Stronghold Kingdoms

Stronghold Kingdoms

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These discussion topics worry me.
I have been playing this game for slightly less than a month now. At first, it seemed like a good game, and I was enjoying it, but now it's begun to severely slow down in many ways that I don't understand, and I've been driven to come here in order to see just what's going on. What I'm seeing is not encouraging.

A lot of the people who have played this say it's a terrible "pay to win" kind of thing... and my play experience is making me think this is true. I find myself unable to research the skills I need in order to advance myself any further, yet unable to complete quests or engage in any kind of combat in order to increase my level. I don't have cards to use, and though I've spent money, it was only to open up the queues for building and research... neither of which I can do anymore. I'm honestly about to report this game as some kind of scam, as it has narrowed down to my having to pay my way to the next level in both of the towns I have going.

Is the game really this bad? Are you supposed to be able to get overrun so easily? Are so few people playing it?

For example. My first town is up pretty high; many resource and food buildings in place. I have some scouts, and... that's about it. I can't defeat even wolves in a fight, and I can't command large enough forces to really start a fight in the first place. My castle is still wood; enemies just walk right through it, basically. The town is almost pointless now, as all that is happening is people are working... for no obvious reason. I'm not gaining resources, or gold, or anything.

My second town is worse. I thought I would start a new one in order to use what I had learned from the first one to make a better town. Instead my town is now in the influence range of no less than 7 wolf lairs, an enemy base camp, two AI towers and more. And my parish has disease going on, with the owner apparently not around to do anything about it.

What's going on?
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Silvermane Sep 8, 2013 @ 10:59am 
Since noone has answered this, I'll take a shot.

I'm a commoner with one village. I researched one of everything, enough weapon making to get fletching, 6 fortification to get stone gatehouse, and 4 defenses. That isn't the best research order, but focusing on fortification and defenses and archers is important to defending your keep.

I have 7 woodcutters, 6 quarries, 2 hovels, 2 flower gardens, 6 orchards, 5 dairy frams, an inn and a brewery. I need a bit more food and ale but am saving up for a fletcher instead so I can get archers to defend my keep.

Your castle should have been stone a long time ago. First, I built a wood wall 1 thick around my keep and a wood gatehouse. Then I put 4 lookout towers in the corners and started building stone walls outside the wooden ones. Once I have 2 stone walls on the outside, I'll replace the wood wall with stone so it's 3 thick.

I've been able to survive all AI attacks so far. My main interaction is sending out scouts.

If you don't want to pay-baby-pay, $$$, cha-ching, cha-ching; then you might be able to befriend someone powerful who will protect you.

I haven't paid and have no illusions about how this game will end for me.

When your villages are wiped out, I think you keep your rank, gold, research, and get a new village so you can start over.

There was a facebook game like this that was a little better because you could protect your resources and they could't trash your village let alone conquer it.
what world are you in? i'm in world one and will help you with what you need to survive. Crown Prince 14 villages running 2 parishes currently
Traidor Sep 8, 2013 @ 11:28pm 
Ok, it's somewhat true. This game does have a built in rl monetary system but it's not pay to win, it's pay to grow. This is a very important as you can be in on the winning without investing much in the game besides your time but the play style for free to player players differs from "carders" or paying players.

First off as a free to play player you need to focus on your economy, forget the military aspect of the game with the exception of building and fortifying a castle. Since you will not be using cards to boost your production you will need to use research. Max at least 3 types of food initial research and move on from there, max both wood and stone techs, and most importantly, max tools.

You see what you are doing here is creating a center of industry in your village and it will be quite self reliant. For honor generation you need to make sure your popularity is high as possible. This means feeding all food types if possible, max ale rations, all entertainment buildings and deco buildings. You also need to research arts research whenever it unlocks in the research tree.

Banquets can also be used to boost your advancement in rank, but can be a hassle because they require different village types for all the different goods. For now ignore the quests, the quests cater to a "carder" player build, it wants you to focus mainly on army and scouts.

One very important thing to remember is that the game slows down after the initial two weeks, you will make new ranks slower, learn techs slower, build buildings in your established villages slower. This is not a mistake, the fast pace draws players in but it is false, while you may make the first 50% of overall ranks in the first month the remainder will take you 3/4 of a year to attain.

This is an epic paced game, don't get discouraged, if epic pacing isn't your thing then go play a FPS. I'm sorry but in SHK things take time.... especially for a "non carder". No sorry, buying premium tokens don't make you a carder.

