*SPOILERS* Dissecting the story and ending

[PanicButton]

So you are a a typhon put into a "simulation" which was based on Morgan's memories from Talos-1. Earth was overrun by aliens a long time ago. Morgan died, and some of the crew lives on as AI in oprator (like January)

I get most of it, but some things are unclear/up for debate...

-How much of the events do you think actually happened, and how much was added for the sake of simulation?

-You can find diaries about a survivor of an unknown disaster. (how he got away in a military truck, and how he lost his dog) Was that about the typhon invasion? If so why was the diary on Talos?

-Who the hell is October? There was a mention of him in one of Morgan's logs, saying October was made to guide him...but so was December and January....were there more?....maybe he made one in every phase of his testing before he got his memory wiped?

-Was there another station? There's a log describing how a shuttle pilot found a completeley dark station some distance away from Talos-1.

[Majestic]

I think the 'earlier' models are character traits or personality tests designed to test the psyche of the Typhon. Because following december fails the simulation and gets you killed.

For the memories to be vivid though, i'd assume the surroundings/assets are real but the story unfolding isn't. Morgan being dead, he/she apparently did not really survive.

[Daliena]

The rest I'm not in a good state to comment on in my sleep-deprived state, but I would think the dark station mentioned in the log is Argus Station. Dahl makes at least one mention of it, asking "Is this Argus Station?" when his neuromods are pulled. Likely a secret station for TranStar to hold their other stuff that they don't want to be seen by anyone, like the military operators?

[Majestic]

Could be the "secret location" ?

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by PanicButton:

How much of the events do you think actually happened, and how much was added for the sake of simulation?

Theoretically, it's possible that NONE of it actually happened and that Talos 1 isn't even a real place. But I like to think that it all actually happened, and you're playing the roll of Morgan during the outbreak, being presented with the same choices he was. I would guess that the real Morgan failed, which is why the typhon made it to Earth. But the point of the test you're put through isn't to beat the typhon, but create a typhon that can empathize with humans, so you don't need to succeed, just choose.

Originally posted by PanicButton:

-You can find diaries about a survivor of an unknown disaster. (how he got away in a military truck, and how he lost his dog) Was that about the typhon invasion? If so why was the diary on Talos?

It might have been, yeah. I didn't think about that. I assumed it was an Earth conflict that Elazar had lived through, since there are references to that one of her logs, but yeah, it could totally be the typhon invasion.

Originally posted by PanicButton:

-Who the hell is October? There was a mention of him in one of Morgan's logs, saying October was made to guide him...but so was December and January....were there more?....maybe he made one in every phase of his testing before he got his memory wiped?

I believe that October is the half finished operator you find in Morgan's cabin, in Crew Quarters. Assuming that you're reliving memories of a real event, I would guess that October was being designed by another "version" of Morgan, in between neuromod tests, as he was rediscovering what was going on again. Since his personality was shifting over the course of the repeated tests, I'd guess that October served the same function as January and December, but involved a third plan of how to deal with the situation.

Originally posted by PanicButton:

-Was there another station? There's a log describing how a shuttle pilot found a completeley dark station some distance away from Talos-1.

Again, assuming that you're reliving actual memories of something that happened, yeah. There's a big military station, Argus Base, I think it's called, out there in orbit too. It is implied that test subjects leaving Talos 1 are sent there before returning to earth (possibly not ever returning at all). It appears that no one on Talos 1 knows of its existence, but it is used by the Transtar board of directors and is where Dahl launched from.

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by Majestic:

Could be the "secret location" ?

Could be. If the events of the game were things that actually happened in the past, then it seems unlikely that Talos 1 survived (or at least is at all safe), so I doubt that's the "Hidden Location." And Earth appears to be pretty ... F'd, so it doesn't seem like you'd be there either.
It'd be a cool setting for future DLC.

[PanicButton]

The game goes out of it's way to make you unsure about what Morgan really wants/wanted, and then at the end gives you another twist and ends before you could get any answers....usually I like ambiguous ending....not in this case though.

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Originally posted by Majestic:

Could be the "secret location" ?

