Saga Anderson was RACE-SWAPPED for Alan Wake II

[talloyer]

Even though Quantum Break and Alan Wake are supposed to be IPs with their own universe, did you know Quantum Break had an easter egg teasing Alan Wake 2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iePFK5BB_m4 I missed or I forgot about it, cannot remember which, definitely didn't pay attention when I played Quantum Break years ago.
Edit: there is a picture from Sam Lake himself showing very clearly the name "Saga Anderson" on her badge when she committed the "awful crime" of daring to be White: https://twitter.com/SamLakeRMD/status/677615946241060864/photo/1
Considering Alan Wake II is now a real thing, this teaser falls very much in line with the premise of the game shown so far to the pointing of making Saga Anderson not so random after all, which mitigates my frustration with the forced co-protagonist in Alan Wake II.
My issue is, Remedy Entertainment completely changed Saga Anderson's appearance for Alan Wake II to the point of Race-Swapping - https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/06/14/alan-wake-ii-race-swaps-saga-anderson-replaces-original-actress-malla-malmivaara-with-the-idol-actress-melanie-liburd/ - and I despise this change, Race-Swapping is Woke and spreads Racism among Society with the pretense of "inclusion" or "diversity". Imagine if there was Quantum Break 2 and Remedy Entertainment decided to race-swap Martin Hatch (RIP, Lance Reddick) to be portrayed by the likes of Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth, white guys; just as bad.
To be fair, from the trailer, Saga was never properly named there, and only from her FBI badge her name can be barely seen (Alex Casey's name was written with big letters on the board as missing person), which is certainly why most of us had missed this detail. Some "brilliant mind" in Remedy Entertainment must have dismissed the issue of race-swapping Saga Anderson ("bah, nodody will notice, who cares") but this Woke decision backfired on them, especially when Melanie Liburd committed Wokeness in promotional material of Alan Wake II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgL99_0cihQ&t=158s
I do not know nor really care why Malla Malmivaara didn't return to Alan Wake 2, but would it hurt so badly to just recast her with another blonde white actress? Why not cast Melanie Liburd as another supporting character important to the plot of Alan Wake II, as a resident of Bright Falls, for example? Everybody happy, but nooo, this was clearly not good enough for Remedy Entertainment.
I wonder if Remedy Entertainment will bother to write a "narrative excuse" for the race-swapping in Alan Wake II (which would make sense if Saga Anderson is just a construct created by Alan Wake) or just pretend this easter egg never existed.
Wokeness shall cost Remedy Entertainment more than they are willing to admit. It did not have to be this way.

[Catastrophucked]

Messaggio originale di CyanCatMan:

So what's the issue here mr.gamer?
Is it just ONE line in a game that made you quit?
Or do you not like a games take on world building and decided to start these ramblings.
And how would you actually try to fix any of this without witch hunting people.

Nowhere did I even HINT that it was one line, or a single thing that made me quit. Stop pulling crap out of your butt for me to defend. I specifically stated the reason I dropped the game was because I didn't find the atmosphere very appealing, namely the lighting, repetitive jumpscares, and having to play as Saga for the majority of the game instead of the titular character - Alan Wake.

Saga being race-swapped garbage might have annoyed me, but it wasn't the reason that drove me to STOP PLAYING. It's the fact that the game as a whole just failed to hold my interest.

[CyanCatMan]

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

Nowhere did I even HINT that it was one line, or a single thing that made me quit. Stop pulling crap out of your butt for me to defend. I specifically stated the reason I dropped the game was because I didn't find the atmosphere very appealing, namely the lighting, repetitive jumpscares, and having to play as Saga for the majority of the game instead of the titular character - Alan Wake.

Saga being race-swapped garbage might have annoyed me, but it wasn't the reason that drove me to STOP PLAYING. It's the fact that the game as a whole just failed to hold my interest.

Well that's why i'm asking now isn't it? You almost portray yourself that way exactly if not for your incessant pinballing between Morals and actual game/story design.

