Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition

Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition

octogen Feb 6, 2017 @ 8:54am
Should I bother playing Awakening ?
Hey ! I've just finished Origins, which was fun, however I've watched some youtube reviews of Awakening, and it seems like, well... that its nothing special really.
I have already started the expansion (played an hour), but Im not sure if its not a waste of time. Do you have any suggestions ? Should I keep playing, or forget it (for the time being at least )
I realize that this is an ood question...anyways, if you have any comments, it would help me decide.
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Ilja Feb 6, 2017 @ 8:58am 
Play it, especially if you intend to continue with the series. Dragon Age II and Dragon Age Inquisition continue the story. They also allow you to port your character story, so that storyline remains coherent.

Characters and events in Awakening will be refered in Dragon Age II and Dragon Age: Inq.

Also, Awakening is kind of cool. It has it's flaws, but is a proper story extension for the game. I would recommend bothering with it. :)
Shellbie Feb 6, 2017 @ 11:18am 
In terms of lore yeah.
octogen Feb 6, 2017 @ 6:11pm 
Alright, thanks for the info !
I plan to play Dragon Age 2 - 3 in the future so I decided to play this through.
As far as I know Awakening is not that long anyways...around 15 -30 hours if Im not mistaken...
Im an extremely slow player when it comes to RPGs...so it may be around 30 hours, we will see. :) :steamhappy:
The negative reviews of Dragon Age 2 - also at shopping sites like Amazon - are way too convincing, so I have strong doubts I will continue with that one.

The introduction to Awakenings is nice, and while all the fights have been repetitive and tedious so far, there is quite a lot to do in side-quests.
Ilja Feb 7, 2017 @ 3:48am 
Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:
The negative reviews of Dragon Age 2 - also at shopping sites like Amazon - are way too convincing, so I have strong doubts I will continue with that one.

The introduction to Awakenings is nice, and while all the fights have been repetitive and tedious so far, there is quite a lot to do in side-quests.

It is not as good as DA:O. They tried to make the world grittier, but lost part of the humour and companionship in the process. It is not a bad game, but it just isn't Dragon Age: Origins either.

It is worth playing though, if you plan to play Dragon Age: Inquisition. Of course you can always fill in missing parts from DA: II for Dragon Age: Inquisition through their own system, if you intend to pass the game entirely.

If you do not plan to play Dragon Age: Inquisition at all, then you might as well skip DA: II.
BuzzardBee Feb 8, 2017 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:
The negative reviews of Dragon Age 2 - also at shopping sites like Amazon - are way too convincing, so I have strong doubts I will continue with that one.

The introduction to Awakenings is nice, and while all the fights have been repetitive and tedious so far, there is quite a lot to do in side-quests.

Played DA2 when it first came out. Absolutely hated it. Didn't touch it again for 2 years. When I decided to play both games again in anticipation of DAI's release, I found myself actually enjoying DA2. It wasn't nearly as bad as I'd remembered. Just different but worth playing.
Ilja Feb 8, 2017 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by BuzzardBee:
Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:
The negative reviews of Dragon Age 2 - also at shopping sites like Amazon - are way too convincing, so I have strong doubts I will continue with that one.

The introduction to Awakenings is nice, and while all the fights have been repetitive and tedious so far, there is quite a lot to do in side-quests.

Played DA2 when it first came out. Absolutely hated it. Didn't touch it again for 2 years. When I decided to play both games again in anticipation of DAI's release, I found myself actually enjoying DA2. It wasn't nearly as bad as I'd remembered. Just different but worth playing.

Yeah. As I said above, DAII is not a bad game. Everyone just expected new DA:O and that it is not.

It might take some time to live with that idea, before game becomes enjoyable.

