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talloyer 24 Haz 2023 @ 13:41
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Saga Anderson was RACE-SWAPPED for Alan Wake II
Even though Quantum Break and Alan Wake are supposed to be IPs with their own universe, did you know Quantum Break had an easter egg teasing Alan Wake 2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iePFK5BB_m4 I missed or I forgot about it, cannot remember which, definitely didn't pay attention when I played Quantum Break years ago.
Edit: there is a picture from Sam Lake himself showing very clearly the name "Saga Anderson" on her badge when she committed the "awful crime" of daring to be White: https://twitter.com/SamLakeRMD/status/677615946241060864/photo/1
Considering Alan Wake II is now a real thing, this teaser falls very much in line with the premise of the game shown so far to the pointing of making Saga Anderson not so random after all, which mitigates my frustration with the forced co-protagonist in Alan Wake II.
My issue is, Remedy Entertainment completely changed Saga Anderson's appearance for Alan Wake II to the point of Race-Swapping - https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/06/14/alan-wake-ii-race-swaps-saga-anderson-replaces-original-actress-malla-malmivaara-with-the-idol-actress-melanie-liburd/ - and I despise this change, Race-Swapping is Woke and spreads Racism among Society with the pretense of "inclusion" or "diversity". Imagine if there was Quantum Break 2 and Remedy Entertainment decided to race-swap Martin Hatch (RIP, Lance Reddick) to be portrayed by the likes of Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth, white guys; just as bad.
To be fair, from the trailer, Saga was never properly named there, and only from her FBI badge her name can be barely seen (Alex Casey's name was written with big letters on the board as missing person), which is certainly why most of us had missed this detail. Some "brilliant mind" in Remedy Entertainment must have dismissed the issue of race-swapping Saga Anderson ("bah, nodody will notice, who cares") but this Woke decision backfired on them, especially when Melanie Liburd committed Wokeness in promotional material of Alan Wake II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgL99_0cihQ&t=158s
I do not know nor really care why Malla Malmivaara didn't return to Alan Wake 2, but would it hurt so badly to just recast her with another blonde white actress? Why not cast Melanie Liburd as another supporting character important to the plot of Alan Wake II, as a resident of Bright Falls, for example? Everybody happy, but nooo, this was clearly not good enough for Remedy Entertainment.
I wonder if Remedy Entertainment will bother to write a "narrative excuse" for the race-swapping in Alan Wake II (which would make sense if Saga Anderson is just a construct created by Alan Wake) or just pretend this easter egg never existed.
Wokeness shall cost Remedy Entertainment more than they are willing to admit. It did not have to be this way. :VGRUMPY:
En son talloyer tarafından düzenlendi; 4 Ara 2023 @ 9:20
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I had no idea that they race-swapped in Alan Wake 2 until today, that is racist, no other way around it. You can try to defend race-swapping all you want, but at the end of the day you are just justifying racism, like all these comments I just read on here that pretend they don't see an issue with race-swapping or pretend they don't understand why it's racist. Oh please, it's extremely common now for people to pretend to not know why something is controversial...playing dumb doesn't work with me, you aren't so stupid that you don't know what the problem is. smfh at the phony people pretending to not understand why race-swapping is racist or who pretend this is a rightwing issue (it's not the rightwing that participates in race-swapping, that racism comes from the leftwing only.) And no, I'm not a republican, never voted for Trump yet the support of race-swapping and full-on racism are some of the reasons why I left the democratic party a few years ago, I just can't be a democrat anymore because the party has become super racist or maybe it was always super racist and I never noticed, they did create the KKK after all. So anyway, I'm not leftwing so I will never be okay with the racist act of race-swapping.
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And exactly what narrative am I pushing? My "narrative" is that the game has woke garbage in it...my issues with the game (which I've already stated in front of you, and you deliberately ignored) are that the lighting is bad, the gameplay is slow, and the jumpscares got really old really fast.

You haven't replied to a single one of these criticisms, and instead fell back some imaginary cope-based fantasy of me somehow "dodging" questions, and something even.more insane like saying I was witch hunting the devs.

Well my original questions of "How are you gonna explain this to people without buzz words" besides "How would you fix the narrative" were never answered so i moved onto your lil ego trip which goes a bit beyond the games scope, no?

