new sensaround is LAME

[Manthony Higgs]

Highlighting stuff on the tiny minimap isn't really useful and it still drains battery power? what a downgrade, give me a rear view mirror or give me death

[Grug]

Is that the hidden mod in the radioactive room? I found it useful for finding items that are under piles of gore after using explosives. I'm hoping rear-view-mirror will be found elsewhere.

[ZylonBane]

Sensaround as an upgrade only made sense in the original version where it took literal seconds to turn around, and even then I don't think anyone ever used it except maybe in the autobomb maze. Now that we have proper mouselook it's straight up useless.

[Xkilljoy98]

I think it has its uses, tho with the original controls yeah it does help more there

[phillippi2]

It is worth noting that System Shock is not exactly science fiction. It is Cyber Punk, a derivative of Steam Punk. A camera in the back of your head is something that would be in style for the genre.

[Xkilljoy98]

Originally posted by phillippi2:

It is worth noting that System Shock is not exactly science fiction. It is Cyber Punk, a derivative of Steam Punk. A camera in the back of your head is something that would be in style for the genre.

Well Cyberpunk still falls within sci-fi

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by phillippi2:

It is Cyber Punk, a derivative of Steam Punk.

There's so much wrong packed into this one little sentence, I barely know where to start.

[Berathraben]

K.W. Jetter coined the term Steam Punk to describe a trilogy of novels he wrote.
William Gibson coined the term Cyber Punk to do much the same thing.

Neither are really derivative of each other.

If anything, both terms are derived from the counter culture Punk movement of the 70s from Britain. Which seems pretty obvious. But became their own thing respectively.

[Flan]

Steampunk is more of a style and cyberpunk is more of a philosophy, or at least that's how it seems these days. Steampunk calls up particular visual things and technology while cyberpunk calls up images of social and metaphysical things as well as visual things and technology built ontop.

[Xkilljoy98]

Originally posted by Flannelette:

Steampunk is more of a style and cyberpunk is more of a philosophy, or at least that's how it seems these days. Steampunk calls up particular visual things and technology while cyberpunk calls up images of social and metaphysical things as well as visual things and technology built ontop.

Well I would argue that Cyberpunk is a style too, at least style is a part of it

[BulbmanX]

I swear to god, if we don't get rocket powered roller blades... XD

[Flan]

Originally posted by Xkilljoy98:

Originally posted by Flannelette:

Steampunk is more of a style and cyberpunk is more of a philosophy, or at least that's how it seems these days. Steampunk calls up particular visual things and technology while cyberpunk calls up images of social and metaphysical things as well as visual things and technology built ontop.

Well I would argue that Cyberpunk is a style too, at least style is a part of it

Think of it this way, I can transplant steampunk onto another setting or story (Jane Austin but steampunk, Jurassic park but steampunk for example). But to transfer cyberpunk I can't just take the sci-fi stuff and put it on another thing without it losing the cyberpunk things (eg Corporatism is bad and technology can make it worse, what does it mean to be human, can you change what humanity means by changing its physical form? etc).

Steampunk is very much just, "X" but now the technology is stuck in mid 19th century these days. It can be more as well, using the friction between the new industrial and the older systems (or old magic in a lot of cases).

[MadamVonCuntpuncherThe19th]

Originally posted by Manthony Higgs:

Highlighting stuff on the tiny minimap isn't really useful and it still drains battery power? what a downgrade, give me a rear view mirror or give me death

Completely forgetting that its a V1 software that gets upgraded later

[PhosphoR]

I've had a bug in the demo where I turn sensaround off, yet still get energy drain as if it's on. Also had a situation where sensaround used no energy... so that's cool. Seriously how often did any of us actually use sensaround? I'd imagine most people used it for a minute or two and then turned it off. And then turned it back on in the autobomb maze. And then never used it again.

This one in the demo at least lets me find loot after I turn a bunch of drones into paste.

[Manthony Higgs]

highlighting loot on the minimap should be a default feature, not a mod that costs battery power to use. If it also highlighted it in your vision like the sight patches do, then I'd be more interested. as it is right now the sensaround is a complete downgrade from the original game and not at all worth using

[moat]

When I played the OG I pretty much never used the sensaround because I felt that in most cases I could just listen for enemies and generally just keep my head on a swivel. Even in that dreaded place with the autobombs.

I have my sensaround key bound to something convenient and I use it just by toggling it on/off briefly every so often. I don't leave it on.