Screw Bethesda, "Prey (2017)" should have been called Talos I.

[Kindred Spirit]

Through discussions on the Rune 2 forums about how Human Head screwed over that game as audition to become also-ran Roundhouse Studio on Redfall (so from the frying pan into the toilet), arose the point of how this game was boycotted because of the treatment of Human Head's Prey franchise.

Bethesda did a number on Human Head over Prey 2, it's not funny. Predatory milestone calls to acquire more of the company was just a small part. (This is reminiscent of the 1% review score screw Obsidian received on Fallout: New Vegas and being denied the bonus.)

Then Bethesda's marketing suits had Raphael Colantonio lie about liking having his game with this name. Then Prey (2006) was removed from sale from the Steam store when this game was released. This added into the rub towards the previous fans and many onlookers watching Bethesda botch the brand.

This is a great tribute to System Shock, a lot better than what Warren Spector did in selling the rights to System Shock 3 to Tencent so he can make more Redfalls of his own after having not made a decent immsim in 20+ years.

Talos I didn't deserve this. We could have been playing a sequel right now.

[potato]

Originally posted by Chief Redpill:

Talos I didn't deserve this. We could have been playing a sequel right now.

the name wouldn't have changed the outcome

[Kindred Spirit]

Originally posted by potato:

the name wouldn't have changed the outcome

It directly contributed to Raphael Colantonio leaving Arkane about two months after release.

[potato]

and? it wouldn't have made the game sell more, in fact it would've been the opposite

[Kindred Spirit]

Originally posted by potato:

and? it wouldn't have made the game sell more, in fact it would've been the opposite

LOL the only ones who believed attaching "Prey" to this game did it any favors are the bellends in Bethesda's marketing department and the press slurping on it. This was why they had Raphael Colantonio lie.

If it were a new Arkane IP spiritual successor to System Shock? People WERE wildly anticipating something like that. The backlash started with the name. (That means cancelled pre-orders when they found out that there was no connection, just a name.)

But I'm sure you know that and you're just playing contrarian for lulz.

[Lar Dass]

Ill admit, i think the name shoulda been neuroshock or something, but the name didnt really make too much difference, just a bunch of smoothbrains thinking this game is their beloved prey 2006, then realising it isnt, then writing a hate thread bashing the game

[Kindred Spirit]

Originally posted by Lar Dass:

Ill admit, i think the name shoulda been neuroshock or something, but the name didnt really make too much difference, just a bunch of smoothbrains thinking this game is their beloved prey 2006, then realising it isnt, then writing a hate thread bashing the game

Mostly bashing Bethesda because of how they treated Human Head's Prey 2, and refusing to buy this game. There were a few who had weird FPS expectations about the design, but those were mostly just some DOOMB kids who wandered in and tried to shotgun everything to the face.

The immersive sim audience is small enough that reputation spreads quick, like what Warren Spector has made of his career in taking the Epic Mickey out of everyone while providing no decent immersive sims in 20+ years. Underworld Ascendant showed how fast that audience can leave a game, despite backing it. The same audience that was maintaining Ultima Underworld for longer than Warren Spector has made a decent game.

A lot of former talent just aren't what they use to be, like Human Head's Chris Rhinehart. The sympathy he gathered from Human Head's Prey 2 actually worked in reverse to gain that much more vilification for what he did to everyone who bought Rune 2. All so he can work on Redfall. Bethesda likes to ruin everything it touches by spreading the misery between their audiences.

[ULTRA]

If you want to kiss Raphael Colantonio on the lips then you should probably know he wanted to call it "Typhon" or "Starseed," not "Talos I" or "Neuroshock," also "Neuroshock" would have made the Bioshock mouthbreathers think it were related to that franchise.