Because sure you have explanations of the game we've gone over this already.
But well hard to want to engage on specifics with you for the story when you haven't actually completed it.
And you seem to be more engaged about the company rather than the decisions and development of the games story. In a franchise connected to MULTIVERSES no less.
That coupled with the constant High-horse bits of dialogue like "Made you bleed enough" (That was a fun one to read) just makes you seem like someone trying to argue more for brownie points than actual discussion and engagement.
You've literally scared off any and all discussion because of these things as you pidgeon hole everyone's arguments to fit into the morality box, instead of logic and reason.
Isn't that exactly what you don't want to be happening?
I didn't consider the question about buzzwords to be worth answering due to finding it reductive. Why do I find it reductive? Because referring to your opponent's term-usage in a debate as "buzzwords" isn't actually making a counter-point; rather, it's just a thinly veiled attack on a person's intellect, and is akin to implying that the person isn't smart enough to have an in-depth discussion. Furthermore, the "buzzwords" are directly related to the topic being discussed, so I'm not going to exclude it simply because someone feels I'm "over-relying" on it, least of all when I've gone into far more explanatory depth in previous posts than any buzzword could ever hope to reach.

As for the multiverses and woke content? Let me make something perfectly clear. I understand how the multiverse concept could potentially lead to a character appearing different, and it being a completely innocent change, but I am also aware of how the multiverse concept can be manipulated to insert propaganda.

As for the story? Outside of when I was playing as Alan, which had been very little up to the point where I cut myself off, I simply didn't play enough to remain interested. I wanted to see a little more happen with Tor and Odin, but just didn't receive enough, and I was more interested in Alan focusing on trying to rescue his girlfriend, which again I haven't seen any hints of. Beyond that, I have CONSIDERED finishing the game at times, but that consideration is fleeting at best. Plus I have other hobbies that regularly grab my attention, and by the time I'm through immersing myself in those, another, more interesting game has already caught my eye.

Lastly, if people are being scared off, that's their problem, not mine.
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I didn't consider the question about buzzwords to be worth answering due to finding it reductive. Why do I find it reductive? Because referring to your opponent's term-usage in a debate as "buzzwords" isn't actually making a counter-point; rather, it's just a thinly veiled attack on a person's intellect, and is akin to implying that the person isn't smart enough to have an in-depth discussion. Furthermore, the "buzzwords" are directly related to the topic being discussed, so I'm not going to exclude it simply because someone feels I'm "over-relying" on it, least of all when I've gone into far more explanatory depth in previous posts than any buzzword could ever hope to reach.

As for the multiverses and woke content? Let me make something perfectly clear. I understand how the multiverse concept could potentially lead to a character appearing different, and it being a completely innocent change, but I am also aware of how the multiverse concept can be manipulated to insert propaganda.

As for the story? Outside of when I was playing as Alan, which had been very little up to the point where I cut myself off, I simply didn't play enough to remain interested. I wanted to see a little more happen with Tor and Odin, but just didn't receive enough, and I was more interested in Alan focusing on trying to rescue his girlfriend, which again I haven't seen any hints of. Beyond that, I have CONSIDERED finishing the game at times, but that consideration is fleeting at best. Plus I have other hobbies that regularly grab my attention, and by the time I'm through immersing myself in those, another, more interesting game has already caught my eye.

Lastly, if people are being scared off, that's their problem, not mine.

I'm sure your use of calling people "Snowflakes" in past comments was very much on brand and relative to the topic at hand...
Just there it is again, that jaggedness of apathy to everyone you talk to.
I don't mean people are literally scarred, i mean it in the most basic way possible- they'd rather not waste time on you.

With that you should consider the use of jargon very well is a point of contention given how it simplifies, or especially obfuscates, an argument too much. No i do not mean using "mainstream" wording if you will, instead more entertaining the faults and issues in any of these arguments and why they are.
Because anyone can just call you a snowflake or slur, delusional especially, and go on their merry way now since your branded as something.
In this case though i also refer to acting on morals, specifically branding the company itself as immoral by just calling it woke or such and that's that.

And thank you for pointing out exactly why i don't see a point in asking for your take on the story anymore.
If your not interested in how it could have been changed narratively then why would i bother asking you about it at all?
You've already moved on and seem to not even entertain the idea others may actually enjoy the gameplay/narratives, despite it's faults.

So i will point out and ask by what do you mean propaganda?
Is it for the player or the company image itself?
En son CyanCatMan tarafından düzenlendi; 27 Şub 2024 @ 15:53
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I didn't consider the question about buzzwords to be worth answering due to finding it reductive. Why do I find it reductive? Because referring to your opponent's term-usage in a debate as "buzzwords" isn't actually making a counter-point; rather, it's just a thinly veiled attack on a person's intellect, and is akin to implying that the person isn't smart enough to have an in-depth discussion. Furthermore, the "buzzwords" are directly related to the topic being discussed, so I'm not going to exclude it simply because someone feels I'm "over-relying" on it, least of all when I've gone into far more explanatory depth in previous posts than any buzzword could ever hope to reach.