Edit: Saying that does not mean I wouldn't still think that they made some bad judgement calls with DA II. I think they did misjudge what Dragon Age fans were after and that gave the game a bad name.
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Bhryaen Feb 9, 2017 @ 12:17pm 
Definitely play DA2. It does kinda suck. The best of DA's lore encompasses a more worldly perspective... which the confines of the city of Kirkwall don't lend themselves well to. But DAI is also worth playing at least once and there you have a story that references DA2 themes significantly more than those in DAO (particularly the main DA2 DLC, "Legacy"), and it's good to have a sense of it.

I just recommend playing DA2 on Easy. Not because of general difficulty but because combat is so... meh. If the combat seems "repetitive" in DAO (I didn't find it so, but OK), it's DEFINITELY that way in DA2, and in any case the combat isn't the best part of DA2. On Easy with a mage you can generally breeze through that to story elements enjoying the excessive AoE effects along the way as you sort through where the narrative takes you, sometimes referencing choices made in DAO. I also recommend a female protagonist (for the better voice acting) and choosing the snarky dialog (since that's the best humor in DA2 besides some of the companion interactions). That way you get the best from DA2 while getting the lore you need to appreciate DAI's setting. Worked for me anyway. I'll never play DA:HumansOnly again.

As to DAO:A, that I'd recommend because it didn't suck. It was a welcome addition of more story content with the same DAO protagonist post-world-saving, more lore to uncover and ponder (which does have direct relevance to both DA2 and DAI), Sigrun is great, Anders is actually a decent companion (not quite the same charm in DA2), lots of fun encounters and creativity, more or less well-designed areas. Some other DAO DLC decisions also get referenced later, particularly "Witch Hunt."
Meanwhile, I've completed Awakening and Leliana's Song (a silly short quest only). Combat has been even more repetitive than before. Blood Mage, Justice, Anders and Nathaniel in the party most of the time. They didn't add much banter or story, unfortunately. A little bit of disapproval from time to time, but not much else. Seems to me the authors have run out of ideas when working on Awakening. Much more could have happened story related instead of creating the Blackmarsh just to insert another dragon into an area, and various permament attribute bonuses again, too.

Kal'Hirol started promising, but these dungeons don't feature many choices for exploration. You are pretty much forced on the only path to the next area exit. Thanks for into putting Steafan into a cage and giving me something to think about. More like that should be in dungeons. Not only another darkspawn attack around every corner.

Arl Howe's estate in Leliana's Song is a bad example. For story purposes, the game closes many doors, and you cannot unlock them. Not with a high lockpicking skill either, because the doors cannot be interacted with. A sloppy way to give you only one choice and take away all role-playing options. And so I killed everyone on my way out only to be overwhelmed in a scripted sequence that cannot be avoided. No way to escape through the basement. No way to take the cooks as hostages. Uhm, oh well.
clansb Feb 12, 2017 @ 3:31pm 
Awakening does have a non-linear outline in that you get to pick what order you do several main quests in, just like Origins. And since you pick up a companion in each one, to an extent your game will differ on replays, if you do them in a different order. FWIW, I love it.

Sadly, Golems of Amgarek (spelling?) and Witchhunt really don't have that flexibility. I'd play them on Hard or Nightmare to get cool stuff for your next replay of Origins :), but not again. Well, Golems is a serious challenge tactically that might appeal. Especially since, if you didn't play a mage, you won't find one! (Btw, Awakening - Golems - Witchhunt is the order that the import feature supports.)

DA2 has a very different problem, but one that I cannot discuss without spoilers...
It's a tragedy you cannot avert. You cannot save your own mother, for goodness' sake! You find out that Anders is an abomination, but you cannot kill him. You can manage to save the city, but that just leads irrevocably to a greater disaster. You can choose sides in a massive conflict, only to find out that both are headed by bona fide monsters. All you can do is lose. And lose. And lose.
What a loser of a game! Its sole purpose in life is to get you from Origins to Inquisition.

DA:I I cannot discuss; Sadly, I never have sat down and make myself figure out the interface.
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