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sblantipodi Oct 22, 2016 @ 11:03am
[SPOILERS] Please explain me the ending.
Can you elaborate the ending please?
Does Jack save beth? I don't understood how this game finishes.

Can you explain me it?
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markoh00 Oct 22, 2016 @ 11:16am 
The ending is a bit open for interpretation but since the game states again and again that you cannot change things in the present because you changed things in the past most are thinking that Jack only postponed the end of time. If Beth will be saved one day by Jack is not made clear in the game it's only made clear that it is his goal to come back and save her. However maybe THAT will be what will lead to the end of time. Everything you have done and will do is part of the actual timeline no matter what - that is the philosophy of time travel in this game. So in the end it's quite sure that even though he might go back he will not be able to save her because she will have to die - it already happened.
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Ironix8148 Oct 22, 2016 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by sblantipodi:
[ SPOILERS ] Please explain me the ending.
Can you elaborate the ending please?
I don't understood how this game finishes.

Can you explain me it?

Originally posted by markoh00:
The ending is a bit open for interpretation but since the game states again and again that you cannot change things in the present because you changed things in the past most are thinking that Jack only postponed the end of time. If Beth will be saved one day by Jack is not made clear in the game it's only made clear that it is his goal to come back and save her. However maybe THAT will be what will lead to the end of time. Everything you have done and will do is part of the actual timeline no matter what - that is the philosophy of time travel in this game. So in the end it's quite sure that even though he might go back he will not be able to save her because she will have to die - it already happened.


"There were brief moments of awareness in this endless nightmare - different versions of certain key moments in my life that I found myself reliving again and again."
Last edited by Ironix8148; Oct 22, 2016 @ 1:19pm
Michael Nov 8, 2016 @ 12:03am 
One thing is doesn't explain is: Why he's wasting time talking to the girl from Monarch because he's clearly not telling her everything and leaving it open ended for a QB2 even more so than Alan Wake did. The story is also a lot less complete than Alan Wake, Alan knew and understood that freeing everyone including Alice would come at a great cost to himself, Jack is not there yet and still has some fight left in him. The one thing about the ground zero area in the game is that everything in it is very fluid, his brother turned and looked at him when Jack called Will's name. Since Beth died there I'm certain he could bring her back to life.

One thing the bothers me about this whole end of time, Wouldn't everything just cease to exist at that point in time? So I don't see how Anyone could return from that point in time after being there even if you are from the past.

FYI you don't need spoilers tags in your posts if the subject of the thread has clearly been marked.
markoh00 Nov 12, 2016 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by Michael:
. Since Beth died there I'm certain he could bring her back to life.

Since Beth died he will never be able to change this because it already happened. You cannot undo anything - that is the whole premise of the game.

Originally posted by Michael:
One thing the bothers me about this whole end of time, Wouldn't everything just cease to exist at that point in time? So I don't see how Anyone could return from that point in time after being there even if you are from the past.

End of time is only meant as "end of movement" and it only affects normal people. But as you know everybody using the time machine earned the ability to move even IF time stands still so according to their logic everyone using a timemachine will be able to arrive at the end of time and come back.
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Michael Nov 12, 2016 @ 10:26pm 
Originally posted by markoh00:
Since Beth died he will never be able to change this because it already happened. You cannot undo anything - that is the whole premise of the game.

They also made it look like William died, Jack did go back in time and "correct" that. Remember Paul went back in time and created Monarch thus changing the past. Jack and Paul appear to be the exception to this rule.


Originally posted by markoh00:
End of time is only meant as "end of movement" and it only affects normal people. But as you know everybody using the time machine earned the ability to move even IF time stands still so according to their logic everyone using a timemachine will be able to arrive at the end of time and come back.

Is that what it means? I can't agree with that statement because they didn't actually show what the player what the end of time is...
markoh00 Nov 13, 2016 @ 1:47am 
Originally posted by Michael:
They also made it look like William died, Jack did go back in time and "correct" that. Remember Paul went back in time and created Monarch thus changing the past. Jack and Paul appear to be the exception to this rule.

Not true. The only reason Jack could save William, is that it never was clear that he acually died. And Monarch also was there in the beginning of the game because it was always anticipated that Paul will go back into the past (just read the students chart to see that everything happened "before" the time travel experiment). All things that will happen due to time travelling in the past are already part of the present. There is no exception.

Originally posted by Michael:
Is that what it means? I can't agree with that statement because they didn't actually show what the player what the end of time is...

No, they did not but they stated clearly that you may live normally in an ark using special time-power while around you everything is frozen. They made the ark to survive the end of time and to fix it. If end of time would mean something more drastic Paul would never come up with the idea of the ark.
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Michael Nov 13, 2016 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by markoh00:
Not true. The only reason Jack could save William, is that it never was clear that he acually died. And Monarch also was there in the beginning of the game because it was always anticipated that Paul will go back into the past (just read the students chart to see that everything happened "before" the time travel experiment). All things that will happen due to time travelling in the past are already part of the present. There is no exception.

That timeline is no longer valid because the time fracture was started earlier than the timeline Paul had written down and the lifeboat protocol was also initiated much later.

Originally posted by markoh00:
No, they did not but they stated clearly that you may live normally in an ark using special time-power while around you everything is frozen. They made the ark to survive the end of time and to fix it. If end of time would mean something more drastic Paul would never come up with the idea of the ark.

So with everything frozen in time like it was in the present, What made the Future so grim? If something is stuck in time it would not age.
Napper Nov 13, 2016 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by Michael:
That timeline is no longer valid because the time fracture was started earlier than the timeline Paul had written down and the lifeboat protocol was also initiated much later.

