Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition

Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition

Smoke Eater 8. okt. 2014 kl. 20:12
Best Romance
What would you say the best romance for dragon age origins and 2 is mine are lelianna and isabela
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Turkeysammich 13. okt. 2014 kl. 15:05 
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oh and the hells a siscon

If google is to be belived, Someone who has a strong sexual attraction to their sister.

Yeah, he wanted to bang his sister.
Aqualung 13. okt. 2014 kl. 22:57 
Morrigan, no doubt.

Her dialogue is absolutely amazing, for starters. I'm replaying Origins and am having no problem romancing her all over again. It's really enchanting, almost as if she's bewitching you from the game itself.

Then there's how she's stone cold sexy. Leliana comes close, but I give Morrigan the edge. Shale is still sexiest, though <3

Then there's how Allistair and Leliana don't approve, or at least they didn't to me. Listening to dialogue between the two stated how they hoped I wasn't romancing "that vile woman," and Allistair even called her a ♥♥♥♥♥ to my face when he asked if we were together. Nevertheless, Lel and Allistair were in my party most of the game, and the fact they didn't approve made it that much better.

It really was the high point of the game for me. Morrigan rocks, yo.

Manu 14. okt. 2014 kl. 3:18 
Oh yes, i totally agree with ghostfacekiller39! The romance with Morrigan is absolutely awesome. The interaction with other optional partymembers either. I remember Wynne apoligizing for her doubts, when the romance became "love" once. Also its really nice how Morrigan acts herself during the romance.
To me it was a major part to keep on playing the campain. The game seems to be pretty long and can get a bit boring if you have quite similar fights over and over again during the questline. So the romance was a really big motivation to go on and find out what will happen in the end :)
It also made me playing the witch hunt DLC right after it cause i just couldn't let it end that way xD
Being german myself i played it on german language of course and i gotta say, Morrigan seems to be even a bit more cold in german sync (to the voice actors: awesome work at this point). The switches between cold hearted and lovely romance are really nice :)
CJHRRIHRH 14. okt. 2014 kl. 4:57 
I married the queen. Best option for human noble. Morrigan is a ♥♥♥♥♥. Leliana is just too much manic pixie for me. In DA2 there are no good romance options. Isabela is a slut who would bang a doorpost and merrill is even more manic pixie dream girl except she stupidly deals with demons even when everyone you've ever seen has either ended up dead or insane. It's not surprising the romance was written by a woman seeing as there are so many males and the females aren't what men find attractive but what women think/hope men find attractive - sexual assertiveness and endearing weird social awkwardness. I know it's not a dating sim, I wouldn't play it if it was but they could at least have made more female options seeing as romance has become a tenet of bioware games.
Smoke Eater 14. okt. 2014 kl. 8:20 
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I married the queen. Best option for human noble. Morrigan is a ♥♥♥♥♥. Leliana is just too much manic pixie for me. In DA2 there are no good romance options. Isabela is a slut who would bang a doorpost and merrill is even more manic pixie dream girl except she stupidly deals with demons even when everyone you've ever seen has either ended up dead or insane. It's not surprising the romance was written by a woman seeing as there are so many males and the females aren't what men find attractive but what women think/hope men find attractive - sexual assertiveness and endearing weird social awkwardness. I know it's not a dating sim, I wouldn't play it if it was but they could at least have made more female options seeing as romance has become a tenet of bioware games.
wtf there are the same ammount of males as there are females
CJHRRIHRH 14. okt. 2014 kl. 10:29 
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wtf there are the same ammount of males as there are females

They still suck. And do they have the same amount of gay male/ female players as they do straight male? Shouldn't they take care of their largest demographic first? They did it better in mass effect 2 and 3. Had enough options for everyone and managed not to suck too hard.
Westlund 14. okt. 2014 kl. 11:34 
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They still suck. And do they have the same amount of gay male/ female players as they do straight male? Shouldn't they take care of their largest demographic first?

Statistically, 46% of gamers are female, no clue how many homosexual players are around.

Biowares problem currently is that they are forgetting about the quality of romances to introduce homosexuality into their games and as a result both homosexual and heterosexual romances are suffering.

Worse is that bioware is actively using this as part of their PR about being forward about LBG and gamers are actually praising it, short sightedness and blind support at its finest.

