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el-marine Jun 9, 2023 @ 6:41am
Something interesting to explore in Beta Grove?
Hi folks, I hope you are all doing very well! Is there something interesting in Beta Grove worth exploring it? There is weapon upgrade in interlock chamber, but other than that? Are cameras needed for some achievement or any hidden / locked door somewhere?

P.S. Beta Grove will be jettisoned anyways, so not sure if cameras count or unlock something...
Originally posted by Crypto Gamer:
Some people says you do not need to kill those cameras for achievent I killed them all just in case but Still did not complete the game.

But yes logically you should not need to kill them but I assume you need to kill them.
Better safe than sorry.

Jump jet V2 is now a function of Turbo V2 first found on the strorage behind the 0% security door.

While turbo is on you hold space to "fly".So remake combines lot of wares.

Navigation map unit is maxed at V2 in the remake there is no V3.

And sense around now does something the OG Navigation did for FREE but in the remake sense around/loot scanner cost 12 enegery per minute.
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Crypto Gamer Jun 9, 2023 @ 6:44am 
I assume you need to kill all cameras for the achievements which requires 0% security on everywhere.

You needed to lower security % to access mission switch but in beta you can just use turbo V2 and fly straight to the switch and get out.

Aside from that there is a magpulse upgrade which raises dmg from 60 to 75 and from 150 to 180 when pumped up.You need that if you want the all weapons upgraded achievement
Last edited by Crypto Gamer; Jun 9, 2023 @ 6:49am
el-marine Jun 9, 2023 @ 6:50am 
Well, it says that there are following upgrades in Beta Grove:

* Navigation and Mapping Unit v3
* Jump Jet v2

Do you know if these are available in remake and some of those are hidden behind some door with 0% security required?
Kalameet Jun 9, 2023 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by Crypto Gamer:
I assume you need to kill all cameras for the achievements which requires 0% security on everywhere.
I know this is a game, but discarding Beta Grove should logically cause SHODAN lose access to its security cameras.

Damn you devs, this is clearly a BUG :P
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Crypto Gamer Jun 9, 2023 @ 7:01am 
Some people says you do not need to kill those cameras for achievent I killed them all just in case but Still did not complete the game.

But yes logically you should not need to kill them but I assume you need to kill them.
Better safe than sorry.

Jump jet V2 is now a function of Turbo V2 first found on the strorage behind the 0% security door.

While turbo is on you hold space to "fly".So remake combines lot of wares.

Navigation map unit is maxed at V2 in the remake there is no V3.

And sense around now does something the OG Navigation did for FREE but in the remake sense around/loot scanner cost 12 enegery per minute.
el-marine Jun 9, 2023 @ 7:31am 
Well, my main concern with Beta Grove is that you need sooo many ammo for all these mutants... And then healing / replenish energy for suit... Is it worth it? Can't find anything interesting in this area, but maybe I'm missing something?
Crypto Gamer Jun 9, 2023 @ 7:55am 
If you do not care about magpulse upgrade or lowering security to 0% then use the steam guide: Getting Through "Beta Grove" The Fast Way

Basically you can skip 90% of the beta grove and you save TONS of medical supplies.

Otherwise Beta grove just have basic ammo and such for drop.

Alpha has the energy weapon which likely replaces the sparkbeam.

a V3 target indentifier if not found before a magpulse which likely was already found

Delta has the chess puzzle which if done gives an inventory upgrade and it has the combat shield version 2.
hunne Jun 9, 2023 @ 8:03am 
you don´t need any wares and whatnots...get the upgrade, hit the switch, in and out in about 5 minutes...if I can do that, anyone can
el-marine Jun 9, 2023 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Crypto Gamer:
If you do not care about magpulse upgrade or lowering security to 0% then use the steam guide: Getting Through "Beta Grove" The Fast Way
Magpulse upgrade is in the same room as switch, right? The one that adds +15 to damage, +2 to size and required 3-4 energy for every shot
el-marine Jun 9, 2023 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by hunne:
you don´t need any wares and whatnots...get the upgrade, hit the switch, in and out in about 5 minutes...if I can do that, anyone can
Yeah, already did this. Just wanted to be sure I haven't left any hidden door or interesting stuff behind
hunne Jun 9, 2023 @ 8:41am 
beta grove in the remake, imho, is way harder than back in ´94...
it basically lured you to waste time and resources, while in the remake it really makes you "go fast" and I mean fast, unlike that stupid balloon in that awful UAP video^^
both variants have not much of interest, so nothing you possibly missed out on
you´d meet Beta Grove again in SS2 anyways
el-marine Jun 9, 2023 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by hunne:
you´d meet Beta Grove again in SS2 anyways
They are planning to remake SS2 too?
ZeppMan217 Jun 9, 2023 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Kalameet:
Originally posted by Crypto Gamer:
I assume you need to kill all cameras for the achievements which requires 0% security on everywhere.
I know this is a game, but discarding Beta Grove should logically cause SHODAN lose access to its security cameras.

Damn you devs, this is clearly a BUG :P
Not if you've played SS2.
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Date Posted: Jun 9, 2023 @ 6:41am
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