Bug: Knight of the Swamp monster ability does not work.

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

I am trying to Fusion Summon the Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird monster using Polymerisation card, screenshot: https://prnt.sc/oey2tz

He requires 1 Machine-type and 1 Pyro-type monster.

Here are monsters I currently control: https://prnt.sc/oey2k3

I cannot select King of the Swamp as Fusion material, despite the card effect clearly says: "You can substitute this card for any 1 Fusion Material Monster, but the other Fusion Material Monster(s) must be correct." (screenshot: https://prnt.sc/oq09qa)

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:King_of_the_Swamp

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

What's the point of providing link to fandom site with OCG rulings? This is TCG based game.

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

its working as intended. blaze fenix needs a pyro or machine type monster, its not asking for a specific monster, and king of the swamp aint either. its effect is not applicable.

[This is a house]

Finding a bug and not knowing how your cards work are different things.

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

Originally posted by Ichmag:

its working as intended. blaze fenix needs a pyro or machine type monster, its not asking for a specific monster, and king of the swamp aint either. its effect is not applicable.

The text on the King of the Swamp does not say that it can be used instead of a specific monster, it says that it can be substituted for **ANY** fusion material monster. If you know English, you should know what does the word "any" mean:
1.
used to refer to one or some of a thing or number of things, no matter how much or how many.
2.
whichever of a specified class might be chosen.

Originally posted by This is a house:

Finding a bug and not knowing how your cards work are different things.

Knowing how your cards work and cards not working as their text says are different things.

If the card text says ANY but ANY is not accepted - then it is a bug. Unfortunately, I understood Konami doesn't give a **** about this game, so all bugs will remain here forever.

[This is a house]

Originally posted by politediligence:

For anyone else who doesn't understand why what OP is doing doesn't work, from the wiki linked above

When resolving "Dark Calling", you can use a monster like "King of the Swamp" as a substitute for a Fusion Material. However, if you are Fusion Summoning a Fusion Monster like "Evil HERO Dark Gaia" which does not specifically name cards ("1 Fiend-Type monster + 1 Rock-Type monster"), or a monster like "Dark Balter the Terrible" with the text "A Fusion Summon of this monster can only be conducted with the above Fusion Material Monsters", then you cannot use a monster like "King of the Swamp".

In short, King of the Swamp can't be substituted if no specific creatures are named as fusion material. This is the case with Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird, and why OP is unable to fusion summon him.

Good job, you successfully read a wiki article.

[This is a house]

Originally posted by Dark Nero *=_VF_=*:

Originally posted by Ichmag:

its working as intended. blaze fenix needs a pyro or machine type monster, its not asking for a specific monster, and king of the swamp aint either. its effect is not applicable.

The text on the King of the Swamp does not say that it can be used instead of a specific monster, it says that it can be substituted for **ANY** fusion material monster. If you know English, you should know what does the word "any" mean:
1.
used to refer to one or some of a thing or number of things, no matter how much or how many.
2.
whichever of a specified class might be chosen.

Originally posted by This is a house:

Finding a bug and not knowing how your cards work are different things.

Knowing how your cards work and cards not working as their text says are different things.

If the card text says ANY but ANY is not accepted - then it is a bug. Unfortunately, I understood Konami doesn't give a **** about this game, so all bugs will remain here forever.

Are you still salty about this after 3 months?

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

Unfixed bugs in a commercial game will never make customers happy.

Even if you in particular are "sugary".

[This is a house]

Originally posted by Dark Nero *=_VF_=*:

Unfixed bugs in a commercial game will never make customers happy.

Even if you in particular are "sugary".

Not understanding card rulings has the same effect on people.

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

Originally posted by Dark Nero *=_VF_=*:

Unfixed bugs in a commercial game will never make customers happy.

Even if you in particular are "sugary".

...its honestly not a bug. its the ruling. you are not allowed to do this in an official tournament or any other automatic yugioh game

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

I think the reason why you do not understand why this is a bug is because you don't fully understand what a bug is. The very definition of a bug is "a difference between actual result and expected result".

There are A LOT of different bug types. Just several examples.
Functional bug - the behavior of part of a program does not match the intended expected behavior (for example, you play a card to destroy 1 monster but it destroys all monsters instead).

Localization bug - the localized text does not match the original text (usually typos or incorrect trasnslation).

Design bug - a mistake that was made on the early development of a product, on a stage when it was only designed "on paper". Usually some design decision that doesn't correspont to the initial demand of a product owner.