But, mainly commenting on your one line that sticks out from you:
"Furthermore, there's a scene in which Saga expresses pride over her "Scandinavian heritage"... "

That's like the only actual example you give that's at any way relative to the topic being an issue, besides blatantly "switching" the character but that's already been discussed at this rate.
You really never gave much information about why you have issues with the game that are not morally related until well; lots of poking and prodding and someone outright saying you clearly didn't finish the game.

[Catastrophucked]

Messaggio originale di CyanCatMan:

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

Nowhere did I even HINT that it was one line, or a single thing that made me quit. Stop pulling crap out of your butt for me to defend. I specifically stated the reason I dropped the game was because I didn't find the atmosphere very appealing, namely the lighting, repetitive jumpscares, and having to play as Saga for the majority of the game instead of the titular character - Alan Wake.

Saga being race-swapped garbage might have annoyed me, but it wasn't the reason that drove me to STOP PLAYING. It's the fact that the game as a whole just failed to hold my interest.

Well that's why i'm asking now isn't it? You almost portray yourself that way exactly if not for your incessant pinballing between Morals and actual game/story design.

But, mainly commenting on your one line that sticks out from you:
"Furthermore, there's a scene in which Saga expresses pride over her "Scandinavian heritage"... "

That's like the only actual example you give that's at any way relative to the topic being an issue, besides blatantly "switching" the character but that's already been discussed at this rate.
You really never gave much information about why you have issues with the game that are not morally related until well; lots of poking and prodding and someone outright saying you clearly didn't finish the game.

I gave plenty of information in the earlier pages to a guy named startrekmike. I broke down my entire philosophy behind why I find woke content to be disgusting, insulting, and low-key 10x more racist than anything you leftist nutjobs could ever accuse people like me of being. The failure of finding that discussion, which lasted multiple pages, making it pretty hard to miss is entirely on you, and is attributable to you either being lazy, or simply choosing not to read posts that are inconvenient to your grossly short-sighted opinions.

Lastly, the reason I "pinball" -- read: address the FULL NATURE of, as well as all the different aspects of the topic being discussed, is because that's how you have a discussion. You do this weird thing where you continually try to reduce the argument down to a single point, then when that fails, you look for another angle, each one becoming less and less sophisticated as the argument continues.

Suffice to say your questions have been answered, your very weak arguments have been debunked, and you've done nothing except oust yourself as little more than a goal post shifter.

[CyanCatMan]

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

I gave plenty of information in the earlier pages to a guy named startrekmike. I broke down my entire philosophy behind why I find woke content to be disgusting, insulting, and low-key 10x more racist than anything you leftist nutjobs could ever accuse people like me of being. The failure of finding that discussion, which lasted multiple pages, making it pretty hard to miss is entirely on you, and is attributable to you either being lazy, or simply choosing not to read posts that are inconvenient to your grossly short-sighted opinions.

Lastly, the reason I "pinball" -- read: address the FULL NATURE of, as well as all the different aspects of the topic being discussed, is because that's how you have a discussion. You do this weird thing where you continually try to reduce the argument down to a single point, then when that fails, you look for another angle, each one becoming less and less sophisticated as the argument continues.

Suffice to say your questions have been answered, your very weak arguments have been debunked, and you've done nothing except oust yourself as little more than a goal post shifter.

Yes the paragraph buried under other paragraphs of paragraphs from those other two berating and belittling people left and right.
Very obvious to find them; Especially as this post reaches almost 200 comments...

Also what "Argument" do you mean? Your argument or mine?
Because if your issue is with me asking one single question over and over of "Hey there's a bunch of people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on eachother, how are you meant to learn anything from this"
Well, you never actually answered this- kind of just "Shifted" points on the devs morality untill i'm meant to refute/justify your argument against them because i'm "cherry picking"

Now if it's the whole "Left game from one line thing" well i'm asking you for clarity aren't i?
Not sure what your trying to "argue" here is all if it's just your own experiences.

