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Paraplexis?
So this word turned up in books in the Prey world, a quick Google search turned up nothing related. So any info?
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Seems to be a degenerative disease. My understanding is that those who suffer from it can't receive neuromods, require medicine or they will die, and people suffering from it are barred from working aboard Talos 1
Messaggio originale di Paladin Maraxus:
Seems to be a degenerative disease. My understanding is that those who suffer from it can't receive neuromods, require medicine or they will die, and people suffering from it are barred from working aboard Talos 1

That's what I was getting too, a real world thing called parapraxis aka a Freudian Slip is a real thing and not at all related but would be funny if it was even though its only spelt a little like the other.
From what I could gather reading through the medical definitions of the component and related words, it's a paralysis stemming from damage to the neural network.
Peeps with Paraplexis can't use Neuromods.
Messaggio originale di Awesome Applesauce:
So this word turned up in books in the Prey world, a quick Google search turned up nothing related. So any info?

Sorry to sound stupid or silly, but do you mean the effects of the disease in-game, or if it has a real-life counterpart?

In the story, Paraplexis is a neurological disease of the brain, meaning that many of the brain cells cannot be mapped for Neuromod use. It also causes the affected patient to see "White Spots" in their vision, slowly degenerate their nervous system and immune system, weakening and/or paralysis of limbs and eventual death when not treated. To treat Paraplexis, the user must have regular booster shots injected directly into their neck to help boost their systems and combat the disease.

It's unknown if it can be 100% cured. Not that I've seen anyway.

In the Real World, Paraplexis does not exist, however it might be a reference to the closely spelt "Parapraxis" or "Freudian Slip". Direct Wikipedia quote below:

Messaggio originale di Wikipedia:
A Freudian slip, also called parapraxis, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of an unconscious subdued wish or internal train of thought. The concept is part of classical psychoanalysis.

Classical examples of parapraxes involve slips of the tongue and of the pen, but psychoanalytic theory also embraces misreadings, mishearings, temporary forgettings, and the mislaying and losing of objects.
Yeah in-game. So this has been in my head and bouncing around for a while, it sounds to me like they invented a fake disease of the nervous system so that they wouldn't offend anyone with something real that resulted in a slowly deteriorating nervous system like Alzheimers disease, Lou Gehrig's disease, Parkinson's Disease and so on. Its a tough spot and the game poses icky questions about what humans really are too, if the wrong people hear about it Bethsoda could have protestors or something. Spoilers I haven't finished the game yet because my saves corrupted 35 hours in but would I be turned down from donating a neuromod because I suffer from major depression? "Yeah you can buy this cool neuromod that instantly makes you an engineer but you'll randomly spend a day or two out of every month unable to get out of bed from being steeped in existential dread." Dunno, I still think I'd rather come across some documents in the marketing offices talking about rejecting folks with depression than the game not be straight with me.
With a short Google search, the closest word that relates to Paraplexis is Paraplegia (leg paralysis), in which para- means an offshoot (legs) and plegia- meaning paralysis. Paraplexis is probably a reference to Paraplegia, but since it affects people differently it's given a different suffix.

Para still refers to the legs (because as you can see, it still paralyzes the legs), but the suffix (actually 'plexus', but when referring to multiple it can be called 'plexuses', or the non-english-conforming 'plexis') plexis means 'many branching networks of vessels or nerves'. So, if I understand Paraplexis from just the name, I would say that it's similar to leg paralysis, except for the fact that it doesn't just affect the nerves of the legs.

Tl;dr Paraplexis is something that messes with your nerves, most likely nerves of the lower body and cervical plexus (brain).
Messaggio originale di King Maraxus:
Seems to be a degenerative disease. My understanding is that those who suffer from it can't receive neuromods, require medicine or they will die, and people suffering from it are barred from working aboard Talos 1

They can't work aboard Talos 1 specifically because they can't receive Neuromods. All employees receive Neuromods so TranStar can memory wipe them should they ever choose to leave.
Now this will blow your mind.....Paraplexis IS the Typhon damage to the brain:
https://postimg.org/image/w0syyzryr/


And here's the prototype of a neuromod:
https://postimg.org/image/rewuqne5f/


Ultima modifica da hekoone; 18 mar 2018, ore 18:40
Messaggio originale di Awesome Applesauce:
Spoilers I haven't finished the game yet because my saves corrupted 35 hours in but would I be turned down from donating a neuromod because I suffer from major depression? "Yeah you can buy this cool neuromod that instantly makes you an engineer but you'll randomly spend a day or two out of every month unable to get out of bed from being steeped in existential dread." Dunno, I still think I'd rather come across some documents in the marketing offices talking about rejecting folks with depression than the game not be straight with me.

