If you have any dignity, then you will boycott PREY and Bethesda.

[MaximeMartyr]

Greeting players-mates!
Please allow me to show you something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKw_VUuZjCE

Okay, you understood?
Bethesda was so impressed by Prey 2 that they wanted to own its developer: Human Head Studio.
But Human Head Studio didn't want to belong to a publisher and wanted to remain free to work with any publisher that they feel like.
Then Bethesda reacted like a man who wants a woman but the woman doesn't want him so the man gets mad and does everything to make the woman suffer out of revenge.
That is exactly how Bethesda reacted to Human Head Studio declining to belong to Bethesda.
Bethesda has sabotaged a wonderful video game almost ready to release out of revenge.
Don't you find Bethesda lame and disgusting from this point?
Now that you know what Bethesda has done and if you have any sense of justice and love for video games, then you can't forgive Bethesda and you don't want to reward them.
Then you don't want to make Bethesda earn money and you shall boycott the incoming Prey masquerade and everything which would make Bethesda earn money from now on.
Because if you do buy something which makes Bethesda earn money, then you act as if you don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about what Bethesda has done and you reward them for their bad deeds.
So from player to player, for the sake of video games and for players' dignity, we shall all boycott Bethesda.
Thank you for listening to what a player-mate had to say and thank you if you do decide to participate at boycott for the sake of justice, dignity, and love of video games.
Thank you for feeling concerned and not let greedy publishers get away after wasting promising video games.

Think about it. Why everyone runs after money? Because money allows to do things. Money is power. The more we have money, the more we can do things, the more we have power. Think about it, each time that we spend money, we bring some power to someone. Each time that we boycott, we don't bring power to someone. Do you understand? Each time that we spend money or boycott, we kinda vote for who we want to make more or less powerful.

Knowing that, and not wanting to bring power to a publisher who wastes promising video games out of greed, you understand why you must boycott Bethesda and any other publisher that you know wastes promising video games.
Because that is our only way to us, players, to defend video games.

But, out of the topic but still kinda in, this applies to everything, not only video games.
In a society where the real power is money, our only real power is to choose what we do of our money.
We all are more powerful than the said powerful persons at the top of our society want to make us believe.
Because think about it, the said powerful persons at the top of our society need our money in order to remain powerful.
They can't remain powerful without our money.
So they need us all much more that they want to make us believe.
They want to make us believe that we are weak and meaningless, they want to make us believe that in order to remain over us, but the truth is, they are helpless without us.
Or more specifically, they are helpless without our money.
Think about it, every each of us is more powerful than they want to make us believe, we are not that meaningless. ;-)
So let's use our power well. Let's choose wisely who we give our money to, so who we bring some power to, and so, for what society we vote for. ;-)

Edit: Here is a demo of Prey 2 and I highly recommend to you to read its commentaries, they are pretty interesting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkHZfjK5z4

Moreover, I learned that Bethesda has not done this to only one developer.
It seems that such disgusting moves are usual by Bethesda.
Here is another story that I was told and that I share with you:
Bethesda has done exactly the same to Arkane and Dishonored 2 that they have done to Human Head Studio and Prey 2.
It's the same thing. Additional funding was given at each milestone reached in development. For a while everything was going fine, but with time Bethesda became more and more strict about acknowledging the milestones, forcing Arkane to go back and redo their work.
If I remember correctly there was a story about Bethesda complaining a level was too bright or something, the dev responsible was so fed up that they made no changes at all to it and resubmitted the same level a week later, at which point Bethesda complained it was too dark and they had to go back and make it brighter.
The funding from the last milestone would run out so they were forced to take out loans to pay for paychecks and expenses until the next milestone was reached. Eventually they had to go to Bethesda and say they were declaring bankruptcy and they wouldn't be finishing the game. Bethesda offered to pay off their loans in exchange to selling the studio to them for next to nothing. Arkane did, and apparently the milestones went back to being reached on schedule.

