Ragnarok and Atlantis Expansions - worth buying?

[J0ker]

I just started playing TQ:AE again and I'm thinking about getting mentioned above expansions. Are they worth buying? Atlantis have mixed reviews. Currently I have different champs on Epic and Legendary difficulty and I've never had any problems with disappearing characters etc. I heard expansions are full of bugs and glitches (especially Atlantis).
I'm also interested how's the compatibility looks. As I understand players with DLC can join games created by TQ:AE owners, but players with basic game can't join games created by DLC owners.

[Thorp]

I only have Atlantis and I found it to be a good expansion except for one problem: frame rate drops.

It seems that the main city hub and a few other locations are packed with so much stuff that the game just can't handle it.

I feel like the Atlantis expansion blends in well enough with TQ; it actually feels like the original devs built most of it.

[chris.ferrantegerard]

Publicado originalmente por J0ker:

I just started playing TQ:AE again and I'm thinking about getting mentioned above expansions. Are they worth buying? Atlantis have mixed reviews.

Ragnarok adds a fairly long fifth act based off Norse mythology, a new mastery (Rune) which is kind of a mage-knight hybrid, throwing weapons (DLC items still drop in game even if you don't have expansions btw, you just can't pick them up), and pretty good loot.

Atlantis adds an optional mid-sized act which is sort of act ~4.5. Introduces a gambler, arena mode (Tartarus), unique loot and increases mastery levels to 40 and adds two additional skills for each mastery at lvl 40. Has some performance issues at times and there are bugs related to it.

I'd say Ragnarok is a good pickup, Atlantis only if you really like the game and / or it's on sale.

I'm also interested how's the compatibility looks. As I understand players with DLC can join games created by TQ:AE owners, but players with basic game can't join games created by DLC owners.

Yes, that is correct. The player without the DLC must host the game.

[J0ker]

Yeah, I heard about FPS drops even on moderns rigs and my PC is kinda old, but TQ works flawlessly.

Probably I'll buy Ragnarok first, because new act looks promising and it should be more polished overall. Currently it's on sale on GOG for less than 5 euro, but I don't think it'll work with my TQ:AE, which is steam version.

New skills and mastery levels from Atlantis also seems to be nice. Also the bigger and shared stash should have been added long time ago. Anyway I'm using TQVault so it doesn't matter that much.

[sachatara]

no both very crappy expension to be honest :( was way better with immortal throne as the last one

[Zyddie]

Publicado originalmente por sachatara:

no both very crappy expension to be honest :( was way better with immortal throne as the last one

I would love to hear what you think is so bad about the expansions tbh, the only way we can improve and make better stuff in the future is to get good, in-depth and civil feedback so yea, please feel free to expand what you mean by very crappy in this case.

//Zyddie

[SangReal]

Well, I personally love both of them. Atlantis fits right in with the original and IT lore-wise and Ragnarok adds Norse mythology. They are pretty pricey at the moment (15 and 20 bucks) for expansions to an older game, so maybe waiting for a sale on at least one would be a good idea. I think Ragnarok is more bang for the buck, but I prefer Atlantis myself, as it fits in so well with the originals.

[tgExcalibur]

Publicado originalmente por Zyddie:

Publicado originalmente por sachatara:

no both very crappy expension to be honest :( was way better with immortal throne as the last one

I would love to hear what you think is so bad about the expansions tbh, the only way we can improve and make better stuff in the future is to get good, in-depth and civil feedback so yea, please feel free to expand what you mean by very crappy in this case.

//Zyddie

To be honest Zyddie, I think most players including me, don't expect that their opinion matters to you, no offense intended. I've supported this game and your effort in everything but every-time I posted something I never saw it implemented.

I, of course, understand that you can't go with everyone's suggestion but the stuff I was posting were mostly QoL things.I don't even know whether I should try posting them again or whether they were even considered.

I can't deny the fact that you are checking and instantly fixing major bugs that are being reported but for the rest stuff which has to do with suggestions, content and so on, I can't be sure.

[ponury_indor]

Atlantis is 'side act' that can be played when you reach 4th act, it has technical issues (frame drops), it also adds gambling and more skills for each Mastery.
Ragnarok adds 5th act with confusing maps and a little too much backtracking for hack and slash. It also adds Runes Mastery and new formulas. Both dlcs have their issues, but it's more of Titan Quest. If you play it on normal and uninstall don't waste your money, but if you are fan of this genre, like grinding and maxing out characters then I'd say that both dlcs are worth it.

[Terotrous]

Ragnarok is easily worth it. You get a new mastery, thrown weapons, the ability to enchant blues and purples through a quest, and the new act is generally fairly cool and feels like a decent end to the game.

I'm far more mixed on Atlantis. The best thing about the new DLC is easily the new tier of skills for each mastery. Some of these are a bit underwhelming, but the majority are fairly cool, and new options for character building is always a plus because it's the core of the game. However, the story content for Atlantis is extremely underwhelming. By far the biggest problem with the Atlantis content is that none of the quests in the Atlantis chapter reward anything significant, only exp and money, and not even in significant quantities. A character who has just reached Act 4 and chooses to go to Atlantis will gain at most a couple levels in that 4-5 hour stretch. When you compare to the rewards given by any other act in the game, it feels like there's basically no point doing the Atlantis content and I would likely recommend doing it once then skipping it every time thereafter. As for the content itself, the areas are kind of pretty, but the lag is atrocious and the story feels very barebones since it doesn't tie into the main quest in any way whatsoever.

At the very least, the Atlantis content should reward some randomized good loot, as most other quests in the game do. I also feel that, in Legendary at least, you should get at least a few skill or stat points for finishing it. Right now it just feels like a throwaway campaign.

[sarcastic_godot]

I say "yes, worth buying".

Rune Mastery is nice, as are thrown weapons, even though the Ragnarök maps are a bit meh. Atlantis is a bit smaller and denser, but still worth the money.

And the hacker people who care for this vintage gem of a game are worth supporting them by buying their stuff.

[_Mocking_Bird_]

Ragnarok - yes
Atlantis - No

Ragnarok adds something to the story for advancing, atlantis is just there to go trough and even the items are not worth it.

Atlantis is like a Side Quest.
Ragnarok is a Main quest with some nice stuff.

Also in Ragnarok in the Database are a lot of Rings and Amulets that have names and are Epic or Legendary but dont have any Stats.