As for the multiverses and woke content? Let me make something perfectly clear. I understand how the multiverse concept could potentially lead to a character appearing different, and it being a completely innocent change, but I am also aware of how the multiverse concept can be manipulated to insert propaganda.

As for the story? Outside of when I was playing as Alan, which had been very little up to the point where I cut myself off, I simply didn't play enough to remain interested. I wanted to see a little more happen with Tor and Odin, but just didn't receive enough, and I was more interested in Alan focusing on trying to rescue his girlfriend, which again I haven't seen any hints of. Beyond that, I have CONSIDERED finishing the game at times, but that consideration is fleeting at best. Plus I have other hobbies that regularly grab my attention, and by the time I'm through immersing myself in those, another, more interesting game has already caught my eye.

Lastly, if people are being scared off, that's their problem, not mine.

So i will point out and ask by what do you mean propaganda?
Is it for the player or the company image itself?

Propaganda is when Remedy games consults with sweetbabyinc, a consulting company explicitly made to help games present an experience featuring content that people would deem woke.

https://sweetbabyinc.com/projects/

"We believe you need diverse voices to solve diverse problems. Sweet Baby Inc. provides narrative consultation at any stage of development, boasting a talented team with vetted industry experience to best bring your story to life."

The simple fact of the matter is propaganda exists in Alan Wake 2, and it comes in the form of woke trash, and minimal or otherwise doesn't make a difference to me. I call it like I see it, especially when the company doing is being so open and clear about their intent to transform the game into one of "their" products.
Alan Wake 2 is literally listed under their projects list.
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Propaganda is when Remedy games consults with sweetbabyinc, a consulting company explicitly made to help games present an experience featuring content that people would deem woke.

https://sweetbabyinc.com/projects/

"We believe you need diverse voices to solve diverse problems. Sweet Baby Inc. provides narrative consultation at any stage of development, boasting a talented team with vetted industry experience to best bring your story to life."

The simple fact of the matter is propaganda exists in Alan Wake 2, and it comes in the form of woke trash, and minimal or otherwise doesn't make a difference to me. I call it like I see it, especially when the company doing is being so open and clear about their intent to transform the game into one of "their" products.
Alan Wake 2 is literally listed under their projects list.

Geeze good to see you doing your ignoring thing again, besides using "Woke" and generalizing things yet again.
Because you said literally nothing here.
You described a company working with another company wow.
All i'm seeing is you grasping at straws here... because who's saying they're pushing an agenda? You? Calling it like you see it? I'm starting to think your the issue here...
En son CyanCatMan tarafından düzenlendi; 27 Şub 2024 @ 21:16
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Propaganda is when Remedy games consults with sweetbabyinc, a consulting company explicitly made to help games present an experience featuring content that people would deem woke.

https://sweetbabyinc.com/projects/

"We believe you need diverse voices to solve diverse problems. Sweet Baby Inc. provides narrative consultation at any stage of development, boasting a talented team with vetted industry experience to best bring your story to life."

The simple fact of the matter is propaganda exists in Alan Wake 2, and it comes in the form of woke trash, and minimal or otherwise doesn't make a difference to me. I call it like I see it, especially when the company doing is being so open and clear about their intent to transform the game into one of "their" products.
Alan Wake 2 is literally listed under their projects list.

Geeze good to see you doing your ignoring thing again, besides using "Woke" and generalizing things yet again.
Because you said literally nothing here.
You described a company working with another company wow.
All i'm seeing is you grasping at straws here... because who's saying they're pushing an agenda? You? Calling it like you see it? I'm starting to think your the issue here...
The company just straight up told you to your face that they're pushing an agenda. I must say your ability to fly straight into denial is off the charts, but that's not surprising, considering you completely lack the ability to accept reality in any form that runs contrary to your views.
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The company just straight up told you to your face that they're pushing an agenda. I must say your ability to fly straight into denial is off the charts, but that's not surprising, considering you completely lack the ability to accept reality in any form that runs contrary to your views.

Projecting, projecting, projecting.
You ever consider its just a simple thing and not some grand conspiracy?

