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Not exactly the best examples. Like Tidus jumping out of the water after the credits in FFX? Not very conclusion-like.
Remedy's other game, Alan Wake, hadd a similar ending to this one, with the "It's not a lake, it's an ocean", so if you have followed their games it would be sort of expected. To each his own though. Remedy is currently working on two "new" projects, one being a new IP, a multiplayer game if I'm not mistaken (P7 or something?), and one undisclosed title. You never know what might come out of the woodwork there.
But it ends very very openly... Anythink can happen and it does hint to sequel.. Cmon, last damn frame was exactly the same as every time in the game when there was that junction where you choose future.. So at this stage - it just seems it was purpousely made as there would be sequel.
Well, the fun fact is that you get to choose the outcome of these junctions as Paul (not Jack) and those are the only moments that you actually play him. Throughout the game there is disscusion wheter or not it's possible to change the future. And this implies that Paul had that power, but was too terrified by the End of Time (btw I'm really disappointed we didn't get to see it). Whereas the ending suggests that in a possible sequel we get to choose as Jack.
As far as I can see, as according to the story, although repeatedly ignored by Joyce, time can't be changed. It's a loop. With Jack always "seeing" is brother die and leading him down the path to rescue said brother, which inadvertanly causes that loop to reoccur.
It's speculated that the End hadn't occurred (it isn't what we stop in the game). The End that Serene planned for was still far in the future, as shown by his white boards and his confusion over why it is happening sooner than he anticipated. It leads us to believe said end is still in the works (a good premise for a sequel).
So in other words, the timeline Paul jumped forward to, in which he saw "The End" is one in which Jack stopped a Chronon-sick Serene in anyway, and thus the same type of timeline in which we find our Jack, which leads again to the conclusion of a loop and the fact that time is still cemented down a line, with the illusion of free will on both the player and the characters.
The End of Time is still coming and Hatch is still on the way to getting his way unless another game is made where we stop him either from within Monarch or against it.
I found Hatch a fascinating villain and would love to see some coverage of his back story i.e. when he finds the natural time machine, becomes a shifter and controls his powers. It would make a great prequel short movie.
Exactly. We didn't manage to save the world and stop The End of Time, we merely managed to delay it until 2021 - as Paul Serene (who was right all along) had always claimed. Since both Paul and Beth (as well as Hatch and perhaps others) had already seen and lived through The End of Time, it meant that it had already happened and thus could not be avoided. But it could be unravelled, by scientists in the Lifeboat. While taking extreme measures that would always find opposition, Paul Serene's path was the only viable option. But Jack, Beth, William (and, I assume, most players) refused to accept the inevitability of the situation and keept fighting to change what cannot be changed, what has already happened.
Many time throughout the game, we are shown that the past cannot be undone. It's *the* major theme throughout the game. Yet we still attempt to do so, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. Even after "saving the world", when delaying The End of Time in 2016 and telling Will that Paul was "wrong about everything", Will, who is probably the one character in the game (besides Hatch) with the best understanding of time travel, replies "Was he?". Because Will now begins to realize how it's all connected.
Hatch, as the only character we know for sure (Ogawa's exact involvement in Hatch's plans is unknown - she may or may not be a Shifter like him) actually wanted The End of Time to happen. And as such, knowing that the only real threat to his plans was Paul's Lifeboat Protocol, he did everything in his power to sabotage Paul. In the epilogue, we see Hatch attempt to recruit Jack - likely because he needs Jack, who's obsession to save Beth will make him reckless, to cause the actual End of Time in 2021.