Brilliant question! I hadn't thought of that. It depends how much of the brain the neuromod captures, I suppose. It can't be total, otherwise when you applied a neuromod you'd flash your brain with somebody else's memories. When they're making neuromods of musicians they seem to record the brain as the musician is playing, so perhaps it just captures the parts of the brain which are active at the time. But if one was experiencing an attack of depression when their brain was being sampled, who knows - it may well affect things. Perhaps it would be more a case of "You can buy this neuromod which makes you an engineer, but whenever you do any engineering you're hit by a wave of pure desolation."

Transtar aren't the most ethical of companies, though, so whether that disqualified you would be a toss-up between their desire to maintain a good, uniform quality of product and their not giving a rat's ass about any human suffering they inflict.
Hi. I’m using Phantom Genesis on this thread to resurrect it. And have it kill this obnoxious weaver for me.

There are conflicting reports regarding paraplexis and neuromods. They all agree the condition prevents its victims from RECEIVING neuromods, but at least one source claims that the brain of a paraplexis patient can still be mapped in order to create new neuromods.

Also, this is just a guess, but I think they (TranStar) are able to map new neuromods without scooping things like clinical depression along with the target skills.
Couple reasons: 1) clinical depression is, to the best of my knowledge, caused by an imbalance of chemicals in the brain, and not an artifact of specific neural pathways. I doubt they’re COMPLETELY unrelated to one another, but since real-life antidepressants don’t remap my memories and skill sets, I think they’re separate enough to...be kept separate, during the brain-mapping process.

2) while there are several texts, audio logs, “live” conversations, and plot points mentioning personality drift as a result of neuromod installation (and removal), there is no mention of neuromods causing spontaneous generation of mental illnesses in their recipients...with the exception of Morgan, but that was a special case, since they probably installed and removed neuromods more times than anyone else on Talos 1, and possibly more than anyone else on EARTH. During their testing.

I wanna finish up by saying it’s weird how neuromods can give you more health, a longer lifespan, and the ability to lift heavy things. Psychic powers? Sure. That’s brain stuff. Carrying a reployer? I don’t see how new neural maps can help with that.
Messaggio originale di Thetimewarpx3:
Also, this is just a guess, but I think they (TranStar) are able to map new neuromods without scooping things like clinical depression along with the target skills.
Couple reasons: 1) clinical depression is, to the best of my knowledge, caused by an imbalance of chemicals in the brain, and not an artifact of specific neural pathways. I doubt they’re COMPLETELY unrelated to one another, but since real-life antidepressants don’t remap my memories and skill sets, I think they’re separate enough to...be kept separate, during the brain-mapping process.

Also what not about emotions? I'm actually on the fence about this one. It's easy to think of the brain as a bunch of connections that respond to inputs and produce outputs, but the chemicle soup it floats in change how those connections work. Quick side note, the big problem to me with the classic brain-in-jar question (How do you know you aren't a brain in a jar with electrodes wired to your stem that exactly replicated bodily sensations) is that you'd know once you drank a cup of coffee and it didn't wake you up, that's on the chemicle side. So if you upload someone's tallent and download it into someone else, is it ever going to work right in their unique mind slurry? Like someone else said before, will the tallents only work as advertized when you get sad, picture your 9th birthday or eat an entire box of snack cakes because that's the chemicle state of the body the brain was in when the upload was taken?

Why stop at tallents? Why not suck out everything but self image then make an army of Morgans and run them in parallel to do the experiments faster? Actually... that sounds like a kick ass vacation, upload all of my mind, download it into some other piece of meat, have... vacation, upload again later, download back into my body... actually never mind I've seen a sorta bad movie and read a really good book series based on that idea.

I wanna finish up by saying it’s weird how neuromods can give you more health, a longer lifespan, and the ability to lift heavy things. Psychic powers? Sure. That’s brain stuff. Carrying a reployer? I don’t see how new neural maps can help with that.

This was my thought. As someone who's had to learn how to work out without hurting themselves I can say that half of exercising is keeping good form to make the exercises effectice, which you learn through practice. While the other half is proper conditioning which keeps your muscles from tearing away from your ligiments which you develop through repeatedly lifting things. Now I gotta wonder, if you download the muscle memory of a 700lb strongman while not being one yourself... would you have a bad time? Would you forget that you can scratch your back easily, don't have to eat 50,000 calories a day to live and don't have the proportions to lift large granite spheres how you think you should be lifting them?
I guess this is from Paraplegia probably (which means partiala paralysis OR brain damage related or unrelated to it).
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