There is no alternate timelines in this story. They clearly state the way time travel works in this story is based on the Novikov self-consistency principle (William even mentions it in act 5). The fracture always began on Oct 8th. Paul knew the fracture would get worse and cause the end of time in 2020. However what he didnt know was that the end of time was supposed to be much sooner than that. As evidence by the fractures getting much worse sooner than he expected. But the reason it didnt occur sooner was because William and Jack activated the countermeasure in 2016. But the end of time is still going to occur in 2020. Possibly because of Jack trying to go back and save Beth or something along those lines. At the end of the game, jack sees a vision of himself in the time machine seeing the end of time. So its open for a sequal.
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Michael Nov 13, 2016 @ 10:22pm 
Originally posted by Napper:
Originally posted by Michael:
That timeline is no longer valid because the time fracture was started earlier than the timeline Paul had written down and the lifeboat protocol was also initiated much later.

There is no alternate timelines in this story. They clearly state the way time travel works in this story is based on the Novikov self-consistency principle (William even mentions it in act 5). The fracture always began on Oct 8th. Paul knew the fracture would get worse and cause the end of time in 2020. However what he didnt know was that the end of time was supposed to be much sooner than that. As evidence by the fractures getting much worse sooner than he expected. But the reason it didnt occur sooner was because William and Jack activated the countermeasure in 2016. But the end of time is still going to occur in 2020. Possibly because of Jack trying to go back and save Beth or something along those lines. At the end of the game, jack sees a vision of himself in the time machine seeing the end of time. So its open for a sequal.


The dates posted on the whiteboards in Paul's office were different for the lifeboat and the fracture from what was the current timeline from my recallection implying that it was all changable.
Napper Nov 13, 2016 @ 11:07pm 
Originally posted by Michael:
Originally posted by Napper:

There is no alternate timelines in this story. They clearly state the way time travel works in this story is based on the Novikov self-consistency principle (William even mentions it in act 5). The fracture always began on Oct 8th. Paul knew the fracture would get worse and cause the end of time in 2020. However what he didnt know was that the end of time was supposed to be much sooner than that. As evidence by the fractures getting much worse sooner than he expected. But the reason it didnt occur sooner was because William and Jack activated the countermeasure in 2016. But the end of time is still going to occur in 2020. Possibly because of Jack trying to go back and save Beth or something along those lines. At the end of the game, jack sees a vision of himself in the time machine seeing the end of time. So its open for a sequal.


The dates posted on the whiteboards in Paul's office were different for the lifeboat and the fracture from what was the current timeline from my recallection implying that it was all changable.

No they weren't. Take a look at the second screenshot here. Oct 8 is the fracture.

https://m.imgur.com/a/zYydz#dfIUF9Q

Never mind the red circles. I was using this picture to ask Mikko Rautalahti (the narrative lead for Quantum Break) a question about the plot on the Remedy fourms.

Michael Nov 13, 2016 @ 11:15pm 
Originally posted by Napper:
Originally posted by Michael:


The dates posted on the whiteboards in Paul's office were different for the lifeboat and the fracture from what was the current timeline from my recallection implying that it was all changable.

No they weren't. Take a look at the second screenshot here. Oct 8 is the fracture.

https://m.imgur.com/a/zYydz#dfIUF9Q

Never mind the red circles. I was using this picture to ask Mikko Rautalahti (the narrative lead for Quantum Break) a question about the plot on the Remedy fourms.

Thank you for this.
Can you take more pictures and show all the boards? Like the lifeboat activation.
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markoh00 Nov 14, 2016 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by Michael:
Originally posted by Napper:

No they weren't. Take a look at the second screenshot here. Oct 8 is the fracture.

https://m.imgur.com/a/zYydz#dfIUF9Q

Never mind the red circles. I was using this picture to ask Mikko Rautalahti (the narrative lead for Quantum Break) a question about the plot on the Remedy fourms.

Thank you for this.
Can you take more pictures and show all the boards? Like the lifeboat activation.

The only thing that changed is that according to the anomalies the end of time SEEMED to arrive earlier than Paul said. Emphasis on "SEEM". It may as well be that all the things William did or will do will lead to the end of time arriving the moment Paul already has experienced it. It is like Napper stated: All things happened in the past AND THE THINGS THAT WIL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE are already part of the present. There is no alternate timeline - at least not according to this game. Remember how Will noticed in the beginning that the lights went out before entering the cafeteria. He only experienced these events because in the end he will travel to the past causing those events himself.
curry124242 Nov 15, 2016 @ 1:49am 
So Paul saw the end of time in 2020 because C.F.R must be activated in 2016 and postpone the end of time to 2020?




Metradeil Nov 15, 2016 @ 8:50am 
There is a note just befor room with CFR. Writer is obv Martin Hatch. In this note he explains that he was a shifter and almost lost hes mind. But End Of Time helps him to rethink whole the world and he became godlike. No mortal now cant understand hes plans and ambitions. And i guess Jack goes the same way. Shifter => Overpowered.
Napper Nov 15, 2016 @ 10:58am 
There is actually a very important Document that gives hints to Jack and Paul's ultimate fate.

http://quantumbreak.wikia.com/wiki/Dream_Journal_5

Remember that Paul's dreams and visions are slight premonitions of future events. In the dream Jack, himself and Dr Kim are all shifters. He even mentions lashing out at himself. This eludes to the end of time. Whereby Paul would be one of the very shifters that is chasing himself when he is sent to the End of Time.

I feel Remedy missed a great opportunity in letting us play as Paul Serene at the end of time. The very concept that the shifters he was trying to avoid at the end of time comprised of Jack, Dr Kim and even himself is a cool and grim prospect.

Its also why I fear we wont ever see a sequel to Quantum Break. Namely because it must be hard to get some of the actors back. But mostly because the ending cements the idea that there is no way the End of Time can be avoided.
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