Regarding Hardening and Landsmeet results n such.... (Spoilers)

[Eon]

So truth be told, I've never gotten to the lands meet in any playthrough...on the xbox, it was my bros xbox n copy so I had limited time frames to play it in addition to my own PC games n console(s) at the time, and when I got DDE for Steam in 2010...I sorta...stalled n forgot/got distracted at about level 12 (half way through 2nd ally quest, whatever it is I chose I guess?)...
I got UE a long while ago, finally got around to installing/playing...and I plan to finish this play through before end of June.

However, for this save I really want both Loghain (much as I hate the bastard) and Alistair to be alive, and I'd like for Alistair to marry Anora (IIRC, she's never really struck me as an outright vindictive woman, but I've not truly played far enough with her from enough angles to know and I'd rather not spend 40+ minutes on wiki for various pages to learn for sure xD). From what I understand, if done right, I think with him hardened, they both become beloved co-ruling monarchs in the Epilogue.

So my question(s) are thus; I read the wiki about what's required to get what and who lives/dies, and I know only 2 ways they rule together, one with Loghain dead and the other with him alive....And I read the info on what's required...but I wanted to ask you folks;

I know hardening makes his personality n some other things change, but I've never actually gotten to that point so...what does it exactly entail? How does alistair's personality/future choices n stuff change? I know he'll leave party if I grab Loghain, but if I go for the Live/Jointly Ruled/Jointly Ruled option...is that one of the ones where he depises me or....? Mostly just looking for actual good summary input and opinions on how the personalities n choices of the characters start or change based on the choices and end results.

[Eon]

(Also I know it's highly likely and/or outright guaranteed for Anora to dislike if not outright despise you if you kill Loghain...in future playthroughs where I or Alistair do so, what are the way or ways you can minimize or avoid hatred from her?)

[Eon]

Bump. Anyone? Just looking for some info/opinions/advice on how to proceed through lands meet correctly, and how exactly alistair changes if/when "Hardened", in terms of dialogue/personality/gameplay....Cause wiki isn't quite clear on that other than a single sentence or two....

[Rivaire]

Sure it was clear on the wiki.

But since you didn't seem to grasp it on that site, I will explain it easier -hopefully.

Hardened Alistair will gain more confidence and puts himself first more often, meaning he places his personal feelings more often above his sense of duty.

Unhardened/Hardened Alistair will have certain dialogue changes throughout the game, some of which may net or lose approval depending on if he is hardened or not.

In terms of Landsmeet, an Unhardened Alistair will not marry Anora if Loghain is spared by the Warden. So if you want to keep Loghain but have Alistair as king by the end of Landsmeet, Alistair must be hardened.

If you are a non-human noble female Warden and made Alistair king (marriage to Anora does not play a factor here), your relationship can only maintain if Alistair was hardened and you selected the correct dialogue responses. If left unhardened, he will end it.

I don't know how much more simpler I can put it.

[Eon]

I understand that, I was more meaning...the way they explained it made me feel like they were implying he would become a jerk ass or uncaring to others or stuff like that....is that not what they mean, or is that what they mean? And I was mostly just curious if anyone had some easy examples of perhaps where/how dialogue changes? Like say "in X scene, unhardened will say Y while hardened would say Z".