I too am on world one, I purchased crowns twice to unlock my 14 free cards per week. I have 14 villages, 6-7 parishes, and a county.

Remember, easy as it is, don't blame others for your shortcomings. If you are not good at the game it's not the fault of the game company.

Just stick with it, no, you won't be leading the head house (at least not for a year or so) as a lowbie low investment player. That is not a problem in this game, I'd much rather be left out of the politics of the officers/generals in a faction. I've been there and it takes away the time you have to actually play the game. All of a sudden you are spending 2 hours every day just sending mails to other players and brokering deals for your faction/house. The politicians in this game do not have much time to actually play it.

Hope this helps
HowlingSpirit Sep 9, 2013 @ 8:17pm 
No this game is pay to win, even if you don't spend money once you've wasted several months of your life building your pointless villages; you still are no match for the people who are ahead of you and the people who waste money on this pathetic game.

My advice, go pay for a game like total war, age of empires, or starcraft, you'll save money and time and have more fun playing those titles that dont drain your wallet and have mods to keep you entertained.

Even stronghold crusader would be a better game than kingdoms, I wasted 150 hours on this game and don't plan on wasting anymore. I can't believe these people sleep at night having this abomination playable.

Not to mention the staff is a bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and you can't trade with people in the same ip as you, so no roommates can play. Many more faults but if you're not yet convinced this game sucks well than go ahead and play it.
Gargoyle Girl Sep 10, 2013 @ 10:21pm 
I'm honestly trying to get a feel for the game itself, and honestly... things have already taken a turn for the worse.

My parish is owned by someone who is never online. It, and all the parishes around my little village have the black plague, with no one seeming to care much about it. I'm currently getting a -30 to happiness in my village because no one is trying to control the rampant disease going around.

I'm in world one right now as well, in a place called Cabragh. According to Hamaza, I've already failed at building my town, so there's that. And his reply also gives me that "don't *really* expect any help from anyone* feeling, so I'm just hoping that the advice he gave here can be applied somehow.

I've been doing quests, and maxed out my scouts horsemanship from te beginning; being able to gather resources has been very helpful actually in the progression of my town. Unfortunately, it looks as if the plague is going to end things for me before I get to play much longer...

I'm honestly not interested in becoming the top anything. I just want to get to a point where my village is self-sufficient, my castle can handle assaults, and I can explore the world and interact with other players. Sadly, most everyone is offline when I'm online, and the world is getting kinda harsh. There's some red faction invading my parish, and the parish owner suddenly is blue, so it guarantees attacks are incoming.

Omega, I admit this game can make you a little crazy. But it seems to have some fun aspects to it so far for me. I'm hoping to find the right path to getting over this hump, but maybe not. If i fail, I'll drop the game. But for the moment, I want to at least *try* to save what I've built. Don't be so bitter about it, and enjoy the games you're playing now. Thanks for the warning though.
Gargoyle Girl Sep 10, 2013 @ 10:32pm 
Originally posted by Hamaza the Radical Extremist:
Ok, it's somewhat true. This game does have a built in rl monetary system but it's not pay to win, it's pay to grow.

This is an epic paced game, don't get discouraged, if epic pacing isn't your thing then go play a FPS. I'm sorry but in SHK things take time.... especially for a "non carder". No sorry, buying premium tokens don't make you a carder.

Remember, easy as it is, don't blame others for your shortcomings. If you are not good at the game it's not the fault of the game company.

Hope this helps

First, I actually bought some crowns myself, and not just for a premium token. :P I'm not *that* simple when it comes to these types of games. If I keep playing, I'll probably buy tokens regularly though; they just make things easier. Personally, I think you should be able to do more than one thing at a time ANYWAY... but that's just me. Maybe.

Second, I don't mind how long the game takes, as long as I'm able to take an active role in my town and my environment. If I'm going to play this game, I need to be able to PLAY it. Not just log in once a week to see how many times I got attacked or if my town has vanished from the world.

As I said in the above post, my town is surrounded by plague, and I have no monks to try to start controlling it, nor cards to cancel it out or... whatever you need in this case. The world chat is so empty it might as well not exist, and I watched monks wander past to the far side of England, ignoring the disease, while in another spot, a major battle involving at least 12 armies raged... right next to a parish heavy with disease. I can't understand people's priorities. The disease is everywhere and even the people running the parishes are too busy to stop it.