UI bug - visual errors in the user interface of the program. For example, a button that is partially shifted outside the visible area. Can be of different severity, from trivial (button slightly moved but is still clickable) to major (button completely unclickable and thus some functionaliy is unavailable).

Compatibility bug. A subtype of functional bugs, where functionality suffers only on some platforms / devices as a result of incorrect code modification.

Text bug. Is a subtype of UI bugs. Since text is part of the UI, it can be missing, misleading, incorrect or irrelevant. Or just contain a typo. Text bugs are usually trivial, but in some cases their severity might be higher. For example, if a button says "save the document", but instead its function is "close without saving" - the result for a user is quite severe - loss of time or even information.

The bug which I am discussing in this particular topic is a text bug. The text on the card says that I can use it as ANY material, while in fact, it can only used as a SPECIFIC material with a very specific requirement: its name must be listed to be valid for substitution. Having false information provided by the card, I was planning the game around this card and its effect, only resulting in a loss because card haven't done what its text said.

Actually, KONAMI fixed this bug in real-life TCG card game. They have changed text on the card in the latest errata to match the intended card's effect:

This card can be used as a substitute for any 1 Fusion Material WHOSE NAME IS SPECIFICALLY LISTED on the Fusion Monster Card...

But they did not fix this bug (irrelevant text) in this game.

[This is a house]

Originally posted by Dark Nero *=_VF_=*:

I think the reason why you do not understand why this is a bug is because you don't fully understand what a bug is. The very definition of a bug is "a difference between actual result and expected result".

There are A LOT of different bug types. Just several examples.
Functional bug - the behavior of part of a program does not match the intended expected behavior (for example, you play a card to destroy 1 monster but it destroys all monsters instead).

Localization bug - the localized text does not match the original text (usually typos or incorrect trasnslation).

Design bug - a mistake that was made on the early development of a product, on a stage when it was only designed "on paper". Usually some design decision that doesn't correspont to the initial demand of a product owner.

UI bug - visual errors in the user interface of the program. For example, a button that is partially shifted outside the visible area. Can be of different severity, from trivial (button slightly moved but is still clickable) to major (button completely unclickable and thus some functionaliy is unavailable).

Compatibility bug. A subtype of functional bugs, where functionality suffers only on some platforms / devices as a result of incorrect code modification.

Text bug. Is a subtype of UI bugs. Since text is part of the UI, it can be missing, misleading, incorrect or irrelevant. Or just contain a typo. Text bugs are usually trivial, but in some cases their severity might be higher. For example, if a button says "save the document", but instead its function is "close without saving" - the result for a user is quite severe - loss of time or even information.

The bug which I am discussing in this particular topic is a text bug. The text on the card says that I can use it as ANY material, while in fact, it can only used as a SPECIFIC material with a very specific requirement: its name must be listed to be valid for substitution. Having false information provided by the card, I was planning the game around this card and its effect, only resulting in a loss because card haven't done what its text said.

Actually, KONAMI fixed this bug in real-life TCG card game. They have changed text on the card in the latest errata to match the intended card's effect:

This card can be used as a substitute for any 1 Fusion Material WHOSE NAME IS SPECIFICALLY LISTED on the Fusion Monster Card...

But they did not fix this bug (irrelevant text) in this game.

I can't be asked to read that wall of text that seemingly has nothing to do with this thread. Can you get to the point already?

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

If you ask an official yugioh tournament judge if what youre trying to do is a legal play, then he would say no. The cards written like this in real life too. You just have to stop interpreting it wrong.

[DUBINA]

Originally posted by Ichmag:

If you ask an official yugioh tournament judge if what youre trying to do is a legal play, then he would say no. The cards written like this in real life too. You just have to stop interpreting it wrong.

he will say that the judge is bugged.

[Dark Nero *=_VF_=*]

Originally posted by politediligence:

So out of curiosity, where in the card text for Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird does it specifically list Knight of the Swamp by name

For your curiosity, nowhere in the card text for Knight of the Swamp is said that the name must be specifically listed. I've already repeated this multiple times, and this is not that hard to understand, but for whatever reason you are still failing. Since I don't know the reason, I cannot help you further.

Originally posted by This is a house:

I can't be asked to read that wall of text that seemingly has nothing to do with this thread. Can you get to the point already?

I have explained everything as detailed so that even the dumbest person out of those who is mentally able to play TCG would have understood. If you are still unable to understand simple info that even kids can - than its your fault, I've put enough effort to help you.