Could be. If the events of the game were things that actually happened in the past, then it seems unlikely that Talos 1 survived (or at least is at all safe), so I doubt that's the "Hidden Location." And Earth appears to be pretty ... F'd, so it doesn't seem like you'd be there either.
It'd be a cool setting for future DLC.

Well the nullwave ending would actually clear Talos-1, and make it a lot safer place than earth since by the time the Talos incident happened, someone probably already carried a typhon back to Earth unknowinlgy...

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Again, assuming that you're reliving actual memories of something that happened, yeah. There's a big military station, Argus Base, I think it's called, out there in orbit too. It is implied that test subjects leaving Talos 1 are sent there before returning to earth (possibly not ever returning at all). It appears that no one on Talos 1 knows of its existence, but it is used by the Transtar board of directors and is where Dahl launched from.

Yeah I remember that audio log. The shuttles disappear for 8-10 minutes, then reappear on a slightly different trajectory. Don't think a single test subject made it

[Smithy]

Every time Morgan's memory was wiped from neuromod removal it changed him, and a lot more drastically than in other people. This changed who he was on a principal and moral level and he created an operator to guide future him each time believing that the current him was correct. One in October, one in December and one in the following January. It is unknown whether he built one in November. There are emails about a rogue operator that caused issues on the station but we don't know which operator they refer to. It was likely programmed by Morgan to tamper with the station to achieve whatever he believed to be right at the time but failed.

I like to think that the reconstruction was based entirely on Morgan's memories and that everything other than the choices you make happened. We can never know what choices Morgan actually made because that depends entirely on what kind of person he was during this memory wipe.

As for the station, as someone else said that is Argus station. It might be owned as a coalition between Transtar and the Russian government since we know there is a military ship there. Or it could just be where Transtar keep their 'blackboxed' projects. We know that the 'volunteers' (those fortunate enough to leave Talos 1) all end up taking a trip there but we don't know for what purpose exactly, though I have a theory it's to hand them and their typhon neuromods off as military assets to Russia.

[Daliena]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Originally posted by PanicButton:

How much of the events do you think actually happened, and how much was added for the sake of simulation?

Theoretically, it's possible that NONE of it actually happened and that Talos 1 isn't even a real place. But I like to think that it all actually happened, and you're playing the roll of Morgan during the outbreak, being presented with the same choices he was. I would guess that the real Morgan failed, which is why the typhon made it to Earth.

It's also possible that the Typhon arrived on Earth aboard the Advent shuttle. You may remember that on the bridge you find captain Jada Marks having considered whether or not to trigger the scuttling charges, and whatever she may or may not have had time to decide, the shuttle is still intact when you arrive and find her dead.

The shuttle left 30 minutes before the first record of the containment breach, and it's possible that it wasn't spotted immediately and it could be carrying a Mimic or several to Earth..

[PanicButton]

So I went back and read the survivor's notes again. Still not clear what he describes exactly

In part one he says a plane just turned into glitter in the air...without a sound. In part 3 hey says that now he knows it was just an accident. "Scientist who thought they knew everything. But they did not."

Originally posted by Daliena:

It's also possible that the Typhon arrived on Earth aboard the Advent shuttle. You may remember that on the bridge you find captain Jada Marks having considered whether or not to trigger the scuttling charges, and whatever she may or may not have had time to decide, the shuttle is still intact when you arrive and find her dead.

The shuttle left 30 minutes before the first record of the containment breach, and it's possible that it wasn't spotted immediately and it could be carrying a Mimic or several to Earth..

Could be. Or an escape pod....you can even help two people who are stuck in a pod. Not sure where the pod goes though.

Hell, maybe the Typhon don't even need a vessel to get to Earth....They did get to our solar system on their own, I doubt they need a ship to get to earth.


Here's a bonus thing: On the dark side of the moon you can see some lights, suggesting there's either an installation or typhon activity. Gonna try to get a better look at it on my second playthrough. Anyone else noticed this?

[Tonkinese]

well it ended how i thought it would end.
you are in a simulation and no choice matters not one choice the only difference is at the end wether to kill them all or shake hands.
not very well thought out and kind of a real big let down

[Daliena]

Originally posted by PanicButton:

So I went back and read the survivor's notes again. Still not clear what he describes exactly

In part one he says a plane just turned into glitter in the air...without a sound. In part 3 hey says that now he knows it was just an accident. "Scientist who thought they knew everything. But they did not."

