Hint needed for Spirit + Dream build

[Abyssian]

Just because Dream giving you strength and intelligence and spirit giving you Intelligence and dexterity i'm conflicted now. Should i make my character melee attacker or mage? I defo want to invest into both pets as they are powerful, but what for the whole build? It will be deffo half mage half warrior but i dunno what to aim at? More strength or more intelligence?

[MedeaFleecestealer]

Pets are not affected by intel. What you need to look for for them are items with Bonus to Pets on them which are jewellery and staves.

[Elriadon]

That's up to you to decide, though a Diviner (Dream/Spirit) is most likely way better suited as a Mage than a warrior. There's not much that a warrior gets from Spirit apart from maybe Unearthly Power.

Investing in pets is a waste if one of your masteries isn't Nature. As far as I know, lich doesn't gain any bonuses from pet gear and Mastermind is a waste without an army of pets from a second mastery.

A great way to build a Diviner is a Vitality damage focused build with a staff. Ternion Attack as a LMB skill, Life Drain as a RMB skill. Then Distort Reality (1 point is fine) with the synergy maxed as a CC option. Get Deathchill Aura, Trance of Wrath and Circle of Power to reduce enemy resistances, Recharge Reduction so that you can use Life Drain more often (with the 40 point synergy Soul Drain, it's probably the best AoE skill in the game) and wreck enemies.

[MedeaFleecestealer]

Originally posted by Eltar:

That's up to you to decide, though a Diviner (Dream/Spirit) is most likely way better suited as a Mage than a warrior. There's not much that a warrior gets from Spirit apart from maybe Unearthly Power.

Investing in pets is a waste if one of your masteries isn't Nature. As far as I know, lich doesn't gain any bonuses from pet gear and Mastermind is a waste without an army of pets from a second mastery.

A great way to build a Diviner is a Vitality damage focused build with a staff. Ternion Attack as a LMB skill, Life Drain as a RMB skill. Then Distort Reality (1 point is fine) with the synergy maxxed as a CC option. Get Deathchill Aura, Trance of Wrath and Circle of Power to reduce enemy resistances, Recharge Reduction so that you can use Life Drain more often (with the 40 point synergy Soul Drain, it's probably the best AoE skill in the game) and wreck enemies.

Liche benefits from Bonus to Pets items same as any other pets do.

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by MedeaFleecestealer:

Pets are not affected by intel. What you need to look for for them are items with Bonus to Pets on them which are jewellery and staves.

But... i dont want to be just a summoner, i want to fight myself, only have my pets as support. One of my characters i play with is warfare/dream fighter with pet nightmare and some ring which giving it elemental damage. Already 6 points into it and he kinda annoys me as he keep killing mobs faster than i even touch them, he was real help when i fought ShadowMaw, i died only 3x because of Nightmare :D

[Elriadon]

Originally posted by MedeaFleecestealer:

Originally posted by Eltar:

That's up to you to decide, though a Diviner (Dream/Spirit) is most likely way better suited as a Mage than a warrior. There's not much that a warrior gets from Spirit apart from maybe Unearthly Power.

Investing in pets is a waste if one of your masteries isn't Nature. As far as I know, lich doesn't gain any bonuses from pet gear and Mastermind is a waste without an army of pets from a second mastery.

A great way to build a Diviner is a Vitality damage focused build with a staff. Ternion Attack as a LMB skill, Life Drain as a RMB skill. Then Distort Reality (1 point is fine) with the synergy maxxed as a CC option. Get Deathchill Aura, Trance of Wrath and Circle of Power to reduce enemy resistances, Recharge Reduction so that you can use Life Drain more often (with the 40 point synergy Soul Drain, it's probably the best AoE skill in the game) and wreck enemies.

Liche benefits from Bonus to Pets items same as any other pets do.

Liche doesn't benefit from pet gear that gives flat damage bonus, atleast that's what I heard. So they scale worse than other pets. Still a very powerful pet.

Though, I'd be glad to hear if that's wrong/outdated information.

[Wagi]

Hey o/

I'd be really interested to know what is the source of this:

Originally posted by Eltar:

Liche doesn't benefit from pet gear that gives flat damage bonus, atleast that's what I heard.

Because there are no indications anywhere in the files that it would be the case. The Liche King is a pet like any other pet. So either all pets get the damage bonus or all don't.

Here is the list of all summonable entities and whether they benefit from the pet bonuses or not: Wagi - Titan Quest - Guide (Google Sheet) [docs.google.com]
This is directly taken from the files.

This link is pinned everywhere on the official server Discord [discord.gg] which I invite anyone to join as the community is more active there.

Wagi

[Elriadon]

Originally posted by Wagi:

Hey o/

I'd be really interested to know what is the source of this:

Originally posted by Eltar:

Liche doesn't benefit from pet gear that gives flat damage bonus, atleast that's what I heard.

Because there are no indications anywhere in the files that it would be the case. The Liche King is a pet like any other pet. So either all pets get the damage bonus or all don't.

A few of the guides here and some reddit threads. Might be from some previous version? Not sure. Anyway, glad to see that it's wrong!

[Wagi]

Hey o/

I come back to correct myself.

Originally posted by Fae:

Flat damage works only with Arcane Blast skill, the other attacks of the Liche benefit only from the % from pet gear.

It seems some pet do have specificities that are not indicated in the files.

I will update the spreadsheet linked in my previous answer to specify them.

Feel free to join the community on the official Discord server [discord.gg], where the community is the most active.

THQ Nordic Moderator

Wagi

[chris.ferrantegerard]

Stave attacker Diviners are pretty popular I think. Ternion is great for shotgunning packs and Psionic Beam with Atlantis DLC turns your stave into a laser. Vitality stave for primary attack to combo with Spirit skills with an alternate elemental stave for backup. Mix in some spells like Life Drain and Distort Reality and support passives/spells.

Pets get buffed by gear that gives them bonuses (accessories and staves have fixes for these, some random epic/legendaries, etc. do as well), your own stats have no impact on them. So you'd probably be better off using them as a more support role if you want them, for a more pet focus build I prefer to have more pets available and use the gear slots for Diviner to buff yourself.

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by chris.ferrantegerard:

Stave attacker Diviners are pretty popular I think. Ternion is great for shotgunning packs and Psionic Beam with Atlantis DLC turns your stave into a laser. Vitality stave for primary attack to combo with Spirit skills with an alternate elemental stave for backup. Mix in some spells like Life Drain and Distort Reality and support passives/spells.

Pets get buffed by gear that gives them bonuses (accessories and staves have fixes for these, some random epic/legendaries, etc. do as well), your own stats have no impact on them. So you'd probably be better off using them as a more support role if you want them, for a more pet focus build I prefer to have more pets available and use the gear slots for Diviner to buff yourself.

Thanks, i will try that. Dream alone is great mastery, with spirit that can be some fun.

[Elriadon]

Originally posted by Wagi:

Hey o/

I come back to correct myself.

Originally posted by Fae:

Flat damage works only with Arcane Blast skill, the other attacks of the Liche benefit only from the % from pet gear.

It seems some pet do have specificities that are not indicated in the files.

I will update the spreadsheet linked in my previous answer to specify them.

Feel free to join the community on the official Discord server [discord.gg], where the community is the most active.

THQ Nordic Moderator

Wagi

Glad that was solved then, even if I'm a bit disappointed that I was right and nearly all of Liche King's attacks don't benefit from flat damage bonuses. Oh well, thanks for the information!