Items not showing

[Hoef]

I'm having a problem with items drops, sometimes an item just lays on the ground and you can clearly see the yellow/green/blue/purple sparkle coming from it, but even when i hit alt a few times, it's still not showing it's name so i can pick it up while the other items surrouding it are. Anyone got an idea how to fix this?

[IFIYGD]

But the Ragnarok expansion DLC and install it.
Those items are likely Ragnarock-only tiems. But they decided to add them to the base game so non DLC owners can look at them and get ticked off.

[Hoef]

Ahh, thanks a lot!

[Malgardian]

"But they decided to add them to the base game so non DLC owners can play MP with DLC owners."

FTFY

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by Malgardian:

"But they decided to add them to the base game so non DLC owners can play MP with DLC owners."

FTFY

And so those who want to play the game Singleplayer, the way THQ originally developed the game for, can get ticked off that their solo game now has a ton of stuff they can't touch, while playing SOLO.

FTFY2

[Britannicus]

A bunch of new content that they didn't want to buy. They didn't lose anything they had any right to, you know.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by Britannicus:

A bunch of new content that they didn't want to buy. They didn't lose anything they had any right to, you know.

Technically, we DID. Half of our merchant space is filled with DLC-only items we can't buy, and the vendor space is NOT increased, to offer us the same number and quality of base game items as we had before. Half of out loot tables for drops are now filled with DLC-only items, meaning we get less loot than we did before. Because we didn't pony up and buy a DLC many of us never wanted.

[OldMemes.biz]

I wouldn't care, if it didn't throw off loot tables.

If you only own base AE w/o Ragnarok, then you shouldn't get Ragnarok items in your base game loot tables. Period.

"It's for multiplayer." Yeah ok 1. multiplayer is an exception, not a norm and 2. from what I've been reading, Rag and multiplayer aren't cooperating anyway.

Nordic can say whatever they want, but anyone with a brain knows this is meant to tick off people who haven't bought Ragnarok in hopes it compels them to.

Let's look at it like this:

There's a good number of us who received AE for free, since we were owners of the original TQ + IT. That's how I got AE. So those are people who Nordic didn't make money off of. Which was fine, because now in hindsight, we see why they did that; makes us all happy over a polished up full package that we got for free, then hit us with DLC later.

So now, this is how they are going to get their money. Not that there's anything wrong (a corporation wants to make a profit?! God forbid! lol) but the way they are doing it is asinine.

By and large, any games that have DLC that introduce new items will not force the DLC items in to base game content. It HAS happened, but it's very rare. I have been gaming since the early 90s (longer, but before that doesn't really count much), to include many an aRPG and many titles with DLCs (once those became a thing), and this sort of thing rarely happens.

If it didn't throw off loot tables and vendor slots, then whatever. But it does. Any chest I open in base game content that drops a Rag only item is a wasted drop, and Nordic knows it, and they hope it makes me buy Ragnarok.

And you know something? I was going to buy Ragnarok. Until I read reviews. And then it became apparant to me that Ragnarok was rushed and done lazily.

So lazy + rushing + throwing off base game loot tables = unabashed cash grab.

No thanks.

[Crusader]

If you don't want to pay the full price for the expansion, just throw it on your wishlist and wait for it to pop up in a sale. I bought mine for less than 10 Euro's a while ago that way.

[OldMemes.biz]

Originally posted by Crusader:

If you don't want to pay the full price for the expansion, just throw it on your wishlist and wait for it to pop up in a sale. I bought mine for less than 10 Euro's a while ago that way.

That is not the point at all.

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by Steve Brule, M.D.:

Originally posted by Crusader:

If you don't want to pay the full price for the expansion, just throw it on your wishlist and wait for it to pop up in a sale. I bought mine for less than 10 Euro's a while ago that way.

That is not the point at all.