So Arkane has been victim of Bethesda's greed and dirty tricks to own a developer, pushed to bankruptcy and forced to accept to be bought by and to belong to Bethesda.
Right now, I see Bethesda as a man who doesn't accept to be said no when he wants a woman and who rapes women who don't want to offer themselve to him.
To sign a contract with Bethesda is the same as to sign your sentence to death or to slavery.
And I feel as if buying a video game published by Bethesda is the same as buying a product made by slaves and support slavery...

[Yhwach]

Nah

[MaximeMartyr]

Originally posted by Excaliber The Slav:

i dont care bout prey 2

Didn't you see the video? Didn't you see how awesome it was going to be?
Actually it is because it was so amazing that Bethesda wanted to own its developpers that much.
Are you not disgusted at Bethesda to have prevented you to play such a masterpiece?

[Machine Spirit]

Prey 2 demo hasnt aged well. Ive said this in other posts that demos at events like E3 are not a true representation of the finished game so to compare the Prey 2 demo to Prey is pointless.

I'm well aware of the Human Head Studios vs Bethesda history, from what I have read it was bad and Bethesda could have handled the situation differently? I can't judge the situation based off one side of the story, it just wouldnt be fair.

Why you are on a crusade to make sure the talented developers involved in the creation of this Prey game get punished for the decisions of executives and people of influence in Bethesda is beyond me, they have enough problems putting up with Bethesda rediculous review policy which will probably kill the game sales anyway.

Ive worked for companies that make bad decisons, I still turned up for work the next day because a company is not one thing to be hated, it is a constantly evolving machine.

I have diginity and I will judge Prey off the previews and reviews, I still have my dignity.

[[deleted]]

Originally posted by MaximeMartyr:

Originally posted by Excaliber The Slav:

i dont care bout prey 2

Didn't you see the video? Didn't you see how awesome it was going to be?
Actually it is because it was so amazing that Bethesda wanted to own its developpers that much.
Are you not disgusted at Bethesda to have prevented you to play such a masterpiece?

im not disgusted, this seems like the perfect reboot, and prey 2 would have been pretty boring after some hours, since it would have been repetitive bounty hunting till you bump into tommy

[Coldhands]

No, I think this game looks cool, and I don't see the point in trying to punish Arkane for something they didn't do.

[paulo]

Originally posted by Excaliber The Slav:

Originally posted by MaximeMartyr:

Didn't you see the video? Didn't you see how awesome it was going to be?
Actually it is because it was so amazing that Bethesda wanted to own its developpers that much.
Are you not disgusted at Bethesda to have prevented you to play such a masterpiece?

im not disgusted, this seems like the perfect reboot, and prey 2 would have been pretty boring after some hours, since it would have been repetitive bounty hunting till you bump into tommy

Arkane's so-called "Prey" never was meant to be a "reboot" of the original -- it was just another sci-horror game, until the morons at Bethesda gave the order to Arkane to use the name "Prey" on it. And if Prey 2 was different fro the original game., you can thank to those idiots at Bethesda Marketing! they were the ones that came saying that "Tommy was too whiny to be the protagonist of this game" and that "no one would identify yourself with all that spiritual mambo-jambo". Finally, how you know that the missions would be repetitive? make me a favor, visit Nathan Cheever's channel on YouTube and ask him about Prey 2: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7JzrwKNIBVtm8mm4PMvkQw

[Proud Son of Heaven]

I pre-ordered an extra copy thanks to this thread.

EDIT: Paulo I thought you were going to go and stay go?

[paulo]

Go to hell. I returned and I am here to stay.

[Proud Son of Heaven]

Originally posted by paulo:

Go to hell. I returned and I am here to stay.

Good, I could use a laugh!