Picture this:
You want to add a swamp environment to a game, but you’ve only ever seen a desert in your life.
Are you going to make one based soley off of random ideas you've heard about?
No, thats insane. You’ll go look up swamps for reference.

Same thing here but with say added bits of folk lore.
Unless your alright with stereotyping cultures and people so you can push certain agendas- so do tell whats the issue here again?
En son CyanCatMan tarafından düzenlendi; 28 Şub 2024 @ 7:28
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The company just straight up told you to your face that they're pushing an agenda. I must say your ability to fly straight into denial is off the charts, but that's not surprising, considering you completely lack the ability to accept reality in any form that runs contrary to your views.

Projecting, projecting, projecting.
You ever consider its just a simple thing and not some grand conspiracy?

Picture this:
You want to add a swamp environment to a game, but you’ve only ever seen a desert in your life.
Are you going to make one based soley off of random ideas you've heard about?
No, thats insane. You’ll go look up swamps for reference.

Same thing here but with say added bits of folk lore.
Unless your alright with stereotyping cultures and people so you can push certain agendas- so do tell whats the issue here again?
If a company website describes their company practices in terms people on a specific side of the political aisle subscribe to, then they are technically pushing an agenda. This completely transcends my personal opinion AND yours, because what's being read is an objective reality, not a subjective perspective. Also, it's not a "grand conspiracy", it's what all groups naturally do: push their values using various forms of messaging. You should learn what appealing to extremes in an argument is before you try using hyperbole to misrepresent someone's intentions, but since you apparently read my full backlog, you'd know all about how aware I am of such techniques.

As for your your counter-examples? Neither of them work, because the goal isn't to gather objective information for a relatively impersonal task, not in regards to sweetbabyinc. Sweetbabyinc's goal is to influence the sociocultural landscape of video-games, and they've dug their claws into so many famous titles, and ruined them, that we're now starting to see a massive loss in sales, and will continue to see them for as long they keep on with their work. I'm sure you'll probably go flying into denial over that one too, and claim it's just "projecting" in another cope post.

Also, just as a little side-note: stereotypes can and do provide a GENERALIZED representation of culture that is accurate on a fundamental level. It should never be applied to individuals, because it's not supposed to, and that's where it actually becomes bad, and genuinely harmful. You use the stereotype to form a base, then mold/adjust the characters and plot structure to fit the narrative you want to craft. It's like making a cake -- there are layers. Hopefully with this knowledge in mind, you won't try to do something as donkeyish as trying to bait me into painting myself as an abuser of terminology, or to put it bluntly: do to me what you literally just did to yourself.
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If a company website describes their company practices in terms people on a specific side of the political aisle subscribe to, then they are technically pushing an agenda. This completely transcends my personal opinion AND yours, because what's being read is an objective reality, not a subjective perspective. Also, it's not a "grand conspiracy", it's what all groups naturally do: push their values using various forms of messaging. You should learn what appealing to extremes in an argument is before you try using hyperbole to misrepresent someone's intentions, but since you apparently read my full backlog, you'd know all about how aware I am of such techniques.

As for your your counter-examples? Neither of them work, because the goal isn't to gather objective information for a relatively impersonal task, not in regards to sweetbabyinc. Sweetbabyinc's goal is to influence the sociocultural landscape of video-games, and they've dug their claws into so many famous titles, and ruined them, that we're now starting to see a massive loss in sales, and will continue to see them for as long they keep on with their work. I'm sure you'll probably go flying into denial over that one too, and claim it's just "projecting" in another cope post.

Also, just as a little side-note: stereotypes can and do provide a GENERALIZED representation of culture that is accurate on a fundamental level. It should never be applied to individuals, because it's not supposed to, and that's where it actually becomes bad, and genuinely harmful. You use the stereotype to form a base, then mold/adjust the characters and plot structure to fit the narrative you want to craft. It's like making a cake -- there are layers. Hopefully with this knowledge in mind, you won't try to do something as donkeyish as trying to bait me into painting myself as an abuser of terminology, or to put it bluntly: do to me what you literally just did to yourself.

Goodness gracious i don't even need to care about what i type now holy...

This man really said "technically pushing an agenda" then proceeds to pull 3 paragraphs out of nothing before accusing me of being the issue here.
The lack of self awareness is baffling chat.
Man- it must be a pretty sad and weak culture that you are fighting so hard for. What about your culture is at risk by the inclusion of more diverse voices?

You have spent over 20 pages of comments ranting about a game you didn't finish, on a forum FOR A DIFFERENT GAME that is only related in the loosest possible way due to copyright infringements. You deeply care about this subject in a way that I find both horrifying and fascinating.

