Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition

Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition

jovalleau Dec 17, 2017 @ 9:56pm
Is 'Lethality' worth it just for the +10% Crit chance?
I'm doing a dual-axe wielding dwarf rogue (because reasons). Cunning isn't going to be a major stat, but the +10% Critical Hit Chance of Lethality seems too good to pass up. I just want to make sure that 1) The Crit chance works and 2) If the talent point is worth it if I won't have a major Cunning build.

Thanks!
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K00lex Dec 18, 2017 @ 12:16am 
Originally posted by jovalleau:
I just want to make sure that 1) The Crit chance works and 2) If the talent point is worth it if I won't have a major Cunning build.
(1) yes, Critical Hits do occur. Indicated by larger damage number (text size) above the target.
(2) yes, especially, if you've already gone down this line of talents and obtained Below the Belt and Deadly Strike. Don't bother with Evasion (due to its attack-interrupting parry animation), unless you have low DEX or DEF value.

Increasing melee Crit chance from other talent sources:
+3% from Flanking/Backstab for a Rogue
+2% from Combat Movement
+1% from Coup De Grace
+2.5% from Dual-Weapon Expert
+2.5% from Assassin Specialization
+5% from Shadow Striking
+10% from Find Vitals
+5% from Stone Aura (with Renewed Assault)
+3+% from Song of Courage (powerful CUN-based Bard talent)
100% if attacking from Stealth (not using a talent)

Certain rogue talents can generate Crit Hits: Below Belt & Deadly Strike; while others generate AutoCrit Hits: Riposte on 2nd weapon, Cripple, Punisher at last strike, Twin Strikes, Pinpoint Strike.

On the other hand, sustaining Dual Striking or using Dual-Weapon Sweep have zero Crit Hits or Backstabs.

You can also increase Crit Chance via weapons, gloves, and Intensifying Runes.
neil Dec 18, 2017 @ 5:09am 
K00lex/Jov
I hope you both don't mind if I ask a further question.
Where did you get the information on those stat improvements from talents please
This is such important info
And I have never seen such detail
And I have been looking (pet hate - inadequate in game documentation)

Anyway if you could point me towards the source of this information
Would be appreciated

Neil
K00lex Dec 18, 2017 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by neil:
K00lex/Jov
I hope you both don't mind if I ask a further question.
Where did you get the information on those stat improvements from talents please
This is such important info
And I have never seen such detail
And I have been looking (pet hate - inadequate in game documentation)

Anyway if you could point me towards the source of this information
Would be appreciated

Neil
Well, game manuals in general are just to get you started. You are supposed to discover the contents yourself, thus, stretching the gameplay, so that you don't feel like the developers short-changed you with an inadequate game. ;-)
Plus, there's the whole strategy guide eco-system to cater to. Not just tips in magazines but the actual books. Those writers got to earn a living , too.
Of course, nowadays with the Internet, we have online FAQs, walkthru's, wiki's, mods, and forums. Yay, no more struggling repeatedly or collaboration with friends to survive. :-D

Anyway, back to your question, you can look up most detailed info at Dragon Age Wiki (http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Age_Wiki). I contributed, reviewed, and edited there couple of years ago. The drop-down menus may be a bit difficult to navigate, and the search box can return too many irrelevant pages.
Here're direct links to some obscure but vital pages:

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Classes_and_specializations_(Origins)
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Talents_(Origins)
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Spells_(Origins)
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Arcane_Warrior_spellcasting
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_combinations
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Ability_mechanics
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Experience
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Combat_mechanics_(Origins)
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Tactics_(Origins)
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Tactics/Presets
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Resistances_(Origins)
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Immunity
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Item_properties_(Origins)
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Unique_equipment_(Origins)

The real source is either observation of pop-up tips in the game or examining the GDA game files after installing the DAO Toolset. Another is via the modding community.
This info mod is an excellent one, so you don't have to look up on second screen.
http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/248/?
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