[MaximeMartyr]

Originally posted by paulo:

Originally posted by Excaliber The Slav:

im not disgusted, this seems like the perfect reboot, and prey 2 would have been pretty boring after some hours, since it would have been repetitive bounty hunting till you bump into tommy

Arkane's so-called "Prey" never was meant to be a "reboot" of the original -- it was just another sci-horror game, until the morons at Bethesda gave the order to Arkane to use the name "Prey" on it. And if Prey 2 was different fro the original game., you can thank to those idiots at Bethesda Marketing! they were the ones that came saying that "Tommy was too whiny to be the protagonist of this game" and that "no one would identify yourself with all that spiritual mambo-jambo". Finally, how you know that the missions would be repetitive? make me a favor, visit Nathan Cheever's channel on YouTube and ask him about Prey 2: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7JzrwKNIBVtm8mm4PMvkQw

Thank you for sharing this video again! You decidedly are a good source of informations! =-D
I recommend to everyone here to read the commentaries into this video page, they are pretty interesting...
Moreover, I'm gonna to add this video into the first post to make sure that it is visible.
And about Bethesda saying that Tommy was not a good protagonist. Well he is the protagonist of the first original Prey and according to the sales of this video game, I would say that Tommy is not that bad. But it is obvious that it is one more idioty made in Bethesda.

[Richard Upton Pickman]

Originally posted by KOEH🐸RUMEHLU:

I pre-ordered an extra copy thanks to this thread.

EDIT: Paulo I thought you were going to go and stay go?

I hope for you this doesnt end like Dishonored 2 or that your PC can compensate if they havent learned from that. In the end if you buy an extra copy or not wont change anything. If arkhane screwed up they might have a hard time getting back from that but bethesda makes money anyway.

The game will sell enough to make a huge amount of money because it has a lot of advertising as well as an interesting concept. Boycotting it only works if there is a massive amount of people behind it so again no chance this thread and the people in it make a difference. Only arkhane not being used for game production or getting less money is possible if the results they show dont make players/bethesda happy.

[Proud Son of Heaven]

Originally posted by Richard Upton Pickman:

I hope for you this doesnt end like Dishonored 2 or that your PC can compensate if they havent learned from that. In the end if you buy an extra copy or not wont change anything. If arkhane screwed up they might have a hard time getting back from that but bethesda makes money anyway.

The game will sell enough to make a huge amount of money because it has a lot of advertising as well as an interesting concept. Boycotting it only works if there is a massive amount of people behind it so again no chance this thread and the people in it make a difference. Only arkhane not being used for game production or getting less money is possible if the results they show dont make players/bethesda happy.

My PC should be good enough to run it at 1080p60, and if it isn't I'll be one of the first people on here to complain about it.
I want Arkane to do a good job and hopefully be rewarded for it because I love Arx Fatalis, but if they don't then I have a duty to say so and inform others. That said, I'm not going to punish them for something they didn't do (cancel Prey 2) nor judge the game before it's out, although from what we've seen so far it looks like an immensely fun immersive sim.

[MaximeMartyr]

Originally posted by Richard Upton Pickman:

Originally posted by KOEH🐸RUMEHLU:

I pre-ordered an extra copy thanks to this thread.

EDIT: Paulo I thought you were going to go and stay go?

I hope for you this doesnt end like Dishonored 2 or that your PC can compensate if they havent learned from that. In the end if you buy an extra copy or not wont change anything. If arkhane screwed up they might have a hard time getting back from that but bethesda makes money anyway.

The game will sell enough to make a huge amount of money because it has a lot of advertising as well as an interesting concept. Boycotting it only works if there is a massive amount of people behind it so again no chance this thread and the people in it make a difference. Only arkhane not being used for game production or getting less money is possible if the results they show dont make players/bethesda happy.

