed a hidden door, and just watched the items appear and disappear on the map without taking a step.

People also say there's sort of? visual clues, but I'm not seeing it. Same texture, cursor doesn't change color over it, door is the same description as the normal model, etc. Literally just wall humping (and floor humping, not that I've found a floor one) it seems to me.

[Audax Dreik]

Hidden floors are exceptionally rare if I remember from the original, which just makes it all the more frustrating that there's no tells anymore. Trying to interact with every single floor just to find the 3-4 that might be in the entire game is so tedious when it doesn't need to be.

The only one I recall at the moment is on the first level in Medical. On the north side of the central hub/pillar, before entering Alpha where there's usually a laser gate if you haven't disabled it, check the corners around there, for those that haven't found a hidden floor yet. It's just a few items, nothing game changing, still just disappointing that most people will never know these exist unless they read forums/guides.

[Zalugar]

I have to take back my previous remark. Partially, anyway. Turns out the floor ones (at least the singular one I found so far) do have tells. It has normal, small tiled wall/ramp tile but on the floor where no where else in Medical does, from what I can find. There's large tile floor that look somewhat similar, but there's definitely a difference. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983369935

And here's the map for Medical of the 6 secrets I found there, marked by the in-game orange marker.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983369962

[Armstrong]

Originally posted by Zalugar:

I have to take back my previous remark. Partially, anyway. Turns out the floor ones (at least the singular one I found so far) do have tells. It has normal, small tiled wall/ramp tile but on the floor where no where else in Medical does, from what I can find. There's large tile floor that look somewhat similar, but there's definitely a difference. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983369935

And here's the map for Medical of the 6 secrets I found there, marked by the in-game orange marker.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983369962

You missed one secret, it is in the lower right corner of the large room where you found the floor secret.

[MoDD DeeP]

On Subsequent floors the secret doors I've found have all been behind the Coated Rubber walls (Square Grid walls) if that helps.

[Maj. Crimes]

Originally posted by MoDD DeeP:

On Subsequent floors the secret doors I've found have all been behind the Coated Rubber walls (Square Grid walls) if that helps.

Most of them are and its a lot easier finding them once you know what to look for, but i found one on medical that was not behind one of these walls.

[LordBlade]

Originally posted by Arlyeon Crit Hit:

I got the security to 0% in Medical and the next floor, but haven't found any secret doors ?

https://imgur.com/a/8gCLkir
Here's the secret room in Medical that you get access to for having 0% security.

I'm trying to find a list online, but nobody seems to have them posted.

[LordBlade]

Whoever can put together a Guide that shows every secret door will be a hero.

[LordBlade]

https://imgur.com/a/XdMJap7
Found this in Research. In the little pit in the radiation room in from of where the isotope storage is.

Just a wall panel in a side of the pit with some explosives. Haven't found any other secrets on this level.

[moat]

Originally posted by Dark Redshift:

Originally posted by MDK:

Oh you will have to wallhump. They removed all the tells from the original.

Only way to find them now is knowing the original by heart or using the sensaround module, which they removed the original function of (360° FOV) to show stuff on the minimap instead.

The sensearound augmentation now being a radar or sonar instead of a rear view mirror makes sense as the original aug was more or less needed for the original game's terrible controls. It still came in handy in Portable & the Enhanced Edition with their mouselook but simply turning around to see was a lot easier than vanilla classic.

Now because it's easier to turn around, the aug's original purpose was likely seen by the devs as obsolete. It does seem more useful than the original in EE though.

And sensaround V2 even highlights enemies, Use it in short bursts when about to round a bend or open a door for some early warning.

[Rand]

Originally posted by Myztkl©-Kev:

I have found 4 so far, and by comparing the OG map to where they are on this one, they are all rooms that existed in the OG, haven't found the floor one(s) yet.

The only floor one on medical is by the (originally shielded) entrance from the central core to the Alpha (north) quadrant. It's just a bit southwest in the same place as the original game.

[Rand]

Originally posted by Maj. Crimes:

Originally posted by MoDD DeeP:

On Subsequent floors the secret doors I've found have all been behind the Coated Rubber walls (Square Grid walls) if that helps.

Most of them are and its a lot easier finding them once you know what to look for, but i found one on medical that was not behind one of these walls.

Oh? Where?

[LordBlade]

Originally posted by KnightShade:

Oh? Where?

That would likely be the one where the Magnum is hidden. As it's a regular looking wall, not a grid one as I recall.

[Rand]

Originally posted by LordBlade:

Originally posted by KnightShade:

Oh? Where?

That would likely be the one where the Magnum is hidden. As it's a regular looking wall, not a grid one as I recall.

Yeah, that one would be hard to know to go to at the end of the level without knowledge of the original game.
Even in the original, most people missed it because they forgot about it by then.

[Rand]

Originally posted by LordBlade:

Originally posted by KnightShade:

Oh? Where?

That would likely be the one where the Magnum is hidden. As it's a regular looking wall, not a grid one as I recall.

Nope. I looked. It's that blue grid wall like all the others:
https://imgur.com/a/phScPuY
https://imgur.com/a/lUsr4KQ