Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition

Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition

se1nseonlykw Dec 11, 2022 @ 3:48pm
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Hi everyone,
I'm having difficulties beating the last bunch of darkspawn in the southeast of Korcari Wilds. I've beaten all other enemies and am at the highest level possible at this point, I believe. Only once I was close to beating them. All other times there were 5 of them left before I died. I don't know what I'm doing wrong and the degree of difficulty is only at normal.
I've set the tactics so that the party members heal themselves when at 50% health. The other 2 tactics available I set to use their abilities.
I've seen a walkthrough on Youtube where the party members do 25-30 or so damage per hit. I do something like 15-20 and don't know where the difference comes from. There's not a lot of gear I can afford at this point.
Any advice? I'm sure I'm missing something and just haven't got the hang of things, but I just can't find the answer. Many thanks!
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Jquist47 Dec 11, 2022 @ 6:00pm 
The hardest fight in Korcari Wilds is often the bridge fight but that is north so I assume you mean the one to the right where there is a fireplace?

In any case, a tip is to exploit the AI in hard fights, draw aggro with an archer, then move backwards with your entire party, select all, then they will come to you instead which is Always easier. Sometimes you only draw a couple of enemies in, then you can systematically eliminate the enemies without fighting them all at once. I use mods that make the game harder and this is how I deal with the hardest encounters.

The reason your party is doing low damage might be due to injuries? Otherwise I don't know. It is also good to focus fire enemies, because each enemy you kill reduces the enemies sum of all damage. Crowd control is also very important. Another useful tip for non-mages is to first do a normal auto attack, then once that connects with the target you instantly use a talent against the same enemy. That way you can greatly increase your dps because it cancels part of the swing animation after the attack hits, it is especially useful for two handed because of the slow attack speed.
se1nseonlykw Dec 12, 2022 @ 5:07am 
I may have gotten the directions twisted. It's the fight right before meeting that woman and getting access to the cache.
Actually, I wanted to be an archer and somehow I can't get a shot off despite having bolts. Don't know what and how I could do anything wrong there but it seems I found a way to mess that up. I changed to dual weapon.
I only enter fights when at full health. I'm not aware of any status ailments or so.
I had a feeling I missed something silly. I wasn't aware I could mark all party members. I tried to separate some enemies from their pack by running away but my party members didn't come along. :-D
I also noticed in the youtube walkthrough that their armor looks heavy. Don't know how you can get that much money to buy that stuff.
Anyway, separating the pack should do the trick. Many thanks! :-)
Last edited by se1nseonlykw; Dec 12, 2022 @ 5:11am
Jquist47 Dec 12, 2022 @ 8:30am 
Oh yea, now I know what fight you mean. I don't think you can get a shot at them with archery because in that fight the enemy is on the high ground, which makes your shot miss in this game which can be frustrating. The best method to make your entire party go backwards is to select them all (or just drag click around your group) and then right click on the location you want them to move to like an rts game. If you move backwards with the wasd keys im not sure if they will follow in a fight.

Btw, archery is pretty bad in the eraly levels but becomes much stronger later in the game. Scattershot is amazing for example, try to get it early. The armor or weapons you saw from a video might be some mods if I would have guessed. There are ways to make lots of cash early on, but it depends on your Origin, and buying armor and weapons early game is often not worth it since you will be looting better anyway.
Last edited by Jquist47; Dec 12, 2022 @ 8:32am
se1nseonlykw Dec 12, 2022 @ 12:31pm 
Phew, it still took several attempts, but I finally won. That fireblast spell is a ♥♥♥♥♥. And still not proficient with crowd control. Luring a few enemies out can go wrong quickly. One step too far and you draw the whole crowd.
Could you tell me how to make money? I assume you mean generally early in the game, right? Before the ritual it seems you can't go on the King's Highway and do other quests.
Thanks again for taking the time to help a noob out. :-)
se1nseonlykw Dec 12, 2022 @ 1:07pm 
OK, I'm thinking this game is not for me. The first fight in the tower it doesn't look like I can lure anyone out. Haven't been close to a win so far.
Ogami Dec 12, 2022 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by se1nseonlykw:
OK, I'm thinking this game is not for me. The first fight in the tower it doesn't look like I can lure anyone out. Haven't been close to a win so far.

Just play on "easy" ? I do the same for every replay of this game, the combat has not really aged that well and i honestly just want to experience the story.
Especially since the last third of the game is WAY too combat heavy and i just want to get it over with at that point.
Last edited by Ogami; Dec 12, 2022 @ 1:50pm
Jquist47 Dec 12, 2022 @ 7:20pm 
Best way to make money early game is to loot everything and then sell it. Later you earn lots of money from sidequests.

The first fight in the Tower is tough indeed. Im pretty certain you can lure them into the small room where you first enter the tower. From there you can quickly kill the ones coming for you, and if the mage comes you can try to paralyze him with your mage. If you just charge in things will go very bad quickly.

