When do the Marian Reforms take place?

[Byber]

So currently i am playing as the Seleucids on the campaign at around 240 BC and im curious as to when the Marian Reforms take place, since i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palace so i can't see how far ahead the romans are and have no clue when the reforms happen

[CMDR Herne]

A roman faction needs to build an imperial palace in a settlement it holds on the Italian peninsula to trigger the reforms.

[Byber]

i know that, im asking when that happens

[Lamodite]

from what i remember it's population based. So get to a certain population and keep upgrading your government buildings.

[Byber]

since i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palacesince i am not a roman faction i cant build an imperial palace

[Armchair Civilian]

Stop spamming blah and engage brain ;)

the romans will hit Marius when THEY get a huge city in italy or sicily.
you can only find out how they're progressing towards that in your current campaign by sending spies.
24000 population in a city will let them get there.
BUT the brutii will have a humungous empre well before that.

[FIRE&ASHES]

wel jes its population based, and NOT only for roman factions

anny faction that can build a hughe city AND recruit legionairs, wil trigger the marius event,once the imperial palace is build !!!!!! and it do's not need to be in italy

as seleucids,, just build the biggest palace and reforms wil start :)

[Byber]

Why is almost every reply saying how the romans have to build the imperial palace, I KNOW THIS ITS IN MY QUESTION, and im just going to continue on and just figure it out since no one seems to know

[EoNightcore]

Originally posted by Tony Bamalaboni:

i know that, im asking when that happens

It happens when the romans build an imperial palace in italia.

The romans build an imperial palace when they get 24k population in italia.

They get 24k population over time.

Time is time, wait a little, and if you can't wait, kill them with your silver legionaries when you get them.

If you want to know if you should wait, send spies to italia to figure out if Rome is a backwater town, or the center of an empire.

Because jupiter-damn it, the marius reforms take place when they take place, which is when the romans build an imperial palace in italia.

In our world though, it took place in 107 bc (133 years after 240 bc)

[Byber]

i sent a spy all the way to rome to check on their cities to see their population, and he immediately ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ died

[EoNightcore]

Originally posted by Tony Bamalaboni:

i sent a spy all the way to rome to check on their cities to see their population, and he immediately ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ died

Did you send him into the cities, or just leave him laying around near the cities?

If it's the former, you gotta send alot more, and expect alot more spy casulties.

If it's the latter, you gotta send assassins with your spies, because the Romans also have assassins and they're killing your spies.