[Catastrophucked]

Messaggio originale di CyanCatMan:

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

I gave plenty of information in the earlier pages to a guy named startrekmike. I broke down my entire philosophy behind why I find woke content to be disgusting, insulting, and low-key 10x more racist than anything you leftist nutjobs could ever accuse people like me of being. The failure of finding that discussion, which lasted multiple pages, making it pretty hard to miss is entirely on you, and is attributable to you either being lazy, or simply choosing not to read posts that are inconvenient to your grossly short-sighted opinions.

Lastly, the reason I "pinball" -- read: address the FULL NATURE of, as well as all the different aspects of the topic being discussed, is because that's how you have a discussion. You do this weird thing where you continually try to reduce the argument down to a single point, then when that fails, you look for another angle, each one becoming less and less sophisticated as the argument continues.

Suffice to say your questions have been answered, your very weak arguments have been debunked, and you've done nothing except oust yourself as little more than a goal post shifter.

Yes the paragraph buried under other paragraphs of paragraphs from those other two berating and belittling people left and right.
Very obvious to find them; Especially as this post reaches almost 200 comments...

Also what "Argument" do you mean? Your argument or mine?
Because if your issue is with me asking one single question over and over of "Hey there's a bunch of people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on eachother, how are you meant to learn anything from this"
Well, you never actually answered this- kind of just "Shifted" points on the devs morality untill i'm meant to refute/justify your argument against them because i'm "cherry picking"

Now if it's the whole "Left game from one line thing" well i'm asking you for clarity aren't i?
Not sure what your trying to "argue" here is all if it's just your own experiences.

It ain't hard to find, pal. Either way, you lost this round, but I'll help you out and by providing you with a term you can go look up. Actually, I'll give you two: one is the name of a company, and the other is a business term. Sweet Baby Inc and ESG.

[CyanCatMan]

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

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It ain't hard to find, pal. Either way, you lost this round, but I'll help you out and by providing you with a term you can go look up. Actually, I'll give you two: one is the name of a company, and the other is a business term. Sweet Baby Inc and ESG.

Oh are we doing this again?
The whole ignoring thing and just data dumping?

[Catastrophucked]

Messaggio originale di CyanCatMan:

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

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It ain't hard to find, pal. Either way, you lost this round, but I'll help you out and by providing you with a term you can go look up. Actually, I'll give you two: one is the name of a company, and the other is a business term. Sweet Baby Inc and ESG.

Oh are we doing this again?
The whole ignoring thing and just data dumping?

You are simply not worthy of the time it would take to explain what those things are.

[CyanCatMan]

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

You are simply not worthy of the time it would take to explain what those things are.

Alright cool so you are just ignoring your faults and my inquires.
Well i guess good luck with your echo chamber if your really running out of things to list off and "refute"

[Catastrophucked]

Messaggio originale di CyanCatMan:

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

You are simply not worthy of the time it would take to explain what those things are.

Alright cool so you are just ignoring your faults and my inquires.
Well i guess good luck with your echo chamber if your really running out of things to list off and "refute"

No, I'm just refusing to indulge with someone who is going to misconstrue my posts, play reductionist games, and then proceed to dance around the points I make, and that someone is you. Also, the only echo chamber is the one that exists inside your head.

[CyanCatMan]

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

No, I'm just refusing to indulge with someone who is going to misconstrue my posts, play reductionist games, and then proceed to dance around the points I make, and that someone is you. Also, the only echo chamber is the one that exists inside your head.

What's to be misconstruded?
You show yourself as being the superior in every single argument when you just ignore everyone and their arguments to push your own narrative.

[Catastrophucked]

Messaggio originale di CyanCatMan:

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

No, I'm just refusing to indulge with someone who is going to misconstrue my posts, play reductionist games, and then proceed to dance around the points I make, and that someone is you. Also, the only echo chamber is the one that exists inside your head.