Combat in this game is not for everyone, I personally love it though. I much prefer this to modern more action based combat systems, so I don't agree it has aged poorly, it is just a different combat style.
Ogami Dec 12, 2022 @ 8:30pm 
Originally posted by Jquist47:

Combat in this game is not for everyone, I personally love it though. I much prefer this to modern more action based combat systems, so I don't agree it has aged poorly, it is just a different combat style.

Well, "aged poorly" is maybe the wrong term. Its very old school, very slow, very methodical.
Its fun but it also can border on tedious. I think the game has a bit too many combat encounters for its own good and usually around the last 20%-30% of the game the combat annoys me more then i having fun with it.
As dumbed down and "arcade like" the combat in DA 2 is, the fact that a fight with 10 enemies does not take 15 minutes with constant pausing and instead is over in like 30 seconds is refreshing to me, especially if i do a complete trilogy replay.

I play RPG mostly for the story and character interactions and combat is always the least interesting aspect to me. So "fast and short" is definitely my preference for encounters.
Last edited by Ogami; Dec 12, 2022 @ 8:30pm
Jquist47 Dec 13, 2022 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Ogami:
Well, "aged poorly" is maybe the wrong term. Its very old school, very slow, very methodical.
Its fun but it also can border on tedious. I think the game has a bit too many combat encounters for its own good and usually around the last 20%-30% of the game the combat annoys me more then i having fun with it.

Even though I personally love the combat in this game, I can agree that late-game can be a bit tedious due to the amount of fighting some section have. I guess it depends on the party a bit, but the beauty of this game is that you can play it close to an action rpg if you set up your tactics right, then minimal pausing is usually required, or you can play it close to a classic isometric rpg where you control are your actions.

Unfortunately since the game is 3D, the isometric camera is pretty bad, especialyl when you are used to the classic games, but in some encounters it can be very useful, but the idea is great though. The speed of combat also depend alot on your build, I agree that combat is slow in general, which I personally really like in a real time combat game, but it does depend alot on your build. If you go dual wielding with dual striking and momentum, your attackspeed and dps is absurd and encounters usually ends quickly for example.
Last edited by Jquist47; Dec 13, 2022 @ 4:46pm
se1nseonlykw Dec 17, 2022 @ 9:18am 
Combat is already annoying me a bit. I lost the night fight in Lothering a couple times very closely in the end and had to do the whole thing over.

One thing that keeps happening is that a character switches to the other weapon set, which is sometimes no weapon... :-( I'm not doing this actively and have no idea how it happens. It's why I lost some fights and wasn't aware of it.
And now Morrigan gets into close combat fights and I can't seem to figure out why. There is nothing in her tactics that suggests she should do close combat.
se1nseonlykw Dec 17, 2022 @ 2:14pm 
I'm about to give up. I kept dying in Redcliffe Castle. I left it alone for a while and levelled up a little bit. Level 9 now. Still losing to those 4 damn dogs and to those 5 or 6 enemies in the room before the basement cellar. Can't find more enemies to level up. The wolves and the bandits I encounter on the road always kill me. In Brecilia forest the hermit, the enemies coming from the gravestone, that one thing that I have to fight alone with Morrigan and the dragon in the wolves' lair I have nop chance against.
Trying to find some guides on tactics, But the ones I'm finding are at level 20+. Can't use those tactics as I don't have those abilities etc.
Jquist47 Dec 17, 2022 @ 6:08pm 
You need to set behavior in tactics to "ranged" in order for the character to stay in ranged combat. For the other characters I recommend the aggressive behavior.

The dogs in Redcliffe are very though but they are optional and don't have much good loot tbh. Same with the gravestone encounters, they are optional and I suggest doing them when you are higher level if you are struggling.

I would like to give some combat advice but it's hard when I don't know what party and what spells/talents you have access to.
se1nseonlykw Dec 18, 2022 @ 11:59am 
I'm doing better now, using the presets.
But I may have messed up. In the Magi tower I couldn't beat that purple demon, then I went into the other room and ended up in a dream world. I saved accidentally so I can't go back unless I want to do the whole tower again. That is the last save I have. :-(
In the Mage's Asunder I have no chance against the 5 mages that guard the stairs. I tried spirit form but those mages have some hardhitting spells and I can't seem to isolate any of them either.
Last edited by se1nseonlykw; Dec 18, 2022 @ 1:02pm
Ogami Dec 18, 2022 @ 1:48pm 
You have to do the dream world to proceed anyway, there is no turning back after you enter the tower.
se1nseonlykw Dec 18, 2022 @ 3:07pm 
I somehow made it all the way to the sloth, but am losing against his final form. 2 attempts so far. need to go to bed. will try again tomorrow.
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Date Posted: Dec 11, 2022 @ 3:48pm
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