They did it better in mass effect 2 and 3. Had enough options for everyone and managed not to suck too hard.

Unless you romanced miranda... or ashley... or jacob... the ashley romancers even manage to get screwed over in citadel DLC while everyone else arguably got good content.
Sidst redigeret af Westlund; 14. okt. 2014 kl. 11:39
CJHRRIHRH 14. okt. 2014 kl. 11:57 
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They still suck. And do they have the same amount of gay male/ female players as they do straight male? Shouldn't they take care of their largest demographic first?

Statistically, 46% of gamers are female, no clue how many homosexual players are around.

Biowares problem currently is that they are forgetting about the quality of romances to introduce homosexuality into their games and as a result both homosexual and heterosexual romances are suffering.

Worse is that bioware is actively using this as part of their PR about being forward about LBG and gamers are actually praising it, short sightedness and blind support at its finest.

They did it better in mass effect 2 and 3. Had enough options for everyone and managed not to suck too hard.

Unless you romanced miranda... or ashley... or jacob... the ashley romancers even manage to get screwed over in citadel DLC while everyone else arguably got good content.

46% of ALL gamers are female... the study which found that involves all genres and all platforms, smartphones included. But are 46% of ps/xbox/gaming pc gamers female? No, that number gets skewed because of the sheer amount on people who have smartphones. Even if it is an even split it in the past few years we've seen how every game following the mainstream trying to get the largest demographic tends to suck (dead space 3 anyone?) It's dumb to build your hardcore rpg game around the demographics of people who play candy crush saga and temple run on the toilet or on the train home.

I think it's good they have options for everyone. I like that a big budget game has options for female gamers and gay people, cos even if they aren't the biggest group of gamers they should be catered to as well. But let's not lie to ourselves and pretend straight male isn't the biggest demographic. Because it is, and it kind of sucks when that's ignored and the romance options are poor so they could include a bunch of unlikeable bisexual characters (Anders is annoying af always whining about 'mage equality', Fenris is just an unpleasant person, they were going for woobie but they missed the mark completely) Even if I wanted to play a gay character I wouldn't go for either of those jackasses.

Also a straight woman has more options (sebastian, anders, fenris) than straight male (isabela, merrill) despite there being more straight males who play than straight women. How does that make any sense?
Westlund 14. okt. 2014 kl. 13:00 
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46% of ALL gamers are female... the study which found that involves all genres and all platforms, smartphones included. But are 46% of ps/xbox/gaming pc gamers female?

The problem is propably that there exists no clear defenition of what constitues a gamer or said constitution needs to be updated for the current era.

That said tho, There are probably more women around then most people belive but we simply are not aware of it.


I think it's good they have options for everyone.

I think so to however i get annoyed when the inclusion of said options drags the quality down for everyone.

Do things well or do not do them at all.



Also a straight woman has more options (sebastian, anders, fenris) than straight male (isabela, merrill) despite there being more straight males who play than straight women. How does that make any sense?

Sebastian is a DLC character so having him around is optional.

I would also add that sebastian is bearly a romance anyway femHawkes who go for him basically get a (chaste) political marrige.
CJHRRIHRH 14. okt. 2014 kl. 13:33 
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The problem is propably that there exists no clear defenition of what constitues a gamer or said constitution needs to be updated for the current era.

That said tho, There are probably more women around then most people belive but we simply are not aware of it.

I think so to however i get annoyed when the inclusion of said options drags the quality down for everyone.

Do things well or do not do them at all.

Sebastian is a DLC character so having him around is optional.

I would also add that sebastian is bearly a romance anyway femHawkes who go for him basically get a (chaste) political marrige.


There are more women around than people think, there are certainly more than a few. But I don't believe it's near half, at least on console/pc, or even for dragon age - so hiring female writers who write romance options which seem to put women first while not making the male ones as good doesn't seem to be a wise decision and it definitely shows.

I get that Sebastian is a chaste romance but at least he offers something different for femhawke. I'd take a good chaste romance option over merrill or Isabela, dlc or not.