I think they miss the point of... some of us do not want the DLC Ragnarok expac at all, at any price. I had t on my Wish List when it first came out, but I never buy anything when it first comes out. Not games, not DLCs, not new cars, not new tech... I wait to see how many problems are reported, and what action is taken to fix those problems. The fact that 10 year old bugs still exist in the base game, that Nordic keeps saying "Don't exist... we fixxxxxed it!", while people keep posting threads reporting the same bugs, over and over... yeah. I haven't seen enough work done to fix old game-breaking bugs, and basically none to fix the new ones. So... not interested in giving Nordic a penny more than I already have, buying multiple games they bought the IPs for and "updated" to release again. They grabbed enough of my cash already.

Shame, TQ and TQ:IE used to be my favorites. Wait. They still are. Becuase I can still play the original THQ made games, and ignore this one. :)

[Malgardian]

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

The fact that 10 year old bugs still exist in the base game...

Those you still haven't told me about, even though I asked multiple times? At this point I doubt they exist.

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

So... not interested in giving Nordic a penny more than I already have, buying multiple games they bought the IPs for and "updated" to release again. They grabbed enough of my cash already.

Shame, TQ and TQ:IE used to be my favorites. Wait. They still are. Becuase I can still play the original THQ made games, and ignore this one. :)

Fair enough, but one has to wonder why you're still here fanning the flames everytime this comes up?

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by Malgardian:

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

The fact that 10 year old bugs still exist in the base game...

Those you still haven't told me about, even though I asked multiple times? At this point I doubt they exist.

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

So... not interested in giving Nordic a penny more than I already have, buying multiple games they bought the IPs for and "updated" to release again. They grabbed enough of my cash already.

Shame, TQ and TQ:IE used to be my favorites. Wait. They still are. Becuase I can still play the original THQ made games, and ignore this one. :)

Fair enough, but one has to wonder why you're still here fanning the flames everytime this comes up?

I HAVE told you and others about the bugs,. I posted several threads about the Eye of Chaos one, and contacted Nordic via their website AND sent savegames... I've told about it MULTIPLE times, you just haven't bothered to search my post history, or you or another admin/mod have deleted them, perhaps? Or you have simply disregarded my posts, because TL;DR FTFY attitude?

I get it, you work for them, so you have to act like "everything is PERFECT". For those of us NOT getting paid by Nordic... it isn't perfect, by a long shot.

GO back and search ALL threads for reports of issues with the quest involving the Eye of Chaos dearie. I am not the only one who has reported it, many times.

[Malgardian]

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

Originally posted by Malgardian:

Those you still haven't told me about, even though I asked multiple times? At this point I doubt they exist.


Fair enough, but one has to wonder why you're still here fanning the flames everytime this comes up?

I HAVE told you and others about the bugs,. I posted several threads about the Eye of Chaos one, and contacted Nordic via their website AND sent savegames... I've told about it MULTIPLE times, you just haven't bothered to search my post history, or you or another admin/mod have deleted them, perhaps? Or you have simply disregarded my posts, because TL;DR FTFY attitude?

I get it, you work for them, so you have to act like "everything is PERFECT". For those of us NOT getting paid by Nordic... it isn't perfect, by a long shot.

GO back and search ALL threads for reports of issues with the quest involving the Eye of Chaos dearie. I am not the only one who has reported it, many times.

1) I'm not getting paid, I'm a volunteer moderator. The reason I'm admonishing you is that you derail the thread everytime you bring this up. I get your critism, it's a valid one. But not in every single related thread. The devs have stated their reason for the way things are and have said that it's not an ideal solution. You may see ulterior motives, but that's your opinion and not necessarily fact.

2) 1) is also the reason why I'm not going through your post history to find bugs you may or may not have posted. Post them in a thread as a direct reply to me or as a general reply/thread. Cool if you send them to Nordic directly that works too, but that's out of my hands. Also, I'm not deleting stuff that isn't rulebreaking, I have no personal interest in removing your posts if they don't break any rules.

[Rin²³]

Is there ANY way to disable rag item drop and all that stuff? Can I patch it back to the previous version somehow? Maybe manually change some files?

[Malgardian]

Originally posted by Ryadovoi_Gook:

Is there ANY way to disable rag item drop and all that stuff? Can I patch it back to the previous version somehow? Maybe manually change some files?

Creating a mod should work if you don't care about MP. I had some ideas for a mod, but I didn't have time to make it. Editing the merchant loottables might be a good start with easily visible results.