Anyone Missing? (spoilers)

[Youngster Skaymore]

After the gang kills all the cult people, is anyone missing that could be a member of the cult? Also it's worth noting that one of them calls Mae by name when she first sees the group of them killing one of their own members, so it might be someone she knows and talks to in the game

[wolfknight]

So Molly I am not sure if she is, because you do not see her everyday. But the town council is gone 1 of the Smelters fan is gone I think some of the random people walking around are missing. Say what you want I think this game has one of the best stories, man I really want a DLC for this game or NITW 2.

[mommy]

The croc Smelter's fan left. Like... he got a new job and moved with his family. The two fans discussed this the day ♥♥♥♥ went down.

[StealArty]

I still think aunt Molly is a cultist. She took that arm and could cover it up, said that it was severed from a dead body as well, not sure about that. She never trusted Mae, was super ominous and stuff.

Council is in on this as well for sure. Some random people too.

Not that smelters fan tho, he just left the town.

[Rich]

Originally posted by StealArty:

I still think aunt Molly is a cultist. She took that arm and could cover it up, said that it was severed from a dead body as well, not sure about that. She never trusted Mae, was super ominous and stuff.

Council is in on this as well for sure. Some random people too.

Not that smelters fan tho, he just left the town.

If Molly *was* a cultist, they wouldnt have been executing one of their own for letting the cops get a hold of it, i think she just wanted to try to protect mae, now Scamz( or Skams or Skamz) i think is a member since he fits the description of Mae's attacker in the mine pretty well, it was either him, or Mae's Grandad who either died and had his ghost messed up or faked his death to do cult things in secret.

[StealArty]

Btw, is Goat guy, who lives next door and who was at church after Mae fell, present during the epilouge? I think he is one of the bad guys as well.

[Benji, limited edition shitlord]

Originally posted by Higuera:

now Scamz( or Skams or Skamz) i think is a member since he fits the description of Mae's attacker in the mine pretty well, it was either him, or Mae's Grandad who either died and had his ghost messed up or faked his death to do cult things in secret.

Scamz is, or at least appears to be a drifter, somebody the cultists wouldnt invite to the cult or consider equal. Heck, he'd rather end up being one sacrificed in the pit, lol.
Plus, his ear has a round cut, when Mae's attacker's ear has a pretty sharp, triangular cut. Similar to her granddad's from Longest night.
It wouldnt make much sense for her granddad to attack her, though. It doesnt make much sense for the guy to attack Mae in particular, anyway - it was Gregg that shot him, right? Why would he want to hurt her and not him? Why did he apparently howl, despite having face of a cat? What is that damn thing on his face? A robotic muzzle? Night vision googles?
And whats up with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ severed arm? And the tattoo? Are we all missing something here?
I like having a mistery to solve, but this one is just so vague you cant really draw any reasonable conclusions. We dont know even whats real and whats not, if we assume we're seeing everything via Mae's eyes.
Perhaps everything is like, one huge allegory for depression and/or dissasociation and struggles to racionalize the world? Like, kidnapped kid she sees could be a memory of Casey? And the hole at the center of everything is her repressed anger and sadness? The voices she hears, the ghost, the presence in her head is like, personalized anxiety? Or something like that. Im no psychiatrist, but we can assume we see the world through Mae's eyes, so as well she might be seeing things that dont really happen. And everything that happens in the mines could be just cause of the halucinoid gas and... I lost it.

[StealArty]

Originally posted by Dead half of Schrödinger's cat:

Originally posted by Higuera:

now Scamz( or Skams or Skamz) i think is a member since he fits the description of Mae's attacker in the mine pretty well, it was either him, or Mae's Grandad who either died and had his ghost messed up or faked his death to do cult things in secret.

Scamz is, or at least appears to be a drifter, somebody the cultists wouldnt invite to the cult or consider equal. Heck, he'd rather end up being one sacrificed in the pit, lol.
Plus, his ear has a round cut, when Mae's attacker's ear has a pretty sharp, triangular cut. Similar to her granddad's from Longest night.
It wouldnt make much sense for her granddad to attack her, though. It doesnt make much sense for the guy to attack Mae in particular, anyway - it was Gregg that shot him, right? Why would he want to hurt her and not him? Why did he apparently howl, despite having face of a cat? What is that damn thing on his face? A robotic muzzle? Night vision googles?
And whats up with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ severed arm? And the tattoo? Are we all missing something here?
I like having a mistery to solve, but this one is just so vague you cant really draw any reasonable conclusions. We dont know even whats real and whats not, if we assume we're seeing everything via Mae's eyes.
Perhaps everything is like, one huge allegory for depression and/or dissasociation and struggles to racionalize the world? Like, kidnapped kid she sees could be a memory of Casey? And the hole at the center of everything is her repressed anger and sadness? The voices she hears, the ghost, the presence in her head is like, personalized anxiety? Or something like that. Im no psychiatrist, but we can assume we see the world through Mae's eyes, so as well she might be seeing things that dont really happen. And everything that happens in the mines could be just cause of the halucinoid gas and... I lost it.