If my being unable to stop massive, out of control plagues and wild melees is my having "shortcomings", then I have to agree with Omega. This game is kinda broken, and should be overhauled so I *can* do something about things. As it stands, the only ones who can do anything are the parish holders, and... what can I do if they don't care?
xycotta Sep 11, 2013 @ 12:00am 
If there is a big war nearby, the monkers are likely under orders to conserve points for ID
Skitzo Sam Sep 11, 2013 @ 12:39pm 
Top tip for the day, dont play Stronghold Kingdoms. I can spend all day explaining why from cheaters, multi accounters, p2w fanboys, farmers and moderators with bad attitudes and general idiots that will do everything they can to p**s you off.

Dont for a second belive that you cant match the p2w guys in terms of strength you can do everything they can your just limited to natural gain instead of being able to take the shorter route and card.

Seriously though people need to be turned away from this game. Im not a hater ive been playing it for a 2 1/2 years its my honest opinion.
Belnick Sep 11, 2013 @ 6:12pm 
well, 16hours for one building and 7 hours to research is a bit much :P
chris.bonnici Sep 12, 2013 @ 7:49am 
al madonna
xycotta Sep 12, 2013 @ 12:58pm 
ppbtt...16 hours ...try rebuilding a maxed castle from scratch without cards
D.Є.$ Sep 12, 2013 @ 8:27pm 
I played this game for a while now and has never use any cash on it. When im up against players who does use cash i still beat them with no problems or whatsoever. So maybe its just you because from what i see everything is equal out no play to win.
ShirtlessGoldblum Sep 13, 2013 @ 1:46am 
Originally posted by xycotta:
ppbtt...16 hours ...try rebuilding a maxed castle from scratch without cards

30 days....
Talismonger Sep 13, 2013 @ 8:05am 
Good Day,

I disagree with the pay to win characterization. I'm top 150 in my world, I don't pay for cards or play advantages. My forces can deal with almost any threat, and I'm supporting a major war effort as well as keeping my parishes clean.

First point - it is a slow game, period. That is just part of its character. If you want something faster paced, MOBA or RTS can meet that need.

Second point - the OP stated that his castle was still wood. S/he is right that anything can walk through it. I leave my castles empty until I have some stone fortification and gate houses to support a minimum of 70 troops before I fill towers (stone towers) with archers. Wood defenses are basically worthless.

Third point - the level of bandit camps & wolves is based on the average level of player in the parish. Consequently, if you have one city in a parish with a number of high ranking players, all the AI will be ridiculously difficult. Relocate somewhere that has less high level player cities.

Fourth point - Towns have limited ability to hold resources. People may appear to be working even if they have nowhere to put their goods (weapon makers only work if there is storage space). You have to research to improve your storage. Basic storage will not take you very far into the game.

Fifth point - You are always weaker than a group of other similar people. If you tick of a group, they can rip you apart if they want to. Just like life, don't pick a fight with half a dozen guys at once, unless you have half a dozen friend to back you up. I've always found that part realistic.

Be Well,
--Talismonger
mudy45 Sep 13, 2013 @ 10:18am 
This game requires lots of time for a long period, unless your daddy invent microsoft then you can buy premium and have vacation option. So if you dont enjoy it, stop playing.

You can play the game at the max by spending at least USD 10 in two crown purchase. Then potentially you might get 14 cards a week, thats 2 card per day, which means a steady stream of random cards. Roughly, you can change 5 unwanted cards to 1 you need. You will also get more cards by doing ingame quest. I think it is reasonable cost for FF to run the server (but they need to make the queu as non premium to add more player).

I believe that you can play this game either with or without paying by:
- Choosing the right county for your village. Dont start at a war county, look for a peacefull one.
- Understanding the right build/research order (read guide or ask a pro). If you cant get Alderman (or perhaps slightly lower) by the time of the protected peace time, you simply picks the wrong build order.
- Spending lots of time in the first several weeks.
- Having a good comunication skill.

If you are a peace loving cat lovers, be a farmer, or a monker, or an arm supplier.

This is a social game. If you dont want to communicate with people, dont play this game. Make friend with high level player, look for helpfull faction with beginner members, ask for help, ask for tips, dont challange someone beyond your league, and support others.

Or even better: make friend on steam before picking a county, then join the county where your friends are.

I rise to Baron with 3 villages (looking for the 4th now), in less than 1 month.
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