Originally posted by Daliena:

It's also possible that the Typhon arrived on Earth aboard the Advent shuttle. You may remember that on the bridge you find captain Jada Marks having considered whether or not to trigger the scuttling charges, and whatever she may or may not have had time to decide, the shuttle is still intact when you arrive and find her dead.

The shuttle left 30 minutes before the first record of the containment breach, and it's possible that it wasn't spotted immediately and it could be carrying a Mimic or several to Earth..

Could be. Or an escape pod....you can even help two people who are stuck in a pod. Not sure where the pod goes though.

Hell, maybe the Typhon don't even need a vessel to get to Earth....They did get to our solar system on their own, I doubt they need a ship to get to earth.


Here's a bonus thing: On the dark side of the moon you can see some lights, suggesting there's either an installation or typhon activity. Gonna try to get a better look at it on my second playthrough. Anyone else noticed this?

Think they'd need at least some sort of a vessel, Apex not counting. One of the logs mentions that a six million year journey on an iron meteoroid could feel like a few seconds to a Mimic due to their abilities. Then they transform one into a Weaver, add some human victims and voila, you have everything needed to create more Typhon.

Originally posted by Tonkinese:

well it ended how i thought it would end.
you are in a simulation and no choice matters not one choice the only difference is at the end wether to kill them all or shake hands.
not very well thought out and kind of a real big let down

Actually choices during the game can mean that you don't even get to choose shake hands or kill them all because they kill you instead, deeming the experiment a failure.

[Tonkinese]

Originally posted by Tonkinese:

well it ended how i thought it would end.
you are in a simulation and no choice matters not one choice the only difference is at the end wether to kill them all or shake hands.
not very well thought out and kind of a real big let down

Actually choices during the game can mean that you don't even get to choose shake hands or kill them all because they kill you instead, deeming the experiment a failure. [/quote]


not true i saved everyone then went on a killing spree blew the station up sat there in the chair and watched it all burn

then my option was shake or kill

so there you have it dissapointment of the year award goes to what ever this game is and ♥♥♥♥ you to bethesda for raping the "Prey" franchise

[Coldhands]

^Only if you measure the impact or worth of story choices by what rewards you get. I liked that the choices you make describe who human you are. Even if your choices didn't actual alter the story's outcome, you thought they would when you made them, and that's what counts.

Sorry you were disappointed by Prey, but I loved it.

[Darkfiro]

Actually there 4-5 chars that will affect the ending depending on how you handle them they are Danette, The security chief, the Dr who slave to alex, and your ex, possibly alex himself. ignoring Dan request to kill the chef make her unhappy with you, spacing dr, igwe (I think that right it been awhile) get him unhappy with you, failing the SC or killing her on sight make her unhappy , ignoring or killing your ex make her unhappy , Not sure if alex matter but if the 4 operator are unhappy with you. You are deem a failure and get a bad ending.

[darth_Dan]

Originally posted by PanicButton:

-You can find diaries about a survivor of an unknown disaster. (how he got away in a military truck, and how he lost his dog) Was that about the typhon invasion? If so why was the diary on Talos?

Well, here I can answer with a great deal of certainty. The events of the "Evacuation" referenced here are tied to the "Recycler" technology going out of control. You must have noticed throughout the game that the "Recycler charges" make up for a decent weapon. Now imagine THAT going out of control... So the Evacuation showed: pink smoke (could be side-effects of the Recycler tech?), a plane disappearing mid-air, scientists were to blame, and I'm not sure where I read that, but "The Recyclers have generally been restrained to space following the Evacuation". Pretty clear, huh?

-Who the hell is October? There was a mention of him in one of Morgan's logs, saying October was made to guide him...but so was December and January....were there more?....maybe he made one in every phase of his testing before he got his memory wiped?

Yes, I think one was made in every phase. Their voice improved over time, too. I can't help but wonder, was there ever November?...

-Was there another station? There's a log describing how a shuttle pilot found a completeley dark station some distance away from Talos-1.

Station? Or was it a completely dark shuttle?