We also have all of this to answer:

What language that thing speaks and what did it said to Mae when she dropped under water at the end of the mines?

Is Janitor God? Is Cat what we would call God? How many Gods are there even?

What happened to Bruce? Sure, he said he will leave, but I think there might be something else to it.

Whose arm was that?

Is the Goat from the pit a demon? Another god? Alien?

What will happen next? Possum Springs is doomed? Cultist's are dead?

Will we see answers? DLCs? Sequel? Something?

Is this too many questions? Maybe?

[Benji, limited edition shitlord]

Originally posted by StealArty:

We also have all of this to answer:

What language that thing speaks and what did it said to Mae when she dropped under water at the end of the mines?

Is Janitor God? Is Cat what we would call God? How many Gods are there even?

What happened to Bruce? Sure, he said he will leave, but I think there might be something else to it.

Whose arm was that?

Is the pit thing a demon? Another god? Alien?

What will happen next? Possum Springs is doomed? Cultist's are dead?

Will we see answers? DLCs? Sequel? Something?

Is this too many questions? Maybe?

*That language could be gibberish, or actual thing. If it was ment to be understood, it would probably be english, so I wouldnt really focus on that one that much. But perhaps somebody could decipher that?
*Eh I dont know. Hard to tell. I dont see any reasonable reasons for him to be something more than just a guy.
*For the first time Ive played I thought he commited suicide. He didnt want to talk about his daughter (perhaps shes dead?), and pastor doesnt really comment after we ask if shes 'not happy that he went to met his daughter'. But then, no other clues for and against that.
*Thats a good one. Who knows. Why was it severed? How?
*Pit god could be a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shub-Niggurath , The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young. Black Goat. Of the woods. We can see Black Goat painting in the hystorical society, and Mae says she knows that painting somehow. The woods reference is pretty obvious. The idea is explored in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jmzjjoWyPc
*Hard to say. Thats why Id like a DLC :^) If youve played 'The lost constalation' there was that huge animal in it, that was supposed to be Forest God, but was actually just a huge animal? Or at least the Astronomer said it was just a huge animal, perhaps the hole monster is the same...
*DLC? Yea, that would be great. Sequel? Eh... idk. I think we all already got to know and like the characters, the sequel would have to do something big and new I think, introduce new characters and/or setting... I dont know. I mean sequels done right can be great, but done wrong are just awful.

All in all, we might never know. The game deals with a ton of real life issues, and one of those issues is we sometimes never really get to know the truth, as frustrating as it may be.

[Jazz]

Indeed, Cat God, Forest God and Pit God resemble lovecraftian gods a lot. They are not gods or demons in traditional sense, just superpowered beings with their own agendas.

I still think that they're not real though. Forest God is a part of the folklore, and interaction with Cat God and Pit God is only presented from Mae's point of view.

[StealArty]

Originally posted by Dead half of Schrödinger's cat:

Originally posted by StealArty:

We also have all of this to answer:

What language that thing speaks and what did it said to Mae when she dropped under water at the end of the mines?

Is Janitor God? Is Cat what we would call God? How many Gods are there even?

What happened to Bruce? Sure, he said he will leave, but I think there might be something else to it.

Whose arm was that?

Is the pit thing a demon? Another god? Alien?

What will happen next? Possum Springs is doomed? Cultist's are dead?

Will we see answers? DLCs? Sequel? Something?

Is this too many questions? Maybe?

*That language could be gibberish, or actual thing. If it was ment to be understood, it would probably be english, so I wouldnt really focus on that one that much. But perhaps somebody could decipher that?
*Eh I dont know. Hard to tell. I dont see any reasonable reasons for him to be something more than just a guy.
*For the first time Ive played I thought he commited suicide. He didnt want to talk about his daughter (perhaps shes dead?), and pastor doesnt really comment after we ask if shes 'not happy that he went to met his daughter'. But then, no other clues for and against that.
*Thats a good one. Who knows. Why was it severed? How?
*Pit god could be a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shub-Niggurath , The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young. Black Goat. Of the woods. We can see Black Goat painting in the hystorical society, and Mae says she knows that painting somehow. The woods reference is pretty obvious. The idea is explored in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jmzjjoWyPc
*Hard to say. Thats why Id like a DLC :^) If youve played 'The lost constalation' there was that huge animal in it, that was supposed to be Forest God, but was actually just a huge animal? Or at least the Astronomer said it was just a huge animal, perhaps the hole monster is the same...
*DLC? Yea, that would be great. Sequel? Eh... idk. I think we all already got to know and like the characters, the sequel would have to do something big and new I think, introduce new characters and/or setting... I dont know. I mean sequels done right can be great, but done wrong are just awful.