What is the specific threat that your culture faces from all this "wokeness" that you are concerned about?

Let's say that you are 100% correct in everything you say about this and all the other great modern games are just "woke propaganda" and now the vast majority of the world is "woke." What has been lost in your culture? what in this new woke world will you be without? maybe I'm just a dumb dummy who doesn't get what is really at stake here. so please be plain and clear so dummies like me can understand.

What is the threat that "wokeness" presents to your culture or your personal day to day life?
En son DruAndrew tarafından düzenlendi; 28 Şub 2024 @ 10:12
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If a company website describes their company practices in terms people on a specific side of the political aisle subscribe to, then they are technically pushing an agenda. This completely transcends my personal opinion AND yours, because what's being read is an objective reality, not a subjective perspective. Also, it's not a "grand conspiracy", it's what all groups naturally do: push their values using various forms of messaging. You should learn what appealing to extremes in an argument is before you try using hyperbole to misrepresent someone's intentions, but since you apparently read my full backlog, you'd know all about how aware I am of such techniques.

As for your your counter-examples? Neither of them work, because the goal isn't to gather objective information for a relatively impersonal task, not in regards to sweetbabyinc. Sweetbabyinc's goal is to influence the sociocultural landscape of video-games, and they've dug their claws into so many famous titles, and ruined them, that we're now starting to see a massive loss in sales, and will continue to see them for as long they keep on with their work. I'm sure you'll probably go flying into denial over that one too, and claim it's just "projecting" in another cope post.

Also, just as a little side-note: stereotypes can and do provide a GENERALIZED representation of culture that is accurate on a fundamental level. It should never be applied to individuals, because it's not supposed to, and that's where it actually becomes bad, and genuinely harmful. You use the stereotype to form a base, then mold/adjust the characters and plot structure to fit the narrative you want to craft. It's like making a cake -- there are layers. Hopefully with this knowledge in mind, you won't try to do something as donkeyish as trying to bait me into painting myself as an abuser of terminology, or to put it bluntly: do to me what you literally just did to yourself.

Goodness gracious i don't even need to care about what i type now holy...

This man really said "technically pushing an agenda" then proceeds to pull 3 paragraphs out of nothing before accusing me of being the issue here.
The lack of self awareness is baffling chat.
No. You're just a hypocrite who got checkmated, and now you're seething over your loss.
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Man- it must be a pretty sad and weak culture that you are fighting so hard for. What about your culture is at risk by the inclusion of more diverse voices?

You have spent over 20 pages of comments ranting about a game you didn't finish, on a forum FOR A DIFFERENT GAME that is only related in the loosest possible way due to copyright infringements. You deeply care about this subject in a way that I find both horrifying and fascinating.

What is the specific threat that your culture faces from all this "wokeness" that you are concerned about?

Let's say that you are 100% correct in everything you say about this and all the other great modern games are just "woke propaganda" and now the vast majority of the world is "woke." What has been lost in your culture? what in this new woke world will you be without? maybe I'm just a dumb dummy who doesn't get what is really at stake here. so please be plain and clear so dummies like me can understand.

What is the threat that "wokeness" presents to your culture or your personal day to day life?
There are ways to have a racially diverse cast of characters without being woke. Here's how you do it: create a brand new character, leave the old ones as they are, and no one cares. This is how it used to be and literally no one cared. Nobody cared about whose skin color was what, and more often than not, culturally diverse characters had a tendency to be remembered very fondly, including by people like myself, because there was an actual love for the racial aesthetics, the culture, and all the things that composed who that character was and what they were about. That aspect no longer exists and damn near ninety nine percent of racially , diverse characters are politicized, or race-swapped from a different character.

The core threat I perceive from woke culture as it relates to gaming is it threatens escapism. I generally dislike politics, sociocultural discussions, and all that stuff, but woke culture has a tendency of forcing its way into the medium of my hobbies. Generally, and because woke content is so pervasive, this means I have to put actual effort into avoiding games that feature the stuff, and because that's not something I feel I should have to do, it becomes annoying enough that I feel the need to speak out against it.

Me, like other gamers just don't want to be reminded of all the dumb garbage permeating our world's society, culture, and politics, and just have a good time playing a fun game.
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There are ways to have a racially diverse cast of characters without being woke. Here's how you do it: create a brand new character, leave the old ones as they are, and no one cares. This is how it used to be and literally no one cared. Nobody cared about whose skin color was what, and more often than not, culturally diverse characters had a tendency to be remembered very fondly, including by people like myself, because there was an actual love for the racial aesthetics, the culture, and all the things that composed who that character was and what they were about. That aspect no longer exists and damn near ninety nine percent of racially , diverse characters are politicized, or race-swapped from a different character.