What's to be misconstruded?
You show yourself as being the superior in every single argument when you just ignore everyone and their arguments to push your own narrative.

If I have ignored "everyone", then clearly you must have read the entirety of my involvement in this thread, otherwise you wouldn't have knowledge of such "ignoring of everyone". So, remind me again, why EXACTLY I need to go back and fetch my original post? You're a bad faith debater.

[CyanCatMan]

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

If I have ignored "everyone", then clearly you must have read the entirety of my involvement in this thread, otherwise you wouldn't have knowledge of such "ignoring of everyone". So, remind me again, why EXACTLY I need to go back and fetch my original post? You're a bad faith debater.

This comment right here that's what i mean.
I never mentioned to fetch any of your past comments, that was you- after i commented for clarification as to why you stopped playing.

Is the context there? Yes.
But you fail to acknowledge the fact there's almost 200 comments on this comment chain.
And now your pushing against me further by insuating i "clearly - read" every single post you've made, all despite my previous claims.

This is of course all in defense of you and only your character.
And for the sake of that argument i again ask - "What's the main argument" since there's a few.
Starting from:
I have asked for clarification on your experience with the game / "Why did you stop"
Followed by "How would you fix this without out right witchhunting people"
(The narrative side, also you did not answer this)

After having to clarify myself: You say you already answered my argument to which i ask "What argument do you mean" especially since we had previous discussions before this.
(You still are not clarifying so here we are)

And now i'm outright accusing you of ignoring people or at least namely me and their arguments as you continuously dump excess data that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. I.E- company's and their jargon.

Hope you have a good day, if you don't respond.

[Catastrophucked]

Messaggio originale di CyanCatMan:

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

If I have ignored "everyone", then clearly you must have read the entirety of my involvement in this thread, otherwise you wouldn't have knowledge of such "ignoring of everyone". So, remind me again, why EXACTLY I need to go back and fetch my original post? You're a bad faith debater.

This comment right here that's what i mean.
I never mentioned to fetch any of your past comments, that was you- after i commented for clarification as to why you stopped playing.

Is the context there? Yes.
But you fail to acknowledge the fact there's almost 200 comments on this comment chain.
And now your pushing against me further by insuating i "clearly - read" every single post you've made, all despite my previous claims.

This is of course all in defense of you and only your character.
And for the sake of that argument i again ask - "What's the main argument" since there's a few.
Starting from:
I have asked for clarification on your experience with the game / "Why did you stop"
Followed by "How would you fix this without out right witchhunting people"
(The narrative side, also you did not answer this)

After having to clarify myself: You say you already answered my argument to which i ask "What argument do you mean" especially since we had previous discussions before this.
(You still are not clarifying so here we are)

And now i'm outright accusing you of ignoring people or at least namely me and their arguments as you continuously dump excess data that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. I.E- company's and their jargon.

Hope you have a good day, if you don't respond.

Listing off all the things you hallucinated into existence isn't going to change anything.

[CyanCatMan]

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

Listing off all the things you hallucinated into existence isn't going to change anything.

Come on now really?
Your gonna use the "You can/must've read all my words" argument against me.
But you can't see what's literally on this page of what we've tried discussing?
I'm starting to think you really are the one hallucinating here with that high horse.

[Catastrophucked]

Messaggio originale di CyanCatMan:

Messaggio originale di Catastrophucked:

Listing off all the things you hallucinated into existence isn't going to change anything.

Come on now really?
Your gonna use the "You can/must've read all my words" argument against me.
But you can't see what's literally on this page of what we've tried discussing?
I'm starting to think you really are the one hallucinating here with that high horse.

With all the time you've spent here whining, you could have scrolled through a few pages and easily found where my arguments started. You're lazy, and I am not going to fetch anything for you, because I'm not willing to spend my time grabbing something for a person I think is arguing in bad faith.

I have literally done the very thing that I am demanding of you in other threads, so this is far from even a hypocritical demand.