All in all, we might never know. The game deals with a ton of real life issues, and one of those issues is we sometimes never really get to know the truth, as frustrating as it may be.

Hope some folks will decpher it, even tho we have zero clues about it.

Janitor knows Mae by name, he is there in a hospital, in a play, in the first room you enter and at the end of the game. He just feels like he is more than just a guy.

When Bruce said about going home I thought that he will just end himself for sure. Pastor's reaction was kinda weird too. Maybe she knew about his kid being dead and she knew what Bruce is going to do with himself.

There are also references to Black Goat in Longest Night and that is how she knows the painting, I think.

Yeah, I played both minigames pre-NitW, but I don't think that Goat is just an animal.

Now we can just wait for fixes and for DLCs

[Benji, limited edition shitlord]

Originally posted by StealArty:

Hope some folks will decpher it, even tho we have zero clues about it.

Janitor knows Mae by name, he is there in a hospital, in a play, in the first room you enter and at the end of the game. He just feels like he is more than just a guy.

When Bruce said about going home I thought that he will just end himself for sure. Pastor's reaction was kinda weird too. Maybe she knew about his kid being dead and she knew what Bruce is going to do with himself.

There are also references to Black Goat in Longest Night and that is how she knows the painting, I think.

Yeah, I played both minigames pre-NitW, but I don't think that Goat is just an animal.

Now we can just wait for fixes and for DLCs

Janitor doesnt know Mae by name until after shes in hospital, right? And there he could have simply seen her sick card, or ask somebody. He is in quite a few places in the game, but so what. So is the taco cat, so is the whole city council. I dont think that proves anything. Yes, he disappears oddly at the start of the game, but that doesnt really prove anything either if you ask me. He could have simply went the other way or whatnot.
The only fishy thing about him is the hospital scene, where he says that shes gonna be allright, at least for today - how'd he know? Does he know future? Maybe hes just weird?

Thing that kinda annoys me about the Bruce situation is, you had no choice to tell her earlier about him leaving. Second playthrough I went to try and talk to her, but I had no option. Shame.

Was the reference in Longest Night? I cant remember where...?

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Originally posted by Dead half of Schrödinger's cat:

Thing that kinda annoys me about the Bruce situation is, you had no choice to tell her earlier about him leaving. Second playthrough I went to try and talk to her, but I had no option. Shame.

That part really irritated me. It seems like a failure on the part of the writer(s). Not a big one, but still a failure nonetheless. There could have been an alternative outcome where you try to talk to Pastor K and he runs off while you're talking if they really didn't want to have any way to stop him.

[Benji, limited edition shitlord]

Originally posted by Truck "Spike Boy" Gloshi:

Originally posted by Dead half of Schrödinger's cat:

Thing that kinda annoys me about the Bruce situation is, you had no choice to tell her earlier about him leaving. Second playthrough I went to try and talk to her, but I had no option. Shame.

That part really irritated me. It seems like a failure on the part of the writer(s). Not a big one, but still a failure nonetheless. There could have been an alternative outcome where you try to talk to Pastor K and he runs off while you're talking if they really didn't want to have any way to stop him.

Ehh. Perhaps talking about stuff like 'throwing ourselves into traffic' or 'burning my room, with me in it' is one thing, but actually showing a suicide would be too much for game's current rating?
That, or it was done on purpose - mind you, often we dont have a choice what Mae does or says, or the choice is between bad and worse - like during Bea's party, where we just keep yapping and end up screwing her over? Or shoplifting in the mall? Perhaps its simply what Mae would do - she wouldnt expect him to do something like that so she wouldnt rat him out.
Mind you, its an interactive story, not a proper RPG
And yet, the way pastor reacts IS kinda ugh. And Mae being pretty iquisitive about ghost doesnt even ask 'whats wrong'? Cmon.

[Starit]

Originally posted by StealArty:

Is the Goat from the pit a demon? Another god? Alien?

The biggesdt clue was in Longest Night, where we learn about Ibon, the First Singer.

http://i.imgur.com/ypEnUua.jpg

As you can see, it's a goat, the constellation is very remicent of the painting Mae finds in the Historical Society. The cult talks about how the Goat sings to them. And in Longest Night is also mentioned that according to the legend, Ibon drained the sea, and in Possum Jump, Angus tells you how the whole valley used to be underwater millions of years ago.

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Originally posted by Starit:

Angus tells you how the whole valley used to be underwater millions of years ago.

Just saying, I'm pretty sure that's not something unique to the area.