The core threat I perceive from woke culture as it relates to gaming is it threatens escapism. I generally dislike politics, sociocultural discussions, and all that stuff, but woke culture has a tendency of forcing its way into the medium of my hobbies. Generally, and because woke content is so pervasive, this means I have to put actual effort into avoiding games that feature the stuff, and because that's not something I feel I should have to do, it becomes annoying enough that I feel the need to speak out against it.

Me, like other gamers just don't want to be reminded of all the dumb garbage permeating our world's society, culture, and politics, and just have a good time playing a fun game.

Ok wait this is new- first what do you mean people like you?
"- including by people like myself, because there was an actual love for the racial aesthetics..."

And Isn't this all in a way being woke yourself as your just pointing at it instead of actuallly offering real solutions and evidence to this discussion?
Because if your actually willing to object to that statement then I'd love to ask things like:

-Where are you getting your sample size for virtually 99% of games to be this way. And if it is not "games" only then why are you generalizing this statistic.
-Do you have any actual PROOF this is the current situation for the gaming market beyond Allan wake 2? (If that's true to begin with)
-With hobbies, you mean solely videogames, or does that include other online/offline activitys? Be specific.
-Finally, if your fed up enough to speak out about it then why aren't you at least being informed in what your fighting about as it seems hypocritical or ignorant.
I.E. Not finishing the entirety of your playthrough but claiming the devs forced XYZ for no reason.
En son CyanCatMan tarafından düzenlendi; 28 Şub 2024 @ 13:01
İlk olarak Catastrophucked tarafından gönderildi:
...The core threat I perceive from woke culture as it relates to gaming is it threatens escapism. I generally dislike politics, sociocultural discussions, and all that stuff, but woke culture has a tendency of forcing its way into the medium of my hobbies. Generally, and because woke content is so pervasive, this means I have to put actual effort into avoiding games that feature the stuff, and because that's not something I feel I should have to do, it becomes annoying enough that I feel the need to speak out against it...

You have been very clear that you feel like wokeness has weaseled its way into your precious games, and even woke creators shouldn't make woke stuff because it upsets your political aesthetic. I didn't ask you where the threat is. I asked you WHAT is the threat that wokeness presents to your culture.

What about "woke culture" do you find threatening- so much so that you will engage in a behavior that you must despise. After all you have 20 pages of political discussion here, and you hate that ♥♥♥♥. So you must really hate this woke ideology that you keep talking about. But I'm not understanding what it is that you are actually having a conflict with here. "Woke" is a buzzword, that doesn't mean the same thing to you as it does to the people who invented that word.

So I ask you for plain and clear words. to explain to me - not what you wish would be free of wokeness- but what it is that you think wokeness is, or better yet- what about "wokeness" is a material threat to your way of life? When this agenda sneaks into your game, why is it so bad that you talk about it for weeks instead of just demand a refund, or not buy a product that you obviously disagree with?

I hate football. I think professional sports are dumb. so I don't go to games. When people I work with talk about sports, I don't engage. If they make fun of me for not liking their sportsball- I mock them for not knowing how to read. But that's the extent that I think about sports. The sports team in my town, and the sports part of the local news show is not a threat to my lifestyle- though I find it all quite distasteful. I don't discuss it on the internet.

Why is "Wokeness" so dangerous to you and your lifestyle?
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Me, like other gamers just don't want to be reminded of all the dumb garbage permeating our world's society, culture, and politics, and just have a good time playing a fun game.

Also, was there a specific moment within the narrative of the game that you "felt the wokeness" or anything like that? or were you just fuming the whole time thinking about this clip from Quantum Break, then researching what kind of companies Remedy wokes contracts with. Because it wasn't until I found this absurd thread that I even learned that there was a woke agenda anywhere in this game. I thought it was just all ghosts, Control crossovers, with some sweet David Lynch flair everywhere.

But I also have never felt threatened by "wokeness" so I'm not sure what I would be looking for.
I beat the heck outta this game. glad I didnt buy Alan Wake2 tho since a certain consultation firm hates my hobby, hates me enjoying my hobby , and hates the color of my skin.
En son 𝙈𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙡𝙤 tarafından düzenlendi; 6 Mar 2024 @ 1:56
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