You're right. A boycott is effective only if it is massively supported.
But I disagree that we don't have a chance to make a difference.
Let me tell you a story:

In a forest, there was a large and tall tree, inside which lived a crowd of birds.
And all of this crowd sings, plays, chats...lives in harmony.
But one day, happens a disaster, the tree is on fire, the birds fly and from the sky, helpless, they watch the tree being consumed.
Through the smoke though, they notice a tiny bird who flies to the river, takes a drop of water into his beak, then flies to the tree, drop the drop of water on it, then flies to the river, takes a drop of water into his beak, then flies to the tree, drop the drop of water on it, then keeps doing it again and again.
And this tiny bird, is hummingbird, you know, this tiny colourful bird who has a long beak that he uses to suck nectar from flowers.
"What the hell, hummingbird?!? What the hell are you doing?!? You are not seriously thinking that you can put out the fire with a single tiny drop of water, are you?!? Why are you even trying when you know that you have no chance of succeed? Come on, give it up and join us! We accept fate and you better accept too."
"I know it well, that I have no chance to put out the fire with a drop of water. But I'm doing my part. And if each one would do their part, then there wouldn't be only a drop of water to put out the fire."
The birds glance at each other, baffled. And in a single move, they fly to the river, take a drop of water into their beak, fly to the tree, drop their drop of water on it, then fly to the river, take a drop of water into their beak, then fly to the tree, drop their drop of water on it, then keep doing it again and again.
And all of these tiny drops of water all gathered make a rain which puts out the fire.
From this day, the tree has healed, harmony has returned within it, and each bird remember that they must do their part for keeping it healthy.

If the tiny hummingbird has thought "That is useless. Even if I do my part, others don't do theirs. I have no chance to make a difference with a drop of water. So why would I even try? I better accept how things are and give it up.", if he had given up what he cares for, if he wouldn't have stayed determined to do his part, then his determination wouldn't have inspired others, others wouldn't have made their part, they wouldn't have added their drop to his, their drops wouldn't have gathered and made a rain, the rain wouldn't have put out the fire, the tree would have burned to ashes, no difference would have been made.
Do you get the point? ;-)

Bethesda spreads advertising for buying their games, then let's spread advertising for not buying their games.
This is what I am doing here and elsewhere and I encourage you to spread the word where you can. ;-)

[MaximeMartyr]

Originally posted by KOEH🐸RUMEHLU:

Originally posted by Richard Upton Pickman:

I hope for you this doesnt end like Dishonored 2 or that your PC can compensate if they havent learned from that. In the end if you buy an extra copy or not wont change anything. If arkhane screwed up they might have a hard time getting back from that but bethesda makes money anyway.

The game will sell enough to make a huge amount of money because it has a lot of advertising as well as an interesting concept. Boycotting it only works if there is a massive amount of people behind it so again no chance this thread and the people in it make a difference. Only arkhane not being used for game production or getting less money is possible if the results they show dont make players/bethesda happy.

My PC should be good enough to run it at 1080p60, and if it isn't I'll be one of the first people on here to complain about it.
I want Arkane to do a good job and hopefully be rewarded for it because I love Arx Fatalis, but if they don't then I have a duty to say so and inform others. That said, I'm not going to punish them for something they didn't do (cancel Prey 2) nor judge the game before it's out, although from what we've seen so far it looks like an immensely fun immersive sim.

You seem to not understand that since Arkane got eaten by Bethesda and as long as they remain Bethesda's slaves, buying the games that they make don't reward the slaves, it rewards the slaver.
When you buy a pair of Nike, you don't serioulsy believe that you reward the children in Asia who make them? You are aware that you reward the greedy Nike shareholders who enslave children in countries without a social protection because people in these countries are cheap manpower that we can do anything with them since their country doesn't protect them.
I edited my first post because I added some things. I suggest you to take knowledge of the new additions.
And thank you for listening.

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by MaximeMartyr:

You seem to not understand that since Arkane got eaten by Bethesda and as long as they remain Bethesda's slaves, buying the games that they make don't reward the slaves, it rewards the slaver.

... Wow.