Also you're right - having games be all inclusive is nice and all but I'd rather have good games than bad games which have something for everyone. I'd rather have one good romance option than many bad ones but at that point it's not really an option anymore. Thankfully Inquisition looks to be a step up in every aspect, romance included.
Westlund 14. okt. 2014 kl. 13:51 
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so hiring female writers who write romance options which seem to put women first while not making the male ones as good doesn't seem to be a wise decision and it definitely shows.


Arguably, everyone male or female lost in DA2, Anders and Fenris are not exactly major improvements over Merril and Isabella.

And Sebastian is not in the game by default so unless you buy him you will never see him.
CJHRRIHRH 14. okt. 2014 kl. 14:12 
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so hiring female writers who write romance options which seem to put women first while not making the male ones as good doesn't seem to be a wise decision and it definitely shows.


Arguably, everyone male or female lost in DA2, Anders and Fenris are not exactly major improvements over Merril and Isabella.

And Sebastian is not in the game by default so unless you buy him you will never see him.

If there were romancable dlc characters for straight male hawke in DA2 that would be better than what we have, but not everyone sees that content so they should have focused on making the game as a whole good before selling dlc. Also I hate the idea of dlc characters in story driven games anyway - there's no way you can make them matter and not plan to implement them from the start so it becomes a case of building the game with them as a part, then ripping them out and reselling them later.

Also while Anders and Fenris are not good romance options for male or female hawke they fit into archetypes which are common among women's literature, female focused YA and women's fanfiction. It's more a case of the writer not being skilled enough to write good romance even when they focused on it, which is why it's so fan-fictiony. Fenris is the tortured woobie (I can change him!) complete with anime haircut and Anders is the righteous, liberal male fighting for minority rights (even though he's completely wrong) - couldn't imagine how a character like that would be popular with female gamers...
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Smoke Eater 14. okt. 2014 kl. 15:53 
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They still suck. And do they have the same amount of gay male/ female players as they do straight male? Shouldn't they take care of their largest demographic first?

Statistically, 46% of gamers are female, no clue how many homosexual players are around.

Biowares problem currently is that they are forgetting about the quality of romances to introduce homosexuality into their games and as a result both homosexual and heterosexual romances are suffering.

Worse is that bioware is actively using this as part of their PR about being forward about LBG and gamers are actually praising it, short sightedness and blind support at its finest.

They did it better in mass effect 2 and 3. Had enough options for everyone and managed not to suck too hard.

Unless you romanced miranda... or ashley... or jacob... the ashley romancers even manage to get screwed over in citadel DLC while everyone else arguably got good content.
homosexual like 0.5%
Turkeysammich 14. okt. 2014 kl. 18:55 
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Statistically, 46% of gamers are female, no clue how many homosexual players are around.

Biowares problem currently is that they are forgetting about the quality of romances to introduce homosexuality into their games and as a result both homosexual and heterosexual romances are suffering.

Worse is that bioware is actively using this as part of their PR about being forward about LBG and gamers are actually praising it, short sightedness and blind support at its finest.



Unless you romanced miranda... or ashley... or jacob... the ashley romancers even manage to get screwed over in citadel DLC while everyone else arguably got good content.
homosexual like 0.5%

ugh go higher, I can't play an MMO without some gay guy hitting on me. Where did that female statistic come from? It's way lower. I'm not a homophobe, but I don't like how games are suddenly trying to force it. I thought Alistair was kinda cool, then he suddenly gets a lisp and starts talking about licking his lamp post in winter, I got sick.

Then in Fallout New Vegas, I choose the Confirmed Bachelor perk for the damage, and then the whole Nevada area turns lispy and starts hitting on my character, annoying.
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Smoke Eater 14. okt. 2014 kl. 19:24 
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homosexual like 0.5%

ugh go higher, I can't play an MMO without some gay guy hitting on me. Where did that female statistic come from? It's way lower. I'm not a homophobe, but I don't like how games are suddenly trying to force it. I thought Alistair was kinda cool, then he suddenly gets a lisp and starts talking about licking his lamp post in winter, I got sick.

Then in Fallout New Vegas, I choose the Confirmed Bachelor perk for the damage, and then the whole Nevada area turns lispy and starts hitting on my character, annoying.
oh no i agree completly. but homosexuals are less than 3% percent so what percent of them plays games i just guestimated
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