Cards not working as they should

[Amethyst Nya :3]

This doesn't come up too often but every once in a while the game proceeds mess up a cards' effects. From the examples I know of this is most often with cards and archetypes that are less common than others. a good example that happened for me today. I'm using a spellcaster deck (spell counters) in the field I have three monsters, one equiped with wonder wand, and secret sanctuary of the spellcasters on the field. I'm playing bandit keith challange deck, scrap. To make this shorter-he has no spell/trap on field, he special summons a non-spellcaster monster, said monster attacks that turn. That should be impossible because of secret sanctuary. All the requirements are filled, got spellcasters on my side, a face up spell other than secret. Sucks.

So I wonder what other gaps have you found in game?

[Sigma]

Are you certain your opponent didn't have a field spell face up?
Also was it possible the monster bandit keith had was unaffected by spell cards?

[Amethyst Nya :3]

no the monsters they had was scrap kong, scrap golem and scrap archfiend, no pendulum was up and no field spell, if there was the field would have the graphic on, when I said they had no spell/traps I meant nothing.

[MLG Scribblenaut PRO]

hard to say whats going on unless you can recreate this problem with screenshots so we could see the field.

i know you can get past secret sanctuary with trigger effects due to chain order and that confused people here before but i cant think how it could work for attacking.

might also be something to do with scrap archfiend being a non-effect monster but i dont see how with what you describe. either of you could have had graveyard effect shenanigans as well. this game has so many counter intuitive rulings its easy to miss something so without actually being able to see what both of you played it would be difficult to say what went wrong.

[DUBINA]

pendulum monsters are considered as continious spell cards in the pendulum zone, maybe thats what confused you.

[Amethyst Nya :3]

I already stated they didn't have any on the field
all they had was those monsters nothing else

[Amethyst Nya :3]

though since I first posted, I've seen Secret Sanctuary work as it is supposed to, so it could have been a one off glitch

[Amethyst Nya :3]

okay something just happened right now, I got screenshots this time I'm really confused.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1104763327
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1104763771

got screenshots this time. Okay here is the deal, I had ultimate inscet lv1 on field, I fiendish chained ragnazero, on the comp's turn they summoned bujinji wolf and attacked my insect, I used doulbe passe. That should have made it a direct attack instead, and saved my monster, but then the computer proceeded to destroy my monster. you can see they only have one card in the grave, something used in a earlier turn. it's just really annoying.

oh to clarify: that formation yoko was done on their main phase, nothing was destroyed with its effect.

[MLG Scribblenaut PRO]

its because insect lv1 has 0 attack. part of doble passe's effect is that the monster can attack directly next turn. 0 attack monsters are weird in that they can attack but they do no damage. in yugioh rules for some cards this doesnt satisfy the attack part of the condition meaning the effect cant activate properly. if ALL parts of a card's activation are not satisfied at once, then you get none of the effects, unfortunately.

the rulings for 0 attack monsters and ? attack monsters is about a mile long when it comes to stuff like this.

the game is VERY literal.. to this point of stupidty some times lol

[Amethyst Nya :3]

well okay, that's pretty dumb like you said. it should just work as normal, no real reason for it not to. Well that's one mystery solved.

[obelisk4]

Originally posted by Amethyst Nya :3:

it should just work as normal, no real reason for it not to.

Well, no. There is a reason like wertasgh said. A monster with 0 ATK can´t do battle damage.

[DUBINA]

the trap was activated having the attack position monster as cost condition, the effect could not be resolved since there was no effect damage inflicted.