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Refering to Loghain being useful in Inquisition, since how much they phoned in the cameos in DA2, i really dont expect old characters to do much.
The dark ritual should be pretty big in Inquisition, regardless what Morrigan does with the child. I feel it's too easy for the character slaying the archdemon to survive, and the consequence of birthing a demon God baby should be pretty high. Raze half a nation, swallow your morality pet and swooping in on you kind consequences. Sacrificing a Warden to kill the archdemon makes me think they become a martyr to recruit more Wardens. Maybe that's a good thing.
Should've mentioned I was doing a female Warden. First time I romanced Leliana because "Hurr durr, lesbians are hawt". I like Alistair's character but his lack of confidence is a romance killer. A Grey Warden in a position of power may ruffle some of the feathers in other nations, or at least those who don't like the Wardens. More conflict means more stuff to kill.
If anything, I know from Mass Effect that a character such as Loghain will have an impact, overall a negative one I suspect, but he will influence the story in Inquisition because he goes to Orlais (if alive). He hates the people from this land so much that I'm banking he either changes his viewpoint because he was shown mercy, or goes balls deep and causes war between Orlais and the Wardens. I believe Bioware would punish players for betraying Allistair, but also reward them for keeping up what's pretty much a traitor/murderer and Orlais hater. I'm hoping he changes his mind of Orlais, but who knows, any problems he causes will justify people who killed him early.
Still leaning to keep Loghain ... damn you Anora!
Ya, ya, he did it for Ferelden, blah, blah, blah. He broke a sworn oath, believed in the wrong threat which resulted in the death of the king and the king's army thus putting Ferelden at a near fatal risk. He then falsely blamed the one organization who had the means to deal with the true threat. Puts himself on the throne using his daughter to leverage public opinion to sell his overthrow of the crown. Left to Loghain, Ferelden would have fallen and Orlais would have been left to take over and deal with the blight. Epic fail.
Anora, apples don't fall far from the tree. Power hungry wench who needs a good ♥♥♥♥♥ slapping and put in her place. The farther away from the throne the better. Preferably in the pig stye. The last thing Ferelden needs is a lying, conniving power hungry ♥♥♥♥♥ like her. Her loyalty is obviously to her father and not her country.
Anyway, I'm sure some will disagree.
1. He didnt care about the battle outcome. they could have turned the tide if they ran in, but they chose not to. so saying he failed, or should have been gathering intelligence is moot.
2. If your king is a moron, even more the reason to take him down. he would have led everyone to death in the search for glory. i mean im sad that Calin died, but he was a fool, and a child.
Loghain never wanted power but he knew that Calin would lead them astray, so he did what he did. and insulting Anora is low. everything she did, she did to survive.
The world isnt as black and white as you think it is, lol
Here is a picture of Anora looking snobby and pissed lol!
She's so sweet and innocent until you disagree with her lol!
I kept him. As much as I personally hated him I realised that he's a skilled and respected general and leader and you need his ability to fight the blight.
His betrayal of the king was bad but the way the battle went I think he would have died if he hadn't retreated. It's at least better than everything being thrown away in one battle.
I kept him around and told alistair to ♥♥♥♥ off. Alistair was whiny and was running from responsibilty from day one. How could I let him be king? Especially when Anora was so smart. See that's why I'm warden no.1 and Alistair is my no.2 - cos my warden had the wisdom to put personal struggles aside for the good of fereldan.
Alone. She doesn't really need one, she's young and can get married to someone who she chooses when she wants. she's smart and she doesn't need someone worse stepping on her toes. After the blight fereldan would need a single leader to unite everyone, not game of thrones style power struggles.
I guess you can interpret his personality that way. But I always think of Alistair of wanting to solve conflicts without innocent people having to suffer or what can be considered the moral thing to do. Anora is only happy to have things go the way she plans them to be she believes what is right for Ferelden is that she continues to rule because she quote "Is the backbone of Ferelden even when King Cailan was alive." So basically she believes she is the only thing that holds the kingdom together I would think of it more of a group of people that work together to make decisions not just soley one person. Also depending on certain choices in the landsmeet she addresses the public accusing her father Loghain of kidnapping and plotting against her so that she can gain others approval. If you gather the evidence for the landsmeet you realize that there was alot of shady things being allowed to happen in the Elven alienage and with the nobles. So Anora has to appear to be victimized to gain pity yet she claims she is the one who makes all the decisions that is best for Ferelden it seems to contradict itself at least to me anyway. Alistair doesn't really want to have the power to rule you have to be able to convince him because what is most important to him is stopping the darkspawn. I think he makes a good king because other rulers never really involve themselves with the darkspawn threat which could prove dangerous.
But at the other hand - you where blowing her cover, and exposed her to the same people that where planning to imprison and even kill here if she acts against Loghain. Se probably saved her life by saying she was kidnapped. Admitting she was working together with the Gray wardens would be probably her death scentence...
If you do not expose her, she gets (and takes) the chance to escape. Later on she plans an way to rescue you (altough she profits from that also), so she is not all that bad.
She is -in fact- just like an Gray Warden. Pragmatic and capable to go as far as it takes to defeat the Darkspawn and rule Farelden. Kings and Queens that are good rulers are seldom nice people - they cannot afford to be that.
Anora wasn't in power. Loghain was regent. The stuff in the alienage was his doing, not hers. She's captured because of Loghain's increasing paranoia. When Cailan was king she had influence but since her father became regent he held all the power.
Also Alistair would make a terrible king, as you say he's preoccupied with the darkspawn. But he also has no interest in the politics of Ferelden (unless you do it perfectly.) He's all about the darkspawn but the blight will end and his rule will have to continue.
'Other rulers never involve themselves with the darkspawn' Except for Cailan at the start of the game?
The irony is your enemies would make for very good wardens - Anora is pragmatic and smart, and Loghain is willing to do whatever to fight a threat. The only thing is Loghain mistakenly thinks the threat is Orlais.
Indeed - and that's the reason I think the best outcome is to let (or force) her to marry to Alistair, to make sure the power is divided. At the same time it is not an very bad idea to spare Loghain, and force him to become a Gray Warden. In that case he got bound to your command, and openly being part of the Gray wardens nutralise the threath he can be...
Just a few toughts...
Oh and I am at the point just before landsmeet, so I don not know if that last part about Loghain is possible because I do not know if you can defeat him without killing him...
I've never played and had alistair marry anora and have loghain join the wardens. If you spare Loghain Alistair leaves. If you kill Loghain Anora refuses to marry Alistair. You have to play the game very well in order to get that outcome.
If you're a Cousland you can marry